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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:22 AM Sep 2012

Maureen Dowd just can't help herself.

she can't write a single fucking Op-Ed without some type of swipe at Obama.

I gotta ask---what planet does she fucking live on?

Today's piece:

"The billion-dollar Republican campaign should be sweeping the floor with the deflated President Obama after four years of 8 percent-plus unemployment".

"Even if voters are inclined to fire the incumbent, they need reassurance about what the replacement would do".


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/opinion/sunday/dowd-the-son-also-sets.html?_r=0

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Maureen Dowd just can't help herself. (Original Post) trumad Sep 2012 OP
Apparantly 47 percent are sure of what Rmoney will do MichiganVote Sep 2012 #1
Acid bile corrodes your brain like that lunatica Sep 2012 #2
She is a snarky person who loves to takes jabs at people. Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #3
Her "powers" of analysis end at the personal BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #4
"...poster child for the NYT's descent into comparative irrelevance..." Berlum Sep 2012 #19
This is just par for the course with Dowd Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #5
Yep. That's when I stopped bothering with her. nt redqueen Sep 2012 #27
Dowd writes 800 words trashing Romney, Queen Ann, and the campaign in general demwing Sep 2012 #6
You can't drink a quart of gin every day before noon and not expect it to affect you sooner or later Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #7
i'm not a big Dowd fan, but... Enrique Sep 2012 #8
I bet she's a DUer JNelson6563 Sep 2012 #9
Dowd has consistently Are_grits_groceries Sep 2012 #10
Love her. She's one of cleverest, most talented writers around. And she's a liberal. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #11
Yep, I have a massive professional crush on Dowd. She's incredible. nt stevenleser Sep 2012 #14
Is your head in the sand about her. trumad Sep 2012 #18
I love her. She's one of the cleverest, most talented writers in existence right now. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #29
Can you be any more petty? MadHound Sep 2012 #12
So voters are inclined to vote Obama out? trumad Sep 2012 #17
Some historical reality for you, MadHound Sep 2012 #23
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #22
Gee, I see you're substituting vulgarity and shock for actual intelligent thought and discourse, MadHound Sep 2012 #25
Being a Nader fan at DU is a lonely job, isn't it? Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #26
My, you assume a lot of things, MadHound Sep 2012 #28
She's a tad self-important DefenseLawyer Sep 2012 #13
I see nothing wrong with her attacking Romney severely on a regular basis jsr Sep 2012 #15
She switches every other column. She's got to keep both sides up in arms. sammytko Sep 2012 #16
"Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!" Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #20
Stylistically It's A Great Line But As A Factual Matter It Lacks Context DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #21
At one time years ago I actually liked her madokie Sep 2012 #24
Coming into a Presidency following an economic collapse aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #30
She knows that, it's a GOPer meme that she's repeating ... seems she's got a bone to pick uponit7771 Sep 2012 #31

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
3. She is a snarky person who loves to takes jabs at people.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:46 AM
Sep 2012

She always has been. Her writing is stuffy and long-winded too.

BeyondGeography

(41,180 posts)
4. Her "powers" of analysis end at the personal
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:52 AM
Sep 2012

Policy, governance, history...it's all off limits. Little Sulzberger will stick with her to the end. She is the poster child for the NYT's descent into comparative irrelevance.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
19. "...poster child for the NYT's descent into comparative irrelevance..."
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:23 AM
Sep 2012

There you have it.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
5. This is just par for the course with Dowd
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:09 AM
Sep 2012

Remember all that crap she wrote about Gore, while essentially giving Junior a pass?

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
6. Dowd writes 800 words trashing Romney, Queen Ann, and the campaign in general
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:35 AM
Sep 2012

and only 40 words on Obama (which really just seem as if they were meant to set the expectations artificially higher for Romney), and you focus on the Obama bits?

how about these quotes on Romney:

He finally released a tax return from 2011, showing he paid a higher tax rate than required. The press immediately unearthed a Romney quote from July: “If I had paid more than are legally due, I don’t think I’d be qualified to become president.” Case closed.


Or

Aside from Mitt’s penchant for being a piñata, the campaign is a moveable feast of missteps: spending money at the wrong time; putting on biographical ads too late; letting the Obama camp define Romney before he defined himself; staging a disastrous foreign trip; fumbling the convention; and somehow neglecting to tell the candidate that there is no longer any such thing as off the record, if there ever was.


Or

As a candidate, Mitt Romney is awkward, off-putting and hollow, so bad that if he were a Bain company, he would shut himself down.


Or

Ann Romney is clearly feeling the strain. On Radio Iowa, she ordered whining Republicans: “Stop it. This is hard. You want to try it? Get in the ring.” She said Americans should realize “how lucky” they were to have Mitt. She sounded entitled, even as her husband dismissed half the country as entitlement junkies.


Or

An Obama adviser calls the Romney campaign “a study in mismanagement,” while the conservative columnist Peggy Noonan deems it “a rolling calamity.” Yet after Tampa, Romney gave promised bonuses totaling $192,440 to at least nine senior campaign staff members working under Stevens.


It was an awesome article, not a swipe at Obama at all.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
7. You can't drink a quart of gin every day before noon and not expect it to affect you sooner or later
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:40 AM
Sep 2012

Mean Girl MoDo lost it many a year ago.

What she tries to pass off as keen political insight is no more than ninth-grade level sniping by someone desperate to still be considered a 'cool kid'.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,139 posts)
10. Dowd has consistently
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:48 AM
Sep 2012

whacked the Catholic Patriarchy. She has also barreled over Mittens quite a few times.

Do I agree with or enjoy all her columns ? No. However, more than once, she has aimed her snark quite lethally on people and causes that deserve it IMHO.

President Obama can handle her snark.

I can too because I believe she is worth reading. She may make me madder than hell, but she also may make me shout 'Yes!'

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. Love her. She's one of cleverest, most talented writers around. And she's a liberal.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:58 AM
Sep 2012

Are you living with your head in the sand that you don't KNOW that this will be the first time an incumbent will be elected with unemployment over 8%? She is just stating the obvious, something that EVERYONE is talking about. Were it not for that one statistic, there would be an even larger gap between Obama and Romney's numbers.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. I love her. She's one of the cleverest, most talented writers in existence right now. nt
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:35 PM
Sep 2012
 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
12. Can you be any more petty?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:00 AM
Sep 2012

Dowd writes an op/ed damning Romney, his wife, and his campaign manager, yet because she has the gall to speak the truth(after all, the last time a president won reelection with unemployment over eight percent was 76 years ago), you go off on her.

Disgusting, just disgusting. You Obama purity people are becoming positively Orwellian in your insistence that nobody speaks ill of the President, even if it is the truth.

Face it, she is right, according to political wisdom and historical president, Romney should be mopping the floor with Obama. But we got lucky that it is Romney running, instead of somebody with more political and common sense. Count your blessings instead of complaining that every single word that Dowd writes doesn't reflect divine light upon Obama.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
17. So voters are inclined to vote Obama out?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:21 AM
Sep 2012

Is that how you feel?

So Romney should be cleaning Obama's clock?

Really---is that how you feel.

No you don't...

She's dead wrong on those comments.

Dead wrong.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
23. Some historical reality for you,
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:35 AM
Sep 2012

No president running for reelection with an unemployment rate over eight percent has won reelection for the past seventy six years. Why? Because as always, it's the economy stupid.

With the economy still sucking in this country(and please, don't try to blow smoke up my ass by saying otherwise), Obama was hugely vulnerable in this election. Hell, even Obama himself has alluded to this on more than one occasion. But the fact of the matter is that the Republicans tossed up a horrible candidate as Obama's opponent, a candidate who has badly managed his campaign and his image. Obama got lucky in that regard, that he got Lurch as his opponent, rather than somebody more along the lines of, oh, say, a Reagan. Don't believe me, ask Carter.

That is historical reality, and political reality as well. You may not like it, but it is reality still the same, deal with it.

And please, don't try to tell me how I feel. It's rude.

Response to MadHound (Reply #12)

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
25. Gee, I see you're substituting vulgarity and shock for actual intelligent thought and discourse,
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:38 AM
Sep 2012

Why does that not surprise me.

Oh, and speaking of Nader, since you brought him up, I thought you might like to read this piece by him.
""There was something missing from the release of a tape showing Mitt Romney pandering to fat cats in Boca Raton, Florida with these very inflammatory words: “There are 47 percent who are with him, (Obama) who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. These are people who pay no income tax.” Romney said his job “is not to worry about those people.”

Hey, Mitt, why start with the 47 percent? Fully 100 percent of the nation’s 500 biggest corporations are dependent on various kinds of corporate welfare – subsidies, giveaways, bailouts, waivers, and other dazzling preferences – while many pay no tax at all on very substantial profits"
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/20-7 ''

Ooo, I see the sparks flying now, as your neural circuits overload and start to short out.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
26. Being a Nader fan at DU is a lonely job, isn't it?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:45 AM
Sep 2012

Sort of like being the Maytag repairman, "the lonliest job in town".


 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
28. My, you assume a lot of things,
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 11:28 AM
Sep 2012

You assume that I'm a Nader fan, you assume that that I voted for Nader at some point. You know what they say about ass u me?

So, do you have any comment on Nader's piece that I linked to?

Better yet, do you have any comment on the OP, and the historical reality that no President who has had unemployment over eight percent has ever won reelection?

Or are you here simply to throw bombs and insult people?

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
13. She's a tad self-important
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:02 AM
Sep 2012

But I don't think that's a swipe. A bad economy generally spells trouble for an incumbent.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
16. She switches every other column. She's got to keep both sides up in arms.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:18 AM
Sep 2012

One day you love her, the next you hate her.

I prefer Gail Collins. She hates mitt 24/7/365. 366 on leap years!

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,968 posts)
21. Stylistically It's A Great Line But As A Factual Matter It Lacks Context
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:27 AM
Sep 2012

It would be like a loved one of a critically injured accident victim telling the ER physician he let his partner die.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
24. At one time years ago I actually liked her
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:38 AM
Sep 2012

I'm not sure if I changed or if she did or even maybe it was I was seeing more there than there was to see

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
30. Coming into a Presidency following an economic collapse
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:50 PM
Sep 2012

doesn't allow Obama to be treated like a normal incumbent but she's oblivious to that.

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