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StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:46 PM Sep 2020

Vigilantes who drive far from home looking for people to murder are not heroes.

Kyle Rittenhouse was not defending his castle. He wasn't defending his own neighborhood. He wasn't defending his own town, or even his own state. He went looking for trouble, and he found it. He wound up murdering two people and injuring a third.

Their line seems to be that he was defending himself from a "terrorist with a skateboard", and he just happened to have an assault rifle with him. So he's a vigilante hero for killing protesters that he just happened to point his gun at and shoot because he got scared!! His victims were not innocent, did you not see the skateboard?!

This is straight bullshit. He's a murderer who should spend the next 50 years of his VERY young life in prison for the horrible mistake he made. Bye, boy. You fucked up.

Kyle's not a hero. He's a murderous asshole who deserves the prison time he's about to get. No excuses. Rule of law. Bye.


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Vigilantes who drive far from home looking for people to murder are not heroes. (Original Post) StrictlyRockers Sep 2020 OP
They.Are.Terrorists! ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #1
Just saw this quote, and I'm going to remember it and use it. StrictlyRockers Sep 2020 #3
I Like It! ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #6
The absolute worst thing I've heard about Rittenhouse is that his MOTHER drove him there! The napi21 Sep 2020 #2
Who do you think gave him the gun or let him have one? Nevilledog Sep 2020 #4
Where have you heard that? sl8 Sep 2020 #5
It's Still Unclear ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #8
Can you provide a link to that picture? sl8 Sep 2020 #9
Try This ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #12
So, that fact check says '"false" sl8 Sep 2020 #13
My Error. I Misread ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #14
Here is a link to article. I originally heard it on qan MSNBC news program but I can't find now. napi21 Sep 2020 #16
Thanks. sl8 Sep 2020 #18
Yup. Charge everybody involved, Mom for complicity and tRUMP for incitement... abqtommy Sep 2020 #7
I've only seen that here. cwydro Sep 2020 #17
They're not vigilantes, either. Jeebo Sep 2020 #10
Call them what they are... Sedona Sep 2020 #11
Yes, this asshole should not be celebrated! He is a murderer, plain and simple. Initech Sep 2020 #15

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
1. They.Are.Terrorists!
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:57 PM
Sep 2020

Crossing state lines, armed to the teeth, provoking trouble with political motivations is terrorism.
Not heroism or patriotism.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
3. Just saw this quote, and I'm going to remember it and use it.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:12 PM
Sep 2020

Trump supporters are saying that - "It's not OK to vandalize stuff in reaction to people getting killed, but it's OK to kill people in reaction to people vandalizing stuff."

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. The absolute worst thing I've heard about Rittenhouse is that his MOTHER drove him there! The
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:04 PM
Sep 2020

killing was not only done by him, it was mama too! Just as the getaway car driver is guilty of the bank robbery, so is SHE guilty of murder!

sl8

(13,735 posts)
5. Where have you heard that?
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:21 PM
Sep 2020

I've seen the same thing posted at least a dozen times here at DU, but never a response when the poster is asked for a source.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
8. It's Still Unclear
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:32 PM
Sep 2020

His statement says he stayed in Kenosha from the night before after volunteering as a lifeguard. How he got there the day before is unexplained.
But, USA today had a pic yesterday of his mom, in fatigues and armed, at a counterprotest in Madison a couple days before.
So, she's obviously pro-violence. It would not be surprising that she chauferred him to & from.

sl8

(13,735 posts)
9. Can you provide a link to that picture?
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:37 PM
Sep 2020

Because we also had a picture of "his mom" (on DU), in fatigues and in Madison, that turned to be bogus. The poster did delete it after it was pointed out that it was false.

On edit:
Regarding her driving him, assuming she did drive him to Kenosha, did she drive him to work, or drive him to the protest?

It would not be surprising to me, either, if she chauffered him to & from, but since I don't know, I avoid stating that she did (or didn't).

If we don't know whether or not she drove him, do you think it's appropriate for people to keep posting that she did.?


ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
12. Try This
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:56 PM
Sep 2020

USA Today, yesterday.
I don't know if the picture of her is there, but it's a fact check piece rebutting that she was in Kenosha.
They have issued no correction about ID'ing her in Madison.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/01/fact-check-photo-doesnt-show-kyle-rittenhouses-armed-mom-kenosha/5682081002/

sl8

(13,735 posts)
13. So, that fact check says '"false"
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:01 PM
Sep 2020

I'm not sure I'm getting your point. They say that that's not a picture of Rittenhouse's mother.

It’s unknown whether Rittenhouse’s mother had any involvement in bringing her son to Kenosha that day — but the image alleging to be mother and son is a fabrication, using a photo from a different place and time.

Our ruling: False
A composite photo purported to be Kyle Rittenhouse's mother, Wendy, is not her. It is an image from a protest in Madison, not from a Kenosha protest. It’s cropped from a larger image of a handful of people with guns standing outside the state capitol two days earlier. We rate the claim FALSE.

sl8

(13,735 posts)
18. Thanks.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:55 PM
Sep 2020

Appreciate the response.

Doesn't really say much. "These are the questions some are asking ...",and "Some believe ..." . The whole "article" is a mix of quotes of social media and speculation. One of the tweets listed, the one with the bogus picture of the mom, has since been deleted.

Was there something in particular at that link that you found credible?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
17. I've only seen that here.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:54 PM
Sep 2020

I have no idea if she did or not, but I’ve seen no link to it.

An ABC news clip said he worked in Kenosha, lived about 20 miles away, and an adult moron gave him the gun in Kenosha.

Jeebo

(2,023 posts)
10. They're not vigilantes, either.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:46 PM
Sep 2020

I probably should look up the dictionary definition of the word before posting these comments, but I'm just going with what I've always understood that word to mean. A vigilante is somebody who has some moral or ethical or perhaps even legal justification for his or her extralegal violence. The people he goes after are thugs who deserve what they get. Like in that Charles Bronson movie. That boy, on the other hand, has NO such justification for what he did. He's just a murderer and a thug himself. He's the kind of person true vigilantes go after. He's not at the VIGILANTE end of the vigilante-thug interaction, he's at the THUG end.

-- Ron

Initech

(100,063 posts)
15. Yes, this asshole should not be celebrated! He is a murderer, plain and simple.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:18 PM
Sep 2020

And he should be treated the way we normally treat murderers. And neither should those assholes from St. Louis be celebrated, nor should that smirking douchebag from Kentucky. These people are violent, attention seeking pieces of shit, and should not be rewarded for their bad behavior.

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