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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWell, this Nate Silver chart punctuates the importance of GOTV.
Link to tweet
Chance of a Biden Electoral college win if he wins the popular vote by X points:
0-1 points: just 6%!
1-2 points: 22%
2-3 points: 46%
3-4 points: 74%
4-5 points: 89%
5-6 points: 98%
6-7 points: 99%
12:11 PM · Sep 2, 2020
Botany
(70,504 posts)n/t
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,760 posts)The best thing for our country is a huge turnout of voters.
Time to clean house.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)This needs to be a overwhelming defeat of the GOP.
MANative
(4,112 posts)Link to tweet
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Discussing leads in CA, MA, NY that far outstrip Obama's wins. Piling on in these huge blue states doesn't help in the EC battle, unfortunately.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I'm starting to think some of you really do want to lose. You're really getting nightmare fuel out of something that has a 1% chance of happening?
MANative
(4,112 posts)Read all of Nate's analysis on this. It's terrifying. Joe can have that 7 point lead in head-to-head polls, but because the margin is so huge in the big blue states, it doesn't translate to winning the swing states needed to get over the EC hurdle. Many swing state polls are still much closer than I'd like them to be, especially in the larger states like FL and TX where we could get a bigger chunk of the EC votes. 10 from MN is not going to cut it.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Are you just purposely ignoring Nate's initial tweet where Biden winning by 7% gives him a 99% chance of winning the EC?
If you're going to dwell on something that has a one-percent chance of happening, do it in private.
MANative
(4,112 posts)That suggests to me that it's a disclaimer, at least. My opinion is just as valid as any other poster's.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)And there's no point in worrying over something that crazy. 99% chance is pretty fucking good in my book.
BannonsLiver
(16,384 posts)Doom is in around here. Even when its irrational
BannonsLiver
(16,384 posts)Theyre not weighted disproportionately toward blue states, as you suggest.
MANative
(4,112 posts)most of us do about polling and statistics. Not saying he's infallible, by any stretch, but it's not nothing, either.
Thekaspervote
(32,765 posts)Remember the dem primary? After 2 caucus nights silver calls it for sanders winning 49 states, despite sanders vote count being down 15% from 16 and no youth vote!
Silver wants a horse race too...keeps the money coming in as you return again and again to his site.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)46% chance would still likely be significantly larger than Trump's chance of winning if Biden won the popular vote by that amount.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Hillary was <1% at 0-1, if I remember correctly. I remember seeing that and being numbed.
The national polls are very helpful but like a pointspread in betting. The spread is essentially -3.5. Trump is closer to a back door cover than it appears.
However, this should serve to dispel the nonsense that Trump could win the national vote by huge margin and still squeak out the electoral college. It is clear that 5 points is extraordinarily safe. But that 5 points won't be evident early on election night. Trump will be leading the popular vote. The big numbers don't come later until the West and particularly California are heard from.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)a bump up to even 3% would almost certainly be a win for Biden
And Kaine was not much of a charismatic running mate, imho
Kamala is kick-ass and an amazing addition to the ticket!