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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThese are not rallies. These are militia parades. They are NOT caravans. They are truck battalions.
Do not use right wing euphemisms for what is clearly troop rallying.
The armed are threatening death. Not chest beating.
Paint ballers mark their marks. Photograph their targets.
The most threatening militia know police have their backs. Militia have uniformed backup.
The constant drumbeat of right-wing conspiracy theories and hateful political rhetoric has found its way into a sizable portion of the U.S. militarys rank and file.
We need to see that any coming skirmishes are versions of 'The Apprentice,' when you consider that Trump sees current generals as weak and replaceable. Why not with civil war winners.
None of this makes sense. Trump is everything the U.S. military should despise: a draft dodger, adulterer, flabby, lazy, unread, a tabloid joke for decades, and TV reality show star. During the 2016 campaign, Trump sought to brandish his non-existent national security chops by insulting Barack Obamas generals. I know more about ISIS than the generals do. The generals have been reduced to rubble. They have been reduced to a point where its embarrassing for our country. He hinted that as president, he would fire them. Theyd probably be different generals, he said at NBCs pre-election Commander-in-Chief Forum....
... reputational carnage of highly decorated American generals associated with Trump continued as H.R. McMaster, John Kelly, and James Mattis all tried to bring coherence to Trumps policies. Instead they were subjected to his tantrums and humiliation, and ultimately left the administration. Never had access to decades of military and national security experience been so squandered and abused by an American president.
... The extent of the visceral hatred much of the military feels for Democrats, the deep state and the fake news media is a new phenomenon. The belief that there is indeed a coup being orchestrated against President Trump is a weapon Trump has in his arsenal, depending how far down the road to authoritarianism he decides to go. But Trump would need to deeply fracture the military first, and that is something to watch for. Most members of the armed forces are honorable, patriotic Americans who would never take part in such a scheme, despite their support for Trump. But a significant portion just might.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/if-trumps-rage-brings-civil-war-where-will-the-military-stand
When we really see the positioning going on, we're seeing more than threats to non-whites and liberals. We're seeing a military watching which battalions to draw from. Which to ally with. If Germany can see the terrain of election rigging, so should we.
Know the relative power terrain and positions.
See our relative strengths, weakness, and prepare accordingly.
The last thing we should be seeing is "caravans."
The first thing we should be seeing is who orchestrates the positioning, participants and outcomes.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)ancianita
(36,136 posts)This situation isn't clownery.
Helter Skelter was some small biker violence. I'm talking organized preparation for mowing down whoever is perceived as "weak" by fascist warriors.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)He promoted small scale attacks that were meant to trigger a much larger response. Look around, this is what that psychotic madman hoped his little murders would start, violence in the streets.
I'm not jokey. Very serious.
DBoon
(22,397 posts)ancianita
(36,136 posts)Who runs this occupation. We have to learn names of the planners and executors.
malaise
(269,158 posts)in 2018 - they were coming in Caravans but you are correct - they are a Donald Trump militia.
Who is going to arrest this monster? Why is the media pretending this is normal?
ancianita
(36,136 posts)from the throngs who came here for a new life.
Media are not seeing clearly. They will only see a horse race until the guns come out in an armed version of the Battle in Seattle.
No one will arrest this monster. This is his military audition. The red army faction of the U.S. military is watching an audition. No more volunteer army to train. They want to recruit civilians with warrior experience.
This WH occupant is allowing them who to replace his driven-out generals and constitutional 'white' troops with 'red' fascist troops.
The coup we're seeing attempted has clear players.
malaise
(269,158 posts)THIS
MFM008
(19,818 posts)Will stop me from voting against him.
Nothing.
pwb
(11,290 posts)For future reference if needed.
ancianita
(36,136 posts)LOVE this!
One can text them to the nearest FBI, RMV, sheriffs or even SPLC offices.
Even if not all the drivers are the owners, and if the plates don't match the truck owners, the owners still matter.
And the broader network of perpetrators can come to light through investigation of both plate owners, truck owners and truck occupants and truck serial numbers.
Sogo
(4,993 posts)Gangs of Trump-inspired domestic terrorists maraud, mace, and murder protesters and pedestrians alike and are celebrated by right-wing media and Trump Supporters. Totally unregulated, gathering and planning on social media, they disburse onto the streets of Kenosha, and Portland, and to your city perhaps next. Their mission of supremacy matches their hate, brutal racism, anger of noninclusive, and adoration for a "strongman."
This is Trump's America. He has sown the wind, and we reap the whirlwind for his purposes: "Elect me, or I will destroy you."