New ABC News/IPSOS Poll: GOP Convention Backfires As Trump Approval Drops With Republicans

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Posted on Sun, Aug 30th, 2020 by Jason Easley
GOP Convention Backfires As Trump Approval Drops With Republicans


https://www.politicususa.com/2020/08/30/trump-approval-drops-with-republicans.html




A new poll reveals that Donald Trump’s GOP convention hurt his approval rating among Republican voters.


ABC News reported on the new ABC News/IPSOS Poll:

Less than one-third (31%) of the country has a favorable view of the president in the days after he accepted the Republican nomination for the second time — a stagnant reality for Trump. His favorability rating stood at 32% in the last poll, taken a week earlier, right after the Democratic National Convention.


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Among Democrats, too, Biden’s favorability climbed seven points after his convention — showing signs that he’s solidified support among his base . But Trump’s favorability dipped slightly — by four points among Republicans in the newest survey.

Trump’s overall favorability is at 31% with 59% holding an unfavorable view of the president. Joe Biden has a net positive approval rating of 46%-40%.

It takes a lot for a candidate to hold a political convention and lose support with members of his own party, Biden gained support during his convention and his number have stayed up. Trump is the rare candidate whose numbers tend to go down the more he is in the media.

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[Buckeye_Democrat]

1. IPSOS facto, I'm feeling better!

Thanks for sharing!

[ananda]

46. Same here!

I needed that! I expect we all did!!!

[triron]

2. Biden's approval is only 46-40?? WTF is wrong with people?

[ProfessorGAC]

5. An Hypothesis

30% is what I believe the cult support floor. So, we start at 30, not zero.
Then, some Rs & I's not happy about Trump. But, they still fear minorities and Biden is attached to "that black guy who was president". I can see that sentiment causing another 10% to disapprove. Stupid, but probable.
What gets me is Biden's favor ability at 46. There are 14% of people who don't know if they approve of him or not?
Think of the PR value if that ratio was 60:40

[KS Toronado]

9. I think what is meant here

Trump’s overall favorability is at 31% with 59% holding an unfavorable view of the president. Joe Biden
has a net positive approval rating of 46%-40%.

59 minus 31 gives dumpie an 28% net NEGATIVE approval rating.Biden has a positive approval rating.
ie: 65 - 25 equals 40

Numbers can be confusing to us all and I probably am confused, but I believe thats what the author meant.

[lagomorph777]

47. Biden is +6% and rising; Turd is -28% and falling.

That's pretty good news.

To clarify how arithmetic works:
31% - 59% = -28%
46% - 40% = +6%

[Le Roi de Pot]

13. Net positive ...approval minus disapproval 43%

Trump has negative net approval..

Basically in an ideal world - the bastard is fucked.

But he knows that in the real world:

Young voters don't care about politics
You can disenfranchise voters
Your friendly Russian Hacker will fuck around with election systems and command an army of bots on social media to drive division and hatred


So we have to fight on multiple fronts ..its just not a clash of ideas anymore.

This is probably the last gasp for right wing nutjobs ..and trust me they will do everything they can to stay on in power.

[jaxexpat]

17. Damn good question. Yet 30%-40% seem hellbent on keeping Trump in office.

538 had Biden 73-27 last week and now he's 69-31. And they say his chance of winning is only slightly better than Trump's. Sunday PM positivity does not make me feel better about it. This thing is FAR from secure. I'd say we need 20% to overcome the mail sabotage alone. And when I subtract 31 from 69, I get 38. If 20 points is no show because of the mail, that's only 18 dwindling points remaining that separate us from disaster. In swing states it could easily create electoral mayhem.

Happy to set your mind at ease, however.

[Nexus2]

23. Trump voters say they're more 'comfortable' with him, that he's much less 'swampy' than those Dems,

He's a doer, not a talking and strong leader and, of course, the Economy. Oh and what has Biden ever done? At least that what I've heard most often. Specifics are usually missing or some vague hemming and hawing, usually about the economy or some of his promises (which he hasn't kept).

[GusBob]

3. Trotting out his bratty kids didnt help methinks

GOP parents I know are weird that way sometimes
Bragging up your kids makes jealousy

[moonscape]

11. And screaming gf of a son. n/t

[lagomorph777]

48. I think Kimberly Gargoyle did a huge amount of damage.

Scary monsters on parade.

[calimary]

51. Good Grief, what did Gavin Newsim ever see in her?

Kimberly Gargoyle is a good name for her, lagomorph777. I like it. She sure was an audio gargoyle. A shrieking harpie. Off-putting to the point of utter ridiculousness.

[LudwigPastorius]

55. Yikes!

[Volaris]

19. My take on this is that he stayed mostly 'on script':

And his base doesnt like it when he isnt spewing nasty acidic bile over the parts of Murica that they hate...they expect him to reflect the worst parts of themselves, and when he even attempts to act 'politically correct', he partially revokes the social and political licences he's given to them to be hateful assholes, and they dont like that none too much.

[lindysalsagal]

4. And it will drop to 25% when the entire eastern seaboard melts into the ocean

and there is no longer any fresh water for americans to drink. But that will be Obama's fault, so, he'll retain 25%.

[Buckeyeblue]

6. He is getting down to 2008 W territory

These next two months will be interesting. He needs to try to do something to get positive attention. I look for him to agree with the Democrats latest proposal for covid relief part 2. He'll want checks getting to people before election day. If he doesn't get a bill agreed to this week, it might be hard to deliver before November.

Of course he'll try to take credit for it.

[underpants]

7. Yeah he is. W got down to 23 I think

He does need the checks to start going fast. Boy, hope they are wired not via mail.

Also, the supplements to state better be a flat rate. This percentage thing could take states weeks if not months.

[Buckeyeblue]

26. Agreed. It needs to be a simple flat rate

I don't think he's smart enough to pull it off. He seems too fixated on the crazies right now.

[JI7]

30. W was seen as being pro Muslim and pro immigration so he lost support among

the bigots. Trump will keep those people.

[Buckeyeblue]

32. And the economy tanked and he did basically nothing

[JI7]

33. Yes, the economy was the biggest thing back then

unfortunately it seems like people often aren't troubled by bad things happening unless it happens to them.

[Buckeyeblue]

34. Correct. It's the I got mine mentality.

Most people are not able to look at the big picture. They see only their own situation. They offer up anecdotal incidents as reason for their "world" view.

[JI7]

36. This is why I think things like sports being canceled could hurt Trump more than deaths

[Polybius]

40. Republicans also started turning against the war

Now a majority of them oppose Bush's wars.

[zaj]

43. And he wasn't up for reelection... Harder to say you are unhappy...

... with the person you are going to vote for.

[Polybius]

39. Not even close

This is his favorable rating, which is not nearly the same as his approval rating, which is hovering in the low to mid 40's. W's approval rating hit 30%.

[Awsi Dooger]

41. Correct

Approval rating is job performance while favorable rating is personal level

Too often they are confused or blended as one in the same

[paleotn]

8. Doing the same thing over and over...

and expecting a different result. There's a word for that.

[HuskyOffset]

45. and now a word from Vaas (WARNING: NSFW)

warning: clip contains profanity & insanity:

[Cha]

10. Hope All the Evil trumps Are BACKFIRING Over

this News. Their Fucking LIES & Gaslighting Didn't WORK.. America is smarter that THAT.

[Gothmog]

12. Approval on the conventions:

Link to tweet

[Thekaspervote]

14. This must be what twittiler is so mad about today!

[lpbk2713]

15. That wasn't a political convention. I was a cheap infomercial.

The kind you see on cable TV channels at 3 AM.

[Illumination]

21. Yes but usually on the infomercials, there's interesting B.S. with people that have consumed

an entire pot of coffee. Trump was a bore & 1/2 asleep with whatever he was on...

[lagomorph777]

49. More like the Creature Feature at 2AM.

[ffr]

16. Waa-waa!

[ecstatic]

18. I wonder if it was the super spreader event that caused the dip?

Perhaps pretending as if we weren't in the middle of a deadly pandemic was last straw for some?

[LAS14]

29. Which super spreader event? nt

[lagomorph777]

50. Turd's speech on the White House lawn

https://news.yahoo.com/commentary-trump-closes-rnc-potential-051237994.html

Trump closes RNC with a potential super-spreader event: Of COVID-19, racism and fear

[LAS14]

52. I'm waiting for reports to start cropping up in two weeks. nt

[lagomorph777]

54. Yup! Hopefully lots of high-profile Reptilicans will drop.

[Kablooie]

20. I hope this is true.

Seems to me that polls saying Biden's support is dropping are improbable.

This would mean a substantial number of people are still thinking, "Hmmm. Biden or Trump? Which should I vote for?"
I seriously doubt there are many people who haven't made their minds up.

Either you are a rabid Trump supporter or you vote for Biden, (or don't vote)
It's something that isn't really up to much discussion.

[Dukkha]

22. Maybe they should have yelled louder

and use more apocalyptic imagery.

[Ford_Prefect]

24. Damage polls are certainly encouraging. We still need to have all the votes COUNTED.

I believe his sister and niece when they say to be very scared of what he'll decide to do to avoid losing. Not to mention what he'll do if the vote appears to be nearly, maybe, almost close. He has shredded checks and balances. He has no shame about hurting other people including his own. Winning is the ONLY score that matters to him...And to McConnell, Burr, DeVos, Kavanaugh, and all the other enablers who are empowered by Trump.

And then there's whatever chaos and mayhem Vladimir has in store for us, Trump whisperer that he is.

[unitedwethrive]

25. I'd hate to be the staffer that has to tell him about this...

oh fuck it, they made their bed.

[underpants]

35. He's in bizarro land citing polls no one has hardly heard of

and that 538 doesn’t even use

Trump’s alternate-reality bounce
If a spree of Sunday-morning retweets are anything to go by, however, Trump is a believer in the bounce — and in the ABC/Ipsos results being an outlier. The president boosted tweets and analysis from right-wing Twitter account @PollWatch2020 more than twenty times, including polls from the Democracy Institute and the Trafalgar Group showing him winning nationally and in key swing states.

There’s plenty of reason to be doubtful of those numbers, though: The Trafalgar Group gets a C- in FiveThirtyEight’s pollster ratings, and the Democracy Institute isn’t even listed.

Also of concern is the fact both groups’ numbers fly in the face of just about everything else out there — in Michigan, for example, Biden’s average lead stands at 7.1 percentage points, and that includes the Trafalgar poll that shows Trump winning. In fact, Trafalgar has the only FiveThirtyEight-recognized poll this month to show Trump winning by any margin in the state.

This isn’t the first time Trump has rejected reality as presented by reputable pollsters:

But trying to quash polls that don’t look good for your campaign isn’t a great reelection strategy, especially when most of the polls are in consistent agreement. In the key swing states of Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, Biden still retains a lead, one mirrored in national polls.

https://www.vox.com/2020/8/30/21407646/trump-approval-poll-rnc-abc-news-ipsos

[LiberalFighter]

27. THIS - Trump is the rare candidate whose numbers tend to go down the more he is in the media.

[LAS14]

28. This makes me so happy! nt

[womanofthehills]

31. Leaning on the podium while boring everyone to death

Not a good look. He doesn’t have the stamina to stand upright. Maybe people wanted a positive message and did not believe Biden wanted a US without windows.

[Blue Owl]

37. K&R

[foxtruth]

38. Post your comments on Fox New Stories at their website.

Answer back to Fox News
For about a month now, I have been writing comments about the various news stories on the Fox News website. Sometimes I will have up to 8 different fox news stories open on my screen and reply to each with different counterpoints, often a number of them on the same story over the course of an hour or two. It’s actually rather fun and satisfying….being able to get your say in with these people.

This way, I can post dozens of attention getting posts that the fox followers will read, often with ‘interesting’ feedback from them, as you can well imagine. Surprisingly, there are a substantial number of us Democratic types that post on there, or that rate the comments. (I’ve had up to 12 likes for a post). In actuality though, the foxers outnumber the ‘normals’ by 8 to 1? Or more? Our correct side needs more troops over there to help educate them about the truth.

Over time, I’ve had to delete my account and change usernames when Fox catches on, or someone complains. I think this has happened when I post too much too quickly, perhaps and also when I get down on Fox directly, so be a little circumspect. At a certain point, Fox will keep showing you your posts, but no one else will see them. You will know this when no one reacts to them, or you can do as I do, and go to your incognito page and see if your posts show up or not on fox there.. It’s a pretty easy get around though, just delete your account, keep the same url, and create a new account with a new user name.

Please try and keep things civil. Witty if possible, and try to avoid insults. We’re here to convince Fox people who are often woefully ignorant of the truth. Educate them.

I don’t believe you’re supposed to cut and paste, but I do successfullyIt’s actually kind of fun, (addicting?) to post, and I think it may actually do a lot of good, as a lot of fox readers aren’t necessarily commited Trump cultists and may be on the fence.

Below is an example of what I post.
See you over there!
Foxtruth
Answer back to Fox News

For about a month now, I have been writing comments about the various news stories on the Fox News website. Sometimes I will have up to 8 different fox news stories open on my screen and reply to each with different counterpoints, often a number of them on the same story over the course of an hour or two. It’s actually rather fun and satisfying….being able to get your say in with these people.

This way, I can post dozens of attention getting posts that the fox followers will read, often with ‘interesting’ feedback from them, as you can well imagine. Surprisingly, there are a substantial number of us Democratic types that post on there, or that rate the comments. (I’ve had up to 12 likes for a post). In actuality though, the foxers outnumber the ‘normals’ by 8 to 1? Or more? Our correct side needs more troops over there to help educate them about the truth.

Over time, I’ve had to change my delete my account and change usernames when Fox catches on, or someone complains. I think this has happened when I post too much too quickly, perhaps and also when I get down on Fox directly, so be a little circumspect. At a certain point, Fox will keep showing you your posts, but no one else will see them. You will know this when no one reacts to them, or you can do as I do, and go to your incognito page and see if your posts show up or not on fox there.. It’s a pretty easy get around though, just delete your account, keep the same url, and create a new account with a new user name.

Please try and keep things civil. Witty if possible, and try to avoid insults. We’re here to convince Fox people who are often woefully ignorant of the truth. Educate them.

I don’t believe you’re supposed to cut and paste, but I do successfullyIt’s actually kind of fun, (addicting?) to post, and I think it may actually do a lot of good, as a lot of fox readers aren’t necessarily commited Trump cultists and may be on the fence.
Below is an example of what I post.
See you over there!

Foxtruth

Trump’s deep thoughts:
1- “why don’t we just drop a nuke in the eye of a hurricane to stop it?”
2- the Revolutionary Army took over the airport’s in the 1700’s
3- “the new clean coal mine is going to take out the coal and actually clean it so it’ll be clean coal.”
4- “the F-35’s are invisible. They can’t fight against them. The enemy can be right next to one and they can’t fight because they’re stealth....it’s literally invisible.”
5- “Puerto Rico is surrounded by water, big water, ocean water.”
6- “water is wet....from the standpoint of water.”
7- “they say the noise from those big windmills causes cancer.”
8- “disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. Is there a way we can do that....by injection, almost a cleaning. It sounds interesting to me.”
9- “Isn’t Finland a part of Russia?”
10- “the map came to me with that sharpie drawing on it.”
11. “Andrew Jackson should have stopped the Civil War. (He died 16 years prior)
12. Trump said he had never heard of a Category 5 Hurricane even though he had already experienced three in his presidency.
13. “When I was hearing the amount of people that died with the flu, I was shocked to hear it… I would have said, ‘Does anybody die of the flu?’ I didn’t know people died from the flu.”
Fact check: Trump’s grandfather died of the flu.
14. "We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
Trumps mean girl name calling is surely getting old.

[Pluvious]

53. You are doing great work, foxtruth...

( note: you might want to edit you post to remove the double-paste ? )

Thanks for sharing your trips and trix

[Sherman A1]

42. Good

Hopefully it continues to drop.

[Johnny2X2X]

44. Do not dismiss the polls Trump is citing

Yes, they are totally made up and fake. But he's been in a different mode for a while right now, he doesn't expect to win so he's trying to steal it. These polls he's now Tweeting about are not valid at all and their purpose is not to help him generate excitement to win the election. This is about legitimacy, Trump is going to steal the election and wants to appear legitimate, so he'll need fake polls to back up his theft of our Democracy.