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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo I just bought a package of Foster Farms chicken legs this morning
and now hear that one of their plants have been closed due to covid.
If I cook it on the grill am I safe?
Is there a way to find out where your chicken came from?
I had big plans for those legs......
Kali
(55,002 posts)but it may rain (knock on wood)
panader0
(25,816 posts)Filled up all the mud puddles in the road.
Kali
(55,002 posts)Saturday we had a half inch at the house, 8/10 about a mile up the canyon and 7/100 down where we actually need some rain
nice and cool today so far, but I hope we get some action this afternoon.
jcgoldie
(11,612 posts)Everything I've read says up to 2 or 3 days on hard surfaces but the food isn't an issue even though I find that somewhat counter-intuitive.
PJMcK
(21,995 posts)Covid-19 isn't "alive" so the moist surface of food is not a more attractive place for it than a restaurant table.
Groundhawg
(540 posts)Cook to proper temperature. The workers always wear gloves as well.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)Does cooking food kill coronavirus?
Again, while experts maintain that the new coronavirus is not a foodborne pathogen, it's still a good idea to cook food to the proper internal temperaturesand doing so would also likely reduce any amount of virus on the food, says Sheldon Campbell, MD, PhD, a Yale Medicine pathologist who is the associate director of Yale Medicines Clinical Microbiology Lab. There is, of course, on exception to that: [As long as] the food isnt contaminated by handling after it cools," he adds.
Urvish Patel, MPH, medical advisor for eMediHealth, explains that many viruses in general are heat-sensitive, and coronaviruses in particular tend to survive for shorter periods of time at higher temperatures and higher levels of humidity than in cooler, dryer environments. Of course, because SARS-CoV-2 is so new, there's no current data or studies to establish a temperature-based cutoff for inactivation, but that it will likely act very similarly to other coronaviruses.
Patel also adds that, because of this, "all measures should be taken care of considering standard guidelines for food cooking." According to the CDC, those proper temperature guidelines for cookingwhich not only prevent the growth of viruses but also bacteria on foodsinclude internal temperatures of:
145°F for whole cuts of beef, pork, veal, and lamb
160°F for ground meats, such as beef and pork
165°F for all poultry, including ground chicken and turkey
165°F for leftovers and casseroles
145°F for fresh ham (raw)
145°F for finfish or cook until flesh is opaque
efhmc
(14,723 posts)so follow what Sogo posted and enjoy your food.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)heat kills the virus so you should be ok.
WHO says 138 degrees F kills it and you know you're gonna get it a lot hotter.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,307 posts)LisaL
(44,972 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,307 posts)to not spend time worrying about it.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)Be careful with the packaging.
panader0
(25,816 posts)DBoon
(22,338 posts)your cooking process should reflect real risks.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,812 posts)Zero. Which is why all the sanitizing people are doing is essentially meaningless. You don't want to be breathing the same air as someone who is currently shedding the virus.
Kaleva
(36,246 posts)It's better to play it safe.
"The problem is we often can't definitively say how someone becomes infected, Dr Mackay points out.
Importantly, the risk is not zero and surface transmission could play a role when we see COVID-19 spread through a household.
When people become infected in a shared environment it's likely a mix of breathing and coughing around each other and touching the same surfaces, says Catherine Bennett, head of epidemiology at Deakin University.
While washing your hands is imperative when you use a surface immediately after someone, maintaining physical distance is just as important, Professor Bennett says."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-08-03/coronavirus-has-science-changed-surface-transmission-covid-19/12512720
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,812 posts)Just because they can detect some genetic material can be detected hours or days after someone has touched or perhaps coughed on the surface, is not the same as getting infected. If it were being passed that way it would have been blindingly obvious by now.
From that very article:
Kaleva
(36,246 posts)Earlier this year there was much debate if masks were effective or not. A few of us DUers bought masks, I bought masks in late January while they were still cheap and available , while others here kept saying masks were useless and there was no proof that they'd be effective against COVID-19.
Washing hands, using hand sanitizer when washing isn't doable and disinfecting surfaces is simple to do, doesn't take much time and it's now become routine for me.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,812 posts)and killing us all.
Kaleva
(36,246 posts)Our experience with COVID-19 doesn't have such a long history.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,812 posts)But the short history with Covid-19 does not show any cases of people contracting the virus from surfaces.
Even the re-infection possibility simply isn't that scary. I've seen one report where someone had it worse the second time, and another where the second time was asymptomatic. Actually, the whole asymptomatic thing is what is scary. It does look like the vast majority of those who get the virus have few or no symptoms although they can pass it on to others. Which is why everyone needs to wear masks and avoid large gatherings of people, especially indoors.
This is not going to go away very soon. That much I'm confident of.
Kaleva
(36,246 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,321 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,849 posts)Make sure you wash hands before & after touching the raw chicken, which you probably do anyway.
A little science to make you feel safe:
This virus denatures in air at 135°F in 15 minutes, or 900 seconds. 135°F is around 58°C.
The denaturation reactions are zero or first order. Because of this, the reaction rate doubles every 10°C.
Say your cooking temperature is 375°F, or around 190°C.
This is 13 ten degree increments.
The reaction rate increases by 2^13, or 8,192 fold.
At 375°F, if would take under 100 milliseconds to fully denature the virus.
Pretty sure you're not cooking your chicken for under a tenth of a second!
Cook it, and you'll be safe!