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Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:40 PM

Dem group warns of apparent Trump Election Day landslide (followed a Week by a Biden Win)

If true, this will be devastating for all of us! I think Trump knows it's likely and is why the USPS is being sabotaged. I think it is also why Hillary Clintom warned Biden publicly not to concede until ALL the votes are counted.

https://www.axios.com/bloomberg-group-trump-election-night-scenarios-a554e8f5-9702-437e-ae75-d2be478d42bb.html

A top Democratic data and analytics firm told "Axios on HBO" it's highly likely that President Trump will appear to have won — potentially in a landslide — on election night, even if he ultimately loses when all the votes are counted.

Why this matters: Way more Democrats will vote by mail than Republicans, due to fears of the coronavirus, and it will take days if not weeks to tally these. This means Trump, thanks to Republicans doing almost all of their voting in person, could hold big electoral college and popular vote leads on election night.

Imagine America, with its polarization and misinformation, if the vote tally swings wildly toward Joe Biden and Trump loses days later as the mail ballots are counted.
That is what this group, Hawkfish, which is funded by Michael Bloomberg and also does work for the Democratic National Committee and pro-Biden Super PACs, is warning is a very real, if not foreordained, outcome.

What they're saying: Hawkfish CEO Josh Mendelsohn calls the scenario a "red mirage."

"We are sounding an alarm and saying that this is a very real possibility, that the data is going to show on election night an incredible victory for Donald Trump," he said.
"When every legitimate vote is tallied and we get to that final day, which will be some day after Election Day, it will in fact show that what happened on election night was exactly that, a mirage," Mendelsohn said. "It looked like Donald Trump was in the lead and he fundamentally was not when every ballot gets counted."

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Reply Dem group warns of apparent Trump Election Day landslide (followed a Week by a Biden Win) (Original post)
Silver1 Sep 2020 OP
SoonerPride Sep 2020 #1
Silver1 Sep 2020 #3
jcmaine72 Sep 2020 #8
Ilsa Sep 2020 #2
Silver1 Sep 2020 #4
Bleacher Creature Sep 2020 #5
onetexan Sep 2020 #6
jcmaine72 Sep 2020 #7
Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #9
DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #10
Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #12
DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #13
Kaleva Sep 2020 #11
DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #14

Response to Silver1 (Original post)

Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:43 PM

1. It's not over until the election is verified

I don’t care what ABC says at 11pm On 11/3

Why is this such a worry?

It doesn’t worry me in the least

Trump was always going to say he won no matter what the vote tallies are

Who cares what he claims?

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:51 PM

3. It's that it would be best if the results were known quickly like thy usually are.

A week is a long time and a lot of opportunity to create more chaos.

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:12 AM

8. Sensible people certainly won't care what he claims.

But we seem to be in short supply of those in Dump's Murica.

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Response to Silver1 (Original post)

Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:45 PM

2. I'm able to safely vote on election day, so that

helps the Democratic numbers immediately.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 1, 2020, 09:51 PM

4. That's good.

I have to mail-in. But I'm in a blue state ...

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Response to Silver1 (Original post)

Tue Sep 1, 2020, 10:06 PM

5. The solution to this is easy - vote EARLY! nt

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:59 AM

6. Yes,but that Biden should not concede till all votes are counted, as Hillary said

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Response to Silver1 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:07 AM

7. Prefect pretext for Dotard to reject the election results and refuse to leave the WH

That's okay. That's why military escorts exist.

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Response to Silver1 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:44 AM

9. So ballots received through the mail aren't counted as they are received?

If so, when on election would they be counted?

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Response to Buckeyeblue (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:51 AM

10. Depends on the state

In PA, absentee ballots can't be opened and counted until the polls close at 8PM. Gov Wolf is asking our R controlled state legislature to amend our election law to allow the absentee ballots to be "canvassed" before the election, that is the county election officials can verify voters and signatures on the outer envelop and sort the sealed ballot envelopes. He's also asking that ballots post-marked, but not received, by election day be counted. We had a test run in our primary back in June where there were a lot of absentee ballots and it went pretty smoothly. We even had a race where it looked like a win for a Pgh Dem, but after the mailed ballots were counted, a Phila Dem won. But that was only a day later.

O'Donnell. iirc, last night said MA opens and counts ballots as soon as they are received. That's why the Markey and Neal wins were called pretty quickly.

Anyway, how long did we wait in 2000 until FL was ultimately awarded to Bush by the Supreme Court?

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 07:54 AM

12. I think the longer it drags out the easier it is to steal

I wonder if we should encourage Democrats who can vote in person to do so. While I like the idea of voting by mail, I don't like it with this administration.

I'm not willing to depend on John Roberts as the swing vote for a contested election.

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Response to Buckeyeblue (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:59 PM

13. Trump(ers) would sure make a big fuss

Where I am, it's no problem to go to the poll. In June, my county had all the polls open and fully staffed.

The biggest issue will be in the big and biggest urban areas, Pgh and Phila. Pgh could open PPG Arena (Lower Hill District), the Peterson Events Center (Oakland, UPitt), Palumbo Center (Duquesne U) and perhaps the gyms at Point Park U and Chatham U as consolidated polling places. I think the largest absentee ballots will be from Phila though. Then again, they also have a lot of large facilities like the Wells Fargo Center, Liacourus Center (Temple), Palestra (Penn), LaSalle, Drexel, Phila U (Textile) - all accessible via SEPTA bus or El. Lurie has already offered Lincoln Financial Field as a consolidated poll although I don't know where the polls would be as the field is open air, maybe in the concourses.

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Response to Silver1 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 06:13 AM

11. RNC is really pushing for voters in MI to vote by mail

I'm getting flyers and robocalls.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:00 PM

14. That's why I don't get the push against mailed ballots

The Rs have always encouraged this as a good way to vote.

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