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Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:01 PM

"I am not banning fracking"


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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:15 PM

1. Important for critical PA... but it's going to be dancing on a tightrope n/t

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:18 PM

2. Of course he won't 'ban fracking'

There are far better ways to achieve the goal & on a far greater scale than to simply "ban fracking."

The plan Biden has in mind for climate issues isn't narrowed to just fracking.
But the trigger word is overused in politics as though its the only pollution concern we have.
It has become a broadbrushed political wedge, while omitting a litany of polluting issues that Biden addresses in his policy plans.





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Response to Budi (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:28 PM

4. Oh, there you go..........

expecting people to think, believe truth, and actually examine facts.
Next thing you know you'll be expecting our government leaders to actually obey the laws and serve the people who elected them.........

After all, the sign I saw along the road said "KEEP AMERICA GREAT!"

See there?

There's nothing wrong!

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Response to Budi (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:32 PM

6. Senator Harris is going to have to walk this back

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/climate-change/fracking-ban/

“There’s no question I’m in favour of banning fracking,” Harris said at a CNN town hall. “And starting — and starting with what we can do on day one around public lands, right? And then there has to be legislation, but yes — and this is something I’ve taken on in California. I have a history of working on this issue. And to your point, we have to just acknowledge that the residual impact of fracking is enormous in terms of the impact on the health and safety of communities.” Her climate plan does not include a ban, but mentions closing loopholes, “including the Halliburton Loophole, which exempts the fossil fuel industry from disclosing the dangerous chemicals used in fracking under the Safe Drinking Water Act,” and “immediately halting all new fossil fuel leases on federal lands and waters.”


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Response to Celerity (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:37 PM

10. No she doesn't...

She can have a different opinion on issues, as long as she abide's by the President's/

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:46 PM

11. I agree she should be able to do that, but it is going to be used as a bludgeon on Biden

Biden is all in on the 'grab as many centre right voters from Rump as I can' plan. He looks at as a more more fruitful than shoring up the left quarter to the third of our Party, as it is a net 2 difference. Minus 1 for Trump, plus 1 for Biden.

I think 5 to 8% max of the left bolts overall, due to them seeing Rump as such a clear and present danger, so all Biden needs to do is to peel off 3 to 5% (I am sure he is banking on at least 6 or 7%) of wobbly Rethugs who are weary of Rumps shitbaggery, to make that a winning play (raw net numbers-wise).

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Response to Celerity (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 03:15 PM

12. California farmers and communities who rely on groundwater don't trust the frackers.

If the frackers pollute the groundwater their farms become useless, and communities will be forced to build very expensive water treatment plants to remove the toxins.

The potential dangers of fracking are well recognized here.

Unfortunately the state is highly dependent on natural gas which supplies about 40% of our electric power, including backup power for solar and wind energy schemes.

Biden is correct. We can't simply ban fracking before alternatives are established.

Alas, carbon free energy sources are not going to replace fossil fuels by the magic hand of free markets.

Too many people haven't yet realized we are stealing from future generations when we burn fossil fuels.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:24 PM

3. Truth about fracking

I don't want it banned, I want their methods to be made public so we can better judge.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:30 PM

5. AND.....

the existing laws regarding it enforced and obeyed - and changed if there is reason to do so in the interest of public safety (the "public" being US, not share-holders!),

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:34 PM

7. Thanks. Trump knows its a trigger word that will drive a divisive wedge further in the Dem Party.


Nina Turner's already screeching it on twitter....
"Biden says he is pro fracking!"

No he's not & that's not what he said.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:34 PM

8. Yeah, I'm not sure that's the best way to state it, but...

Biden has strong support for green energy going forward. The way to eliminate fracking is to drive it out of business through use of renewables.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 02:35 PM

9. K & R THIS ⬆️

If anyone would bother to read his policy plan on Energy & Climate, they'd already know this.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 03:58 PM

13. Unfortunately, it probably won't get banned

until there is no clean water left anywhere.

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