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Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:11 PM

From Andrew McCabe:

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Former acting FBI director Andrew McCabe said in response to my reporting that had he known Mueller was not conducting the counterintelligence investigation into Trump, he would have pushed for the FBI to do it. He gave me this statement.






Edited to add:

Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein concluded the FBI had not cleared the threshold needed to conduct a counterintel investigation into the president's ties to Russia. Rosenstein believed the FBI had acted far to hastily to open investigation as it grieved firing of director Comey.



I think we're going to have to wait to see why Muller didn't investigate instead of jumping to conclusions. We are only starting to get the story.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:19 PM

1. Mueller should have walked away.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:33 PM

2. If mueller was told 'DONT do the CoIntel stuff, FBI is gonna do that.',

And then FBI was told, essentially, the same thing about mueller, this looks real real bad for Rosenstein. But heres the thing..even if it couldn't ever be used for a domestic criminal proceeding on it's own, the outside-looking IC (CIA, NSA, Etc) HAVE ALL this Intel already. My bet would be that in the next month or so now, some of it starts to leak; they know full well what a complicitous ass trump truly is re: russian IntelServices, and I'd bet like hell they're pissed as all git at him for telling the american people their hard work was all bullshit for the last 4 years.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:55 PM

10. From your keyboard to karma's ear!

🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

Oh, I'll bet they are pissed at chumputin!

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Response to Volaris (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 04:14 PM

17. Hopefully.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:36 PM

3. Muller never should have had such a stellar reputation.

He never gave one shit about our country.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:51 PM

8. I have to disagree.

Barr was the main problem though he was not the only one. We still don't have access to the full report, nor the extremely important grand jury material.
Rudy and media pushed the notion that the investigation was dragging on too long (hello, Whitewater?) .
Members of congress were repeating over and over that their constituents did.not care about it.

He was ham stringed by the legal opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted, and that affected everything.
His warning to the American people was that Russia is still doing it "even as we sit here" and that every American should be aware and very concerned. Nobody seemed to listen.

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Response to Cetacea (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:57 PM

11. You have a good point.

He did try to warn us.

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Response to Cetacea (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 04:14 PM

16. That's a good point.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 04:18 PM

18. IMO Mueller was threatened in some way and his hands were tied. We are dealing with mobsters here

the Trump-Russia crime family. It's supremely dangerous and fucked up.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 05:15 PM

20. Muellers post investigation testimony showed his weakness.

Both physically and mentally.
He should not have been in charge.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:39 PM

5. No..we may not know all

but at least we know something about Russian interference...and we're onto Trump and Russia... Mueller wasn't the Mighty Mouse we thought he was (Here I come to save the day!!) because he was weakened from the onset... if Rod Rosenstein thought kissing Trump's fat ass, hiding evidence, limiting the scope of the investigation, and allowing Trump to beat up Andrew McCabe was his ticket to the big leagues and a career topper, well, he was wrong...he was expendable and nothing special...Rosenstein will be vilified the rest of his life...good....

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:44 PM

6. Looks like it may have been AG Rod Rosenstein



I think we're going to have to wait to see.

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Response to MelissaB (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:45 PM

7. I think I'm going to add this to the OP.

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Response to MelissaB (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:52 PM

9. +1000

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:39 PM

4. So true. Everyone, and I mean everyone, thought that Mueller had free reign

I think that Barr killed it, as this "little' detail did not surface until just before the report was "finished".

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:57 PM

12. I don't think we are jumping to conclusions at all

Most of us knew something was wrong with the investigation and Schiff kept trying to tell us and nobody was listening. I always felt something was wrong but now I understand. I never trusted Rosenstein but I did McCabe. What I didn't count on was how deceptive Rosenstein was to McCabe. I wish though Mueller had said as much in plain English when he was before congress. We are not jumping to conclusions, rather learning our unease was well founded.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:59 PM

13. COULD'A, SHOULD'A, WOULD'A

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 04:01 PM

14. we'll never get to the truth as long as the person being investigated gets to conduct the

investigation.

The ties between DOJ and the executive branch should have been severed after Nixon and we as a country blew that. if there weren't some GOP members in the senate during nixon's admin that had a spine and sense of country he would have gotten away with everything too. unfortunately those GOP members no linger exist.

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Response to Takket (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 06:17 PM

22. right on

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 04:04 PM

15. so weird...seems like I'm reading an obituary

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 04:29 PM

19. The Center of Gravity - Must be to PROSECUTE

 

Republicans want to hide this.

Investigation done, now they must prosecute Rosenstein! Let the burden of proof be on Republicans to give reasons why he should not be prosecuted...and this entire clusterfuck exposed, with the guilty parties hung out to dry.

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Response to MelissaB (Original post)

Sun Aug 30, 2020, 05:34 PM

21. Call me a Deep State fan

A political state that cannot protect its sovereignty is ripe for the picking. Where did our national resolve go? Why is it on hold these 4 years, and why has it been eroding for decades? We ain't what we used to be.

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