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RandySF

(58,511 posts)
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:33 PM Aug 2020

Democratic Firm Predicts 'Red Mirage' and 'Chaos' on Election Night

Hawkfish, the political data agency funded by Michael Bloomberg, is predicting “chaos” as the presidential election votes are tallied, Axios reports.

“We believe that on Election Night, we are going to see Donald Trump in a stronger position than the reality actually is,” Hawkfish CEO Josh Mendelsohn said, calling the phenomenon a “red mirage.”

That’s because Trump will win “potentially in a landslide” from in-person Election Day votes, “but lose a week later” as mail ballots are counted.


https://politicalwire.com/2020/08/31/democratic-firm-predicts-red-mirage-and-chaos/


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Democratic Firm Predicts 'Red Mirage' and 'Chaos' on Election Night (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2020 OP
Yeeeeeeaaaahhh- I don't know about all that. Alliepoo Aug 2020 #1
That's pretty horrifying. Laelth Aug 2020 #2
It seems very likely Trump will win the live vote SCantiGOP Aug 2020 #12
Based on the massive influx of trolls around the Internet sites I frequent (ahem) greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #3
This...see the link for more sketchy who knows Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #10
This is absurd. Trump will lose by at least 10 percent. He is a fool, a bigot, and killer. Stuart G Aug 2020 #4
Ten percent? Not a chance. RandySF Aug 2020 #14
Yes, there is a chance. Here is why. It has nothing to do with approval, Stuart G Aug 2020 #30
It is not a 10% country Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #34
Don't see it redstateblues Aug 2020 #5
Precisely why I'm voting in person SheltieLover Aug 2020 #6
So am I.. Stuart G Aug 2020 #7
Excellent! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #8
Same here Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #11
Yaaaay! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #20
Me too. Early, but in person. n/t Laelth Aug 2020 #17
Excellejt!!! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #22
I am voting in person on day 1 of early voting at 7am!!! Lisa0825 Aug 2020 #18
Go Lisa!!!! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #23
All I know is that this is becoming MuseRider Aug 2020 #9
Yes, you can, Muse! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #15
Trump will accept it because it will be totally clear he lost. Why? It won't be close. Why? Stuart G Aug 2020 #27
Trump will accept the outcome. It will be clear and obvious to all. Most of the U.S.A. Stuart G Aug 2020 #32
Do not let them get you down. You can do it. We are almost there. Believe! c-rational Aug 2020 #36
What worries me is if he "wins" on election nite, he will void any other votes as corrupt. mitch96 Aug 2020 #13
This is why I'm voting in person. SheltieLover Aug 2020 #16
He has no legal recourse to stop the counting of ballots...period!! Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #28
I feel he will do anything.. up to and including using Blackwater to get rid of the ballots..nt mitch96 Aug 2020 #33
We may need to double mask and WhiteTara Aug 2020 #19
Yup! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #25
I requested a mail in WhiteTara Aug 2020 #31
There will be a ton of absentee and mail-in ballots received and counted by election day gristy Aug 2020 #21
Let's all vote in person wherever it is allowed. DenverJared Aug 2020 #24
Absolutely! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #26
Yeah, I'll be voting in person too dustyscamp Aug 2020 #29
Many states are allowing mail-in and absentee ballots to be counted BlueIdaho Aug 2020 #35
Exactly. LisaL Aug 2020 #37
Bullshit RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #38

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
2. That's pretty horrifying.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:40 PM
Aug 2020

Sadly, it is supported by the data from a recent poll showing that Democrats are far more likely to vote by mail.



-Laelth

SCantiGOP

(13,865 posts)
12. It seems very likely Trump will win the live vote
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:51 PM
Aug 2020

That way FOX can declare him the winner and he can say that the election is over.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
3. Based on the massive influx of trolls around the Internet sites I frequent (ahem)
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:40 PM
Aug 2020

I expect similar hacking and nonsense as last time.

Thekaspervote

(32,710 posts)
10. This...see the link for more sketchy who knows
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:49 PM
Aug 2020

They pushed Biden to hire them, they said no

The article from Axios is a description of a bit of a jumbled organization that can’t quite make its mind up who they are


https://www.axios.com/biden-bloomberg-hawkfish-e8f79df6-475c-4077-bba2-3838e3008a11.html

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
4. This is absurd. Trump will lose by at least 10 percent. He is a fool, a bigot, and killer.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:41 PM
Aug 2020

...Our country has watched 180,000 people die, and the federal government did almost nothing. Trump leads the federal government ........and is responsible for .."almost nothing."

It is so obvious that Trump cares only about himself, that it won't be close. Too many republicans have openly stated that they will not vote for Trump. By 9:30pm ET the landslide will be clear to all, even though the West Coast hasn't even finished voting. I stated this earlier, but it will be truth.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
30. Yes, there is a chance. Here is why. It has nothing to do with approval,
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 09:07 PM
Aug 2020

or polls, or anything else.

When average people go into vote, they will think about the lies, and deaths; then they will say, "Let's give someone else a chance...enough."

Yes, Biden will win by at least 10 percent. Exact opposite of McGovern in 72. McGovern was a very incompetent campaigner and leader of Democrats.

...Trump is a total incompetent President of the United States. 180,000 deaths, many not necessary.

Who gets blamed for the federal government's incompetence?...not me, not you..Donald Trump that is who

....Trump will be a looser by 10 percent maybe more. not 55 just to 45..but maybe 60 to 40.. But I will be glad to admit that I am totally wrong on election night or the next day. Hey, I have admitted so before, and will again...................................................................................
.......................................................Will you be there to say you were wrong?

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
34. It is not a 10% country
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 09:50 PM
Aug 2020

For example, in 2018 Trump's approval rating was lower than now and the Democratic House margin was +8.4, despite 40 races unopposed by Republicans compared to only 3 races not contested by Democrats. That aspect alone really inflated the national gap.

I would accept victory by any margin

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
9. All I know is that this is becoming
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:48 PM
Aug 2020

more than I can take. I am the strongest person I know. When everyone else quits I am still going. I will pull people along, hold them up and still come back for more but this is almost the end of me. I do not know if it is because I am older but I do believe I will need sedation or a heavy intake of alcohol that night, enough to put me to sleep before a lot of results are in. I just cannot believe what I see every day and to see him in a landslide and have to listen to that offal until the other votes come in knowing full well he will not accept it, I just do not think I can do it this time.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
15. Yes, you can, Muse!
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:52 PM
Aug 2020

Time for me to drag you along.

Go read about Joe calling chumputin too weak, today in speech, to condemn Portland murderer.

Also, Yale is offering very popular course free: "Ecience of Well Being." People love yltuis course!

https://www.coursera.org/learn/the-science-of-well-being

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
27. Trump will accept it because it will be totally clear he lost. Why? It won't be close. Why?
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:57 PM
Aug 2020

He is a buffoon, a fool, a loud mouth, a liar, and most important......

Trump has had 3 1/2 years to prove the above to almost everyone..
..Trump lies about everything. Who really wants a liar on everything?.

Quote Donald Trump(not exact, but almost).."It will soon be over, a few deaths, and then it will be gone."

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
32. Trump will accept the outcome. It will be clear and obvious to all. Most of the U.S.A.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 09:16 PM
Aug 2020

will simply say, "Let's give someone else a chance, enough of Donald Trump"..........

Yes, it is that simple and pretty obvious.

mitch96

(13,871 posts)
13. What worries me is if he "wins" on election nite, he will void any other votes as corrupt.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:51 PM
Aug 2020

They will do anything to steal the election... He prolly has Putin's cheat sheet on hand on how to do it..
m

WhiteTara

(29,692 posts)
31. I requested a mail in
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 09:16 PM
Aug 2020

but I think that I will take it in and vote in person so that my vote will count that day. I'll most likely early vote because we can here.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
21. There will be a ton of absentee and mail-in ballots received and counted by election day
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:54 PM
Aug 2020

The smart people with access to the tabulation of both those votes and election-day votes can then project the winner on election night or at least within a couples days.

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
24. Let's all vote in person wherever it is allowed.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:56 PM
Aug 2020

Wear a face shield and mask and line up at 4 AM if there is no early voting.

dustyscamp

(2,223 posts)
29. Yeah, I'll be voting in person too
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 09:04 PM
Aug 2020

If I catch Covid and die so be it. My Friends, family and all the good people trying to get by deserve a better future

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
35. Many states are allowing mail-in and absentee ballots to be counted
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 09:55 PM
Aug 2020

As they come in. They will be reported at the close of polls. That could knock this theory into a cocked hat.

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