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I know what I wrote below sounds harsh. But I stand by it and I want to explain why.
1/ From the start of the epidemic, Trump has mostly refused to wear a mask and engage in social distancing. He often does this very publicly and brazenly (like in Oklahoma City).
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2/ His RNC speech was his biggest stage. 23m watched.
The question is - WHY did Trump choose not to socially distance guests or require them to wear masks, as his own CDC guidelines below recommend?
There seems to be no good reason. He easily could have.
3/ He and his advisors KNEW the consequences of brazenly thumbing their nose at their own CDC.
They know viewers follow his example, and thus it will now be impossible to convince many people social distancing/masks are important. Bc Trump has made it crystal clear they AREN'T.
4/ And they KNOW that masks/social distancing have proven to save lives (see the NIH Director below).
So for no good reason, they chose a path that will make it harder to beat COVID, and would lead to more people dying. They made this choice, consciously.
5/ Think of it this way - say you told your wife you're going to drive to the grocery store, and on the way ignore all the stoplights.
You don't have a good reason - you just want to get to the store faster. She tells you before you leave that you're going to get people killed.
6/ But you do it anyway, and you run over people.
You had no good reason to be reckless. You knew the consequences beforehand and did it anyway.
You'd be rightly called a killer.
The difference btwn you and Trump is that you killed 3 or 4. Trump's actions killed thousands.
Thekaspervote
(35,820 posts)benfranklin1776
(7,022 posts)Third degree murder-his actions have shown depraved indifference to human life. Jared also as he willfully scrapped his testing plan such that it was to inflict maximum carnage on people in blue states. Targeting people for harm based on membership in a political group meets the UNa definition of genocide as well. In for a dime in for a dollar I guess, but they should be in prison for life because of their heinous acts.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Putin is paying him to destroy us. And Trump is doing so, with glee.
The Blue Flower
(6,533 posts)To quote the Mooch. It's there for all to see. What we all must ask is, "To what end?" What's Putin's long-term objective after his asset has brought this country to its knees?
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)He does not have the military power to make it happen, so he relies on weakening his enemies from within.
Botany
(77,529 posts)The only question is he doing it on Putin's orders? And gutting the social security trust
fund will kill seniors too.
certainot
(9,090 posts)concert with trump. limbaugh would not have called it a hoax if trump had wanted to fix it. it's that simple.
the rw has done it before in 2014 when limbaugh and putin helper/tool jerome corsi spent much of the oct 2014 screaming about the threat of ebola - and it got the cons 9 senate seats. it looked like they were trying to use the congo 2019 outbreak, with social media trolls inciting attacks on ebola clinics, but they got it under control. then along come COVID and trump is dumb enough to think the two compare. just yesterday a local rw radio shit suggests biden can fix covid if he's going to leave the border open for infected people.
putin has been using limbaugh since at least 2008 and it might have been his neighbor and golf partner trump who got them hooked up
there is plenty for murphy and dems to follow up on, and media
it is a mistake for media to keep suggesting it's incompetence
Botany
(77,529 posts)... about it. Both Trump and Kushner tried to use that knowledge to make money off of the
coming disease the first by trying to sell their own C-19 test kits (which didn't work) instead of
the W.H.O.'s test kit and by buying up a lot of HCQ (hydroxychloroquine).
FakeNoose
(41,931 posts)Chump's and Kushner's motive was greed. They wanted to cash in on our misery, and they didn't care how.
I sincerely hope the US media outlets get this story out soon!
certainot
(9,090 posts)pandemic, the implications, and just started listing how they could benefit
Illumination
(2,458 posts)an agent for Putin. Not so far fetched...
moondust
(21,306 posts)As some have been suggesting for some time.
I could be wrong but I got the feeling from Mary Trump when she was on with Rachel, Nicolle, and Joy during the RNC that she thinks it's deliberate. Somebody on the panel mentioned "negligence" or "incompetence" and I think she immediately added something like "It's not just negligence/incompetence."
Let the Nuremberg investigation begin.
greymattermom
(5,807 posts)because incompetent people sometimes do the right thing by accident. They ALWAYS do whatever harms us the most.
Solomon
(12,647 posts)affecting minorities and old people they eased up on doing anything about it. He kept saying "some people say we should just ride it out".
I was not surprised at all when they reported that they didn't formulate a national plan because the virus was hurting the blue states. Just surprised that they were stupid enough to think that it would not eventually hit rural areas.
I've even heard religious nuts touting the idea that this is God's way of pruning the garden - that he does it every hundred years or so and since we haven't had any major wars in a while we are kind of overdue. So it's not Trumps fault.
demigoddess
(6,675 posts)Trump wouldn't mind losing those people he hates so much. Probably took pleasure in it.
Also Putin wouldn't mind if it made the US weaker and less important on the international stage. Weaker in our military, weaker in our economy, etc.
LymphocyteLover
(9,947 posts)it's psychopathy and racism
cilla4progress
(26,525 posts)is brave. And a patriot.
Wednesdays
(22,806 posts)"... like in Oklahoma City"
I think he meant Tulsa. I can't remember the last time Rump was in OKC.
ananda
(35,283 posts)... has shown itself to be a Death Cult.
NotASurfer
(2,369 posts)Then he began to use the full power of the Federal government to kill. At first it was denying healthcare and trying to make abortion back-alley again. Then he found he could use ICE to put vulnerable people in unsanitary conditions and deny them care. Hurricanes and wildfires kill, but he does everything in his power to amplify the misery and death. Stochastic terrorism at every rally. Covid is something out of his wildest death-fetish fantasies. He can kill hundreds of thousands of people, and encourage people to throw themselves gleefully on the ever-growing pyre, and feels like he can do so with immunity.
Rebl2
(17,827 posts)dont get is he is doing this to people that would vote for himwhen he wears no mask and doesnt require it of those in the crowds that come to see him. Some will get sick and die.
llashram
(6,269 posts)Traildogbob
(13,071 posts)How many Americans have, and continue to die for us invading and killing Sadam and his kids? To liberate and bring them democracy.
Sadam was a power freak, greedy, corrupt lying murderer. He gassed and used chemicals on his own people opposing his rule. He let those not with him die with no drugs for the simplest fixable illnesses. He was as corrupt as they come, and drug his whole government and military into the Oil Giants propping them up to eliminate regulations and drill baby drill. He had to have 24/7 TV and media praising his leadership. Had to have his name and face everywhere. He would send HIS military to take out protestors against him. His none military thugs would roam streets and kill opposition, many very young males doing the killing. He loved and wanted to use nukes. Sadam had a gold fetish. Everything had to be gold. Sadam used Allah to suck in the fools, he feared no gods or believed in one.
We, Democrats, are trumps Kurds. Exterminate us.
If you think Trump will not have a
Military uniform and firing an assault rifle into the air with his cult shooting with him shouting, Allah, I mean Jesus, is great at his daily rallies in his second and third and fourth term, well. Ya aint thinking!
If Sadam was alive still in power, he would be trumps BFF with Putin and Kim et.al. He would be writing love letters with non disclosed conversations.
If Iraq invaded us and took out him and his spawn, as Cheney says, they would be seen as liberators.
We did not destroy Sadam and his murderous dictatorship, we brought it here. Again, I ask, how many Americans died, are crippled physically and mentally to remove Sadam and bring democracy?
Nobody is coming to liberate us and pull down the towers that represent trump. It is on us.
Or, get a camel and a hooka and roam the desolate deserts of a climate ravaged country of fire, oil rigs everywhere, poison water, air, food, oligarchs and murder if ya speak out. Anybody wanna live on dates.
The parallels of trump and GOP to Sadam and his cronies, are not that different......yet.
spanone
(141,815 posts)lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)paying for his sins...
Just look at his face- his stance, his gate , his mispronounced words... on and on.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)calimary
(90,306 posts)liberalla
(11,148 posts)K&R
dalton99a
(94,642 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(12,151 posts)in positions of power and authority to join him. The MSM other than FauxNews and HateRadio need to really think about getting on board. Four more years of tRUMP is going to affect each and every one of them in ways they cannot imagine. Enemies lists and prosecution are not out of the question. The foreign press can see it - why cant ours??
Illumination
(2,458 posts)DallasNE
(8,015 posts)This is spot on. Also emphasize that it was in Tulsa where not wearing a mask resulted in Herman Cain contacting the disease which was fatal in his case. Provide the specific examples, like Cain, where following the Trump lead has resulted in death.
Another was his Whitehouse talk Thursday where he demanded law and order in Portland, OR and sure enough, last night law and order was applied in Portland and resulted in one man being murdered. There are multiple ways Trump is killing people.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(13,083 posts)If I killed 3-4 people in a reckless driving experience, Id be in prison awaiting trial. I would be found guilty and pay the price with the punishment doled out. Life completely ruined.
Trump will murder tens of thousands...not even get a slap on his puffy wrists.
judesedit
(4,598 posts)I've read that parents determine the political persuasion of their children, generally speaking. It doesn't make sense. Unless he's warning his favorite white supremacists to stay away from his rallies and just continue sowing destruction and violence in blue states. He has to have some stooges to show he has a following for the media. I guess if Jim Jones did it, Dumpy can do the same thing to his followers. Still doesn't make sense to me though. Honestly, it wouldn't bother me to have them all wiped off the face of this earth. Btw, I'm white. They are poison for this country.
moondust
(21,306 posts)If necessary, he can easily convince himself that it's only affecting his enemies.
Locrian
(4,523 posts)1) - he doesn't care. really.
2) - he's short term - and short term it plays to the "ain't no virus gonna stop me" crowd
3) - its a cult, and to them it would either be gods will or the dems fault. never trump
4) - it just reinforces the mindset with them that it's the "final hour" and only trump can save them. sick I know.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)As of 8/30/20 New Zealand has 1,729 confirmed & probable cases with 22 deaths. As of today 8/30/20 the U.S. has 5,934,824 cases & 182,149 deaths!!!
Dukkha
(7,341 posts)Because I don't.
Not.One.Bit.
LymphocyteLover
(9,947 posts)I think he is trying to kill as many people as possible before he loses. God knows he has no real plans otherwise.
LymphocyteLover
(9,947 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(61,871 posts)earth2jim
(7 posts)Is it possible that trump sees his followers deaths and willful exposure to Covid 19 as human sacrifice to him (Narcissistic Personality Disorder dsm 5)
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I think it's just ignorance and denial. Welcome to DU, earth2jim!
Midnight Writer
(25,531 posts)barbtries
(31,319 posts)i'm 65, obese, a smoker, high blood pressure.
and a hermit who is fortunate enough to not have to go anywhere. I go outside to walk the dogs a couple times a day. my sons do all my running for me. in fact I drove yesterday for the first time in 5 months because my grandson came to visit and needed a ride to the airport.
just having visitors after all this time was dicey. i didn't invite anyone but then was so happy to see them though i did insist on safety measures.
i'm okay with dying. it happens to us all. i don't want to die from covid.
niyad
(133,033 posts)orange monster's, I agree. This is deliberate murder.
LymphocyteLover
(9,947 posts)niyad
(133,033 posts)do 't think it was a Freudian slip.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,316 posts)bdamomma
(69,582 posts)tRump is paving a way for Russian occupants, he's killing off Americans, and opening borders for Russians, I maybe way off but with this POS you never know.
oasis
(53,778 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)BonnieJW
(3,128 posts)The Trump Pandemic or Trump's pandemic
Trump's Riot
Trump's Depression
Trump's Economic Disaster
Trump's Jobless Rate
Trump's Covid Deaths
Trump's Post Office Slow Down