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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSobering comment from Obama's pollster.
Obama pollster Cornell Belcher went on Pod Save America and said that, right now, all of our specific policy issues are secondary because the election is 'literally a matter of life and death for our democracy' and nothing is going to matter if Trump wins a second term.
Me.
(35,454 posts)PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Each day feels like one step forward, two steps back and another to the right for good measure.
If Trump wins/steals the election, all of what we know will be over in a short period of time.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)if not, then everything matters. Charlie Cook says that what no pollster will tell you is that Trump cannot possibly win the electoral college.
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)Too many things can happen to sway voters between now & then. Riots help him. Like it or not.
Me.
(35,454 posts)The discussion always seems to be that he has the upper hand, that any bad news that comes will be for Joe. What if the economy tanks, worse than it? That predictions of more deaths come true? What if he has a medical incident that cannot be denied? THat the October surprise is for him?
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)ESPECIALLY health. He reminds me of those people who refuse to listen to their doctors.
Me.
(35,454 posts)nothing sticks to this man. He makes Teflon look like glue. Reagan was Teflon. Trump is some substance that hasn't been invented yet. Something comes at him and he makes it do a U-turn and hit whatever it came from like a damn boomerang.
Me.
(35,454 posts)and when Reagan should've been settling into sweet retirement....you never know where faye has you on the bulletin board.
nothing sticks to this man. He makes Teflon look like glue. Reagan was Teflon. Trump is some substance that hasn't been invented yet. Something comes at him and he makes it do a U-turn and hit whatever it came from like a damn boomerang.
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)dchill
(38,492 posts)As Joe Biden was preparing to give his presidential nomination acceptance speech Thursday night, for me like so many others it was a time to reflect on where the race stands. I was thinking about the the Hans Christian Anderson fable The Emperors New Clothes, which many have cited in writings and cartoons criticizing President Trump. Each has put a slightly different contemporary spin on the 1837 story, in which a pair of swindlers convince a vain king that they could weave fabulous clothes for him with a magic fabric that could not be seen by anyone who was stupid or incompetent. The king commissioned the faux-tailors to make him a suit of clothes, checking on their work, watching the pair at their looms as they pretended to weave, not letting on that he could not see the fabric, lest people think him a fool. Once presented with the clothes, he strutted through the streets wearing nothing, no one letting on that they, too, could not see the clothes. Finally, a young boy cries out, But he has nothing on!
I think about the story in the context of this election, but not in a way that compares Trump to the king. Rather, I think about it in terms of the political analysts, pollsters, and pundits who refuse to state publicly what the data plainly show: that it is very, very unlikely Trump will win 270 electoral votes and the election.
https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/many-are-afraid-say-it-not-close-race
The Resource Trap
https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/resource-trap
Approve or Not, Trump Is Setting Unfavorable Downballot Conditions
https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/approve-or-not-trump-setting-unfavorable-downballot-conditions
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)Good things to reflect on during the next couple of months.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)If Biden loses, nobody's agenda is worth 2 cents anyway.
brush
(53,778 posts)and the need to get trump out, which is much different than Michael Moore predicting, as he usually does every four years, that repugs will win the WH.
PunkinPi
(4,875 posts)brush
(53,778 posts)Work to get out the vote, donate, phone bank, do data entry, do voter registration if it's save to do considering the virus, same holds for canvassing.
We must get the fascist dictator wannabe out.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)Cha
(297,224 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)and all we can do is vote.
RandySF
(58,823 posts)Neighbors
PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)Getting Trump out is Job #1. All else pales beside that. We have to get rid of Trump.
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Initech
(100,075 posts)We have to stop this at all costs!!
oldsoftie
(12,536 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)We must however defeat him now
Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)Then it will be time to clean up the mess and get the country back on track. Therell be lots to do in the Biden-Harris first term.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)UserNotFound
(108 posts)That most people understand how important your observation really is.
It'll take years for our country to recover as it is; another 4 years of tRump? Things are gonna get ugly...
cheezmaka
(737 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:27 PM - Edit history (1)
And keep "complacent" Democrats from "staying home" or not voting in November due to thinking Biden has it IN THE BAG...
Kaleva
(36,301 posts)It'd be interesting to observe Cornell Belcher for a week or two and see if he is taking any actions that would lead one to believe that he thinks there is a possible major catastrophe on the the horizon heading towards us or is he behaving in a way one would expect if it was 1976 and we were working to defeat Gerald Ford.
dalton99a
(81,486 posts)which are not illegal
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)The future of democracy in this country is at stake.
We must vote like future of the country depends on it - because it does.
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)The argument cant be that its the end of the world if Trump wins. Some people want something to hang on to.