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Docreed2003
(16,876 posts)Give how feckless that boot licker has been with regards to Trump
triron
(22,020 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)mjvpi
(1,389 posts)FarPoint
(12,443 posts)Threatened him and Family....
Qutzupalotl
(14,330 posts)Link to tweet
Good time to point out Rod Rosenstein is now in private practice representing an Israeli tech firm that the Senate Intelligence Committee identified as a foreign interference actor for the Trump Campaign.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)of many people. That could be his leverage over some players.
live love laugh
(13,132 posts)🙄
Welp that takes Trump off the hook.
Fortunate smiles Trumps way once again with yet another favorable coincidence.
Spazito
(50,473 posts)From what I read it was "without telling the bureau" which has nothing to do with whether trump knew or not.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Should have spoken out about this AND many other issues.
But no. Once a repuke, always a traitor these days.
FarPoint
(12,443 posts)Thus, he never sensed pure corruption was really on Pennsylvania Ave.
SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)triron
(22,020 posts)ancianita
(36,136 posts)was waay more limited.
If he'd had Starr's full range of investigative standards, we'd have impeached and indicted Trump because we'd have had his tax returns. By investigative standards of the 80's he'd be in jail right now.
dalton99a
(81,590 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,963 posts)Hes Trumps boss boss.
Barr told a guidance counselor he wanted to head the CIA.
From The New Yorker:
...When Barr was an undergraduate, at Columbia, his classmates marched against the war in Vietnam. Barr wanted instead to buttress American power. He had told a guidance counsellor that he hoped one day to lead the C.I.A., and, during breaks from school, he spent two summers as an intern there. In 1973, he finished a masters degree in Government and Chinese Studies and returned to the C.I.A. as an intelligence analyst. At the time, a Senate investigationknown as the Church Committeewas uncovering decades of abuses at the C.I.A., and laws were being passed to curtail them. Barr later recalled the effort as a kind of assault, delivering body blows to the agency....
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/01/20/william-barr-trumps-sword-and-shield?verso=true
marlakay
(11,498 posts)And no matter what they say, they are all republicans.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)On the bright side, *nobody* likes him...I still see trump humper memes that have him locked up with HRC and President Obama, and when he tweets, everyone who replies has NO kind words for him
For all the good that does America
EleanorR
(2,395 posts)180,000 people are dead. Our parents, our grandparents, our children. Trump is burning the country to the ground. Rosenstein should be utterly and deeply ashamed of himself.
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Fiendish Thingy
(15,657 posts)Independent Prosecutor (Watergate, Iran Contra) has more authority and autonomy than Meuller style Special Prosecutors.
That way, the ICs investigations can last beyond the Biden presidency if needed.
Lonestarblue
(10,078 posts)The Special Prosecutor should start work on January 21. Maybe someone like Preet Bharara, although he could be a good AG.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,657 posts)Congress must pass legislation renewing the Independent Prosecutor law, which expired after Ken Starr. An Independent Prosecutor would be unrestrained, unlike a Special Prosecutor, whose mission can be narrowed, truncated or terminated.
MadLinguist
(790 posts)in that time-frame where he thought Rosenstein's loyalties lay. The cagey way Rosenstein carried himself and chose his words and his silences persuaded me that Comey had him dead to rights. At this point, ACAB, right to the top is how I have to see it.
ancianita
(36,136 posts)not enough for the public or Congressional lawyers to believe.
They add up in the end to one big justice delayed. Which is justice denied.
SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)...declared that he was unable to do a full and fair investigation with the demands, lack of cooperation, and restraints coming from the White House and the DOJ. Then, he should have called for an independent counsel to take over.
I would have had respect for him if he'd pushed back. He HAD to have seen what was behind the curtain, yet he did nothing. He is not a stupid man, he knew who and what was happening. As far as I'm concerned, he's complicit.
triron
(22,020 posts)mazzarro
(3,450 posts)I cannot say it any better!
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)From probing possible criminal matters involving the Trump family, including the Trump Tower meeting. Now we know why Trump never seriously moved to fire Rosenstein. Trump had him in his hip pocket.
oasis
(49,408 posts)triron
(22,020 posts)Probably per directives from Rosenstein.
bluestarone
(17,040 posts)Fucked us ALL over!!
liberalla
(9,260 posts)to have it confirmed is disappointing. Having had doubts it's not a total gut punch. I still have hope we'll find our way out.
All the machinations and manipulation that went on... it's mind boggling. The whole thing was a show. The players were well cast, and apparently quite motivated.
2naSalit
(86,782 posts)Wanderlust988
(509 posts)with Trump. He was telling Trump to not worry cause he curtailed the investigation in order to save his own job.
This is why we need a permanent law for an independent special counsel.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Rosenstein should be the first to stand trial. While the American people believed that the Mueller investigation was to be comprehensive, apolitical and democratic, a belief that could not be corroborated because it was quietly being handled by the DOJ, the fascists continued to undermine democracy and the will of the people. Those 2 years could have been put to better use; I'm sure if the Democrats in Congress were aware of the subterfuge, they would have approached everything quite differently.
Those 2 years may end up spelling the demise of the United States of America. Only our votes stand in their path, and even that may have been sabotaged beyond repair. Rosenstein is as much a traitor to our country as Benedict Arnold. He should suffer his fate.
tavernier
(12,401 posts)czarjak
(11,290 posts)Ligyron
(7,639 posts)While many on our side thought he was going insure a full investigation that would save us and lead to the downfall of Trump.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)And getting mixed reviews for their theories. I think it makes sense.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)(regarding Charlottesville!) which I shared (below) in 2018: [Because I expressed my (justifiable) concerns about him, one poster asked if i was "comfortable" aligning myself with Gowdy and Jordan "in smearing and and attempting to discredit Rosenstein"!]
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10142098208#post1
http://www.jewishaz.com/us_worldnews/rosenstein-praises-lincolnesque-trump/article_bd428478-53b6-11e8-88db-fba784f207f5.html
Rosenstein praises Lincolnesque Trump
Wednesday, May 9, 2018
<<Embattled Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told a Washington audience Sunday that President Donald Trumps words after last years deadly white supremacist march in Charlottesville represented a message of unity that needed to be heard during a divisive period in American history.
Following the murder of a counterprotester by a white nationalist, Trump said, You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists.
You also had some very fine people on both sides.
President Trump recognized last August that no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag and we are all made by the same almighty God, Rosenstein said at the Anti-Defamation Leagues annual leadership summit...
Rosenstein said Trumps call for more tolerance after the Charlottesville rally resembled President Abraham Lincolns 1861 inaugural address. In that speech, the 16th president urged unity despite bitter divisions between the North and the South over slavery.
Lincoln insisted his opponents were not enemies, because we were all Americans, Rosenstein said. He concluded his inaugural address by appealing to the better angels of our nature. President Trump echoed that statement with his remarks last summer of we must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans....
When victims are attacked because of their race, religion, gender or sexual orientation, there are laws that empower [the Justice Department] to respond, he said. Enforcing those laws is important to President Trump and Attorney General Sessions.>>
oasis
(49,408 posts)deurbano
(2,895 posts)breath, hoping Rosenstein had a master plan to stay in the thing's good graces (which fawning praise might achieve) in order to ultimately save the day (our democracy), but unfortunately his master plan involved the opposite goal. He was always one of them. I was rather shocked when I saw Mueller's testimony, since we had been so regaled by stories of him from an earlier time, but he seemed faded, maybe even ill, and now I wonder if that's the reason he was chosen. (Unimpeachable reputation, but not actually up to the job now.) Rosenstein and Barr are both such contemptible, evil weasels.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Takket
(21,626 posts)on if not for the stupid "memo" at the DOJ (which BTW needs to be eliminated day one of the next administration).
Rosenstein played impartial for the camera but was undermining his own investigators the whole time. he's an absolute snake. someday we will know the truth of it all...........
EleanorR
(2,395 posts)And Barr buried the findings under a pile of lies.
Bettie
(16,126 posts)proof that you can literally never trust a Republican. Never.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,675 posts)All you need to know about whether he is a partisan hack or not.