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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA- pollster, Emerson, has Trump "right side up" with likely voters on approval now..
still_one
(92,108 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,951 posts)There are other highly rated, or decently rated polls on 538 that are radically different.
I know Emerson is A rated by 538, but to be this different than other well regarded pollsters suggests something is amiss.
Even good professionals make errors.
I wonder if we're looking at one here.
DeminPennswoods
(15,270 posts)This is a poll of "likely voters". I'm guessing other polls have not yet switched from RVs. Every pollster has their own method for figuring out who is a "likely" voter. I think generally these LV models tend to capture older, more conservative voters who vote more consistently than younger and/or new voters.
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)It's just misinformation.
maxrandb
(15,310 posts)but I did see in the Emerson release they sent with this "poll" that it was a landline Poll using 2016 turnout model.
I don't think turnout will be anything like 2016.
Like we used to say in the Navy, the word "poll" can have multiple meaning, as in
"The poll was smoking", or "he was smoking poll".
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)it seems as if some want a close race, but I don't believe it is close.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)or delete this post.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)The others mostly say All Adults. Maybe Im misinterpreting something?
DeminPennswoods
(15,270 posts)Same as it does for the Rasmussen poll. See the key at the bottom of the chart.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)This is like the 6th or 7th thread about this horseshit poll
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)Amishman
(5,554 posts)If they get an unusual sample and hit both ends of the margin, you can get funky results like this.
Say reality is 44% approval, 50 disapproval. MoE is 3%, you can get a poll result of a tie at 47% and still be within that MoE.
It IS worth watching the trend though, as this is the poll with the most recent polling period, and we are seeing hot button political topics in the headlines (Kenosha + Portland). One poll is a fluke, half a dozen would be needed to make a trend.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)For reference, the Democratic nominee has been winning the urban vote from 9-28% since 2004.
The low number was Kerry at 9%. Hillary and Obama had gaps of 25+%
Suburbs have moved from GOP advantage, to even, and now to our side, but 21% is too much