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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,766 posts)
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 11:49 PM Sep 2020

AP FACT CHECK: Trump misstates what happened in Kenosha

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is not waiting for a trial to sort out what happened on the streets of Kenosha, Wisconsin, where prosecutors say a 17-year-old with a semi-automatic rifle fatally shot two men on a night of protest and violence. He’s giving an account at odds with the authorities who charged Kyle Rittenhouse with homicide.

In remarks surrounding and during his trip Tuesday to Kenosha, Trump also falsely claimed credit for National Guard deployments that he actually did not authorize. Wisconsin's Democratic governor did.

TRUMP, asked if was going to condemn the actions of Rittenhouse: “We’re looking at all of it. And that was an interesting situation. You saw the same tape as I saw. And he was trying to get away from them, I guess; it looks like. And he fell, and then they very violently attacked him. And it was something that we’re looking at right now and it’s under investigation. But I guess he was in very big trouble. He would have been — I — he probably would have been killed.” — news conference Monday before traveling to Kenosha on Tuesday.

THE FACTS: His implication that Rittenhouse only shot the men after he tripped and they attacked him is wrong. The first fatal shooting happened before Rittenhouse ran away and fell.

Trump did not say whom he meant by “they” — the two men he shot or others in pursuit of him. But he spoke in defense of someone who opposed racial-justice protesters, who authorities say was illegally carrying a semi-automatic rifle and who prosecutors accuse of committing intentional homicide.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ap-fact-check-trump-misstates-what-happened-in-kenosha/ar-BB18BgT5?li=BBnb7Kz

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AP FACT CHECK: Trump misstates what happened in Kenosha (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2020 OP
His brain no longer processes information like a normal brain. brush Sep 2020 #1
Did his brain EVER... 3catwoman3 Sep 2020 #3
Yep, that's the term I was looking for. brush Sep 2020 #8
But if you don't test, there'll be no new cases! dchill Sep 2020 #2
and he did it with the fucking attorney general of the usa by his side spanone Sep 2020 #4
Is this known for sure now, that the events of the video are positively after he'd already shot mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #5
He shot one guy in the head, called someone to say he'd just killed a guy, and then tblue37 Sep 2020 #7
Do you have a link to a high-quality source that's saying that like NYT/WaPo perchance? nt mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #9
There are videos, including one with a second by second analysis. nt tblue37 Sep 2020 #10
There's video of the first murder before the take-down when persons 2 & 3 were shot? mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #11
Yes. You see the victim and the shooter disappear around cars, and then you hear shots. tblue37 Sep 2020 #12
Here is one video with a moment by moment breakdown. It's not the one with the close up of the tblue37 Sep 2020 #13
Here is the close-up video of the first shooting. The close-up is at the end. It is graphic, though. tblue37 Sep 2020 #14
Thanks. Seems pretty cut and dry that Rittenhouse wasn't being tackled or attacked or what not mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #15
Perhaps Trump made his version to muddy the future jury pool. no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 #6

brush

(53,743 posts)
1. His brain no longer processes information like a normal brain.
Tue Sep 1, 2020, 11:56 PM
Sep 2020

Anyone who saw the video of that teenage thug saw that he was being chased because he had just gunned down one guy, fell while being chased and then gunned down two more people. It's all on tape but trump interprets the tape as the killer being attacked.

His lucidity is no longer there.

3catwoman3

(23,951 posts)
3. Did his brain EVER...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:25 AM
Sep 2020

...process information normally? Everything is filtered thru the lens of his malignant narcissism.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. Is this known for sure now, that the events of the video are positively after he'd already shot
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:37 AM
Sep 2020

someone?

I thought there was still some question as to the order of events, last I read.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
7. He shot one guy in the head, called someone to say he'd just killed a guy, and then
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:57 AM
Sep 2020

started running. People started chasing him and yelling that he'd shot someone. Then he fell and shot two more people.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. There's video of the first murder before the take-down when persons 2 & 3 were shot?
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 03:25 AM
Sep 2020

I was not aware of that.

Is there a link?

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
12. Yes. You see the victim and the shooter disappear around cars, and then you hear shots.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:18 AM
Sep 2020

Then you see Rittenhouse standing and looking at the victim. Someone else takes off his own site and used it to staunch the blood pouring from the victim's head, and the victim's own shirt is also used for that. There's a close-up view of the victim with the head wound. This is the first one who died. After looking at the victim, Rittenhouse calls someone on his cellphone and says, "I just killed a guy." He then starts running, and several people chase him while shouting that he'd just shot someone.

I'll try to locate that video again.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
13. Here is one video with a moment by moment breakdown. It's not the one with the close up of the
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:28 AM
Sep 2020

first victim's head wound, but it does have that shooting. I will also try to find the one where you can see the head wound.

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/second-by-second-breakdown-of-the-deadly-kenosha-wis-shooting-by-teen-90808389636

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
15. Thanks. Seems pretty cut and dry that Rittenhouse wasn't being tackled or attacked or what not
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 11:38 AM
Sep 2020

when he executed the first person.

That's what I wanted to be clear about. I argue with dipshit RW'ers on the FB all the damn time, I hate putting out anything that turns out to be incorrect.

no_hypocrisy

(46,038 posts)
6. Perhaps Trump made his version to muddy the future jury pool.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:50 AM
Sep 2020

To make sure that there is no conviction for Rittenhouse.

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