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madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:47 AM Sep 2020

Update on Melania and Me.

I’m now halfway through this book. It is hard to put down because each page leaves you wondering what fiasco you will be reading about next.

However, the real point of my post is that this book could have had another title:

“Ivanka is a Manipulative B****h”

Mary Trump and her aunt are right, Ivanka is all about Ivanka. A mini-Donald.

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Update on Melania and Me. (Original Post) madaboutharry Sep 2020 OP
Of course she is mercuryblues Sep 2020 #1
This whole family is going to be writing tell all books about each other JI7 Sep 2020 #2
Since Idiot Jr. and Iskanka both have aspirations of becoming president in 2024, Tanuki Sep 2020 #13
Don't forget that self-entitled SOB Jared! He see himself as #47. NCjack Sep 2020 #24
My theory is that if/when Trump loses the Election, all Trumps will gang up on Jared Kushner. no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 #3
I ordered her book yesterday.. i still havent read my copy of Mary Trumps book and my.. samnsara Sep 2020 #4
I bought Mary's book for my son-in-law's birthday, then worried that maybe he wouldn't like it. Frustratedlady Sep 2020 #6
The enrire Trump family is toxic. NCDem47 Sep 2020 #5
Do authorities allow for fashionable handbags in prison? NNadir Sep 2020 #7
Knock-off bags are probably ok... Blue_playwright Sep 2020 #12
I think Ivanka got that from both parents PatSeg Sep 2020 #8
Yes, I got that too, from her book. luvtheGWN Sep 2020 #15
It was really a well written book PatSeg Sep 2020 #18
Mary describes Ivana not only as garish and selfish, madaboutharry Sep 2020 #21
Yes PatSeg Sep 2020 #25
curious sheilahi Sep 2020 #9
That was asked during a TV interview. BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #11
Yeah, let's go with that one... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #22
MF45 was speaking to Ivanka, who was directly behind Melania. CottonBear Sep 2020 #19
I used to feel sorry for Melania vlyons Sep 2020 #10
People the world over crave to see them get theirs.... jaxexpat Sep 2020 #16
she is daddy's little princess and she can do no wrong...now the state of new york dawn5651 Sep 2020 #14
More like daddy's little depraved sex fantasy n/t ET Awful Sep 2020 #17
I haven't, nor will I, read one word of a book about this trashy family. It will defile my beautiful CTyankee Sep 2020 #20
This administration sure has had a lot of best sellers among those who have been close to it. NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #28
I think that's a given with any Trump... SergeStorms Sep 2020 #23
thanks serge sheilahi Sep 2020 #27
Based on Mary Trump's stories GopherGal Sep 2020 #29
Let us know when you get to the inauguration fund/catering scam part Brother Buzz Sep 2020 #26
Hope Hicks originally worked for Ivanka, and then Ivanka recommended her Tanuki Sep 2020 #30

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
1. Of course she is
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:58 AM
Sep 2020

They all are. Even Tiffany recently jumped on the gaslighting band wagon. I wish the youngest son the very best, I really do. But given the family dynamics and the selfish, lying, racists POS his family and siblings are, I don't hold out much hope for him. Any money he inherits will come from the deaths of many people all over the world. It will be from the scams trumps took part in, trading personal favors for him with other governments that allowed them to commit genocide and murders. that allowed for children to be kidnapped from their parents.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
2. This whole family is going to be writing tell all books about each other
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:00 AM
Sep 2020

I want them all out of the white house and then I want to enjoy them going after each other.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
13. Since Idiot Jr. and Iskanka both have aspirations of becoming president in 2024,
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:15 AM
Sep 2020

they will definitely be stabbing one another in the back behind the scenes, even if they don't trash each other in print. Eric's wife is extremely ambitious and manipulative, so she will try to carve out something in her own perceived best interest as well. I wish the whole rotten pack would vanish into the ether or prison, never to be heard from or spoken of again. What a brood of vipers.

no_hypocrisy

(46,097 posts)
3. My theory is that if/when Trump loses the Election, all Trumps will gang up on Jared Kushner.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:02 AM
Sep 2020

And Ivanka will file for a divorce from him. Because he didn't deliver The Goods.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
4. I ordered her book yesterday.. i still havent read my copy of Mary Trumps book and my..
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:06 AM
Sep 2020

...first edition autographed copy of Cohen's book is coming any day.



I best get busy reading!

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
6. I bought Mary's book for my son-in-law's birthday, then worried that maybe he wouldn't like it.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:24 AM
Sep 2020

He finished it yesterday and loved it. I won't repeat what he called The Donald, but it certainly expressed both our views.

I should be getting a call on Michael Cohen's book next.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
5. The enrire Trump family is toxic.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:10 AM
Sep 2020

Clearly there is a culture of dog-eat-dog within that cesspool that will never change. Prisoners of their own hate and greed which is passed from one generation to the next.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
8. I think Ivanka got that from both parents
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:39 AM
Sep 2020

In Mary Trump's book, Ivana also came across as self-centered and manipulative. She rather sounded like a spoiled mafia wife.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
15. Yes, I got that too, from her book.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:30 AM
Sep 2020

Ivana was the only one of her uncle's wives who she dissed. Marla was friendly. Melania was basically mute.

The best thing about Mary Trump's book was that she delved into the whys and hows Donald became what he is.

It's a very well written treatise on Trump family dynamics. I give it 5 stars.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
18. It was really a well written book
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:53 AM
Sep 2020

and I got a better overview of the different Trumps. Ivana immediately jumped off the page as the type of person I've known - cheap, garish, tacky, and self-absorbed. Clearly someone with more humble roots, who exemplified nouveau riche.

madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
21. Mary describes Ivana not only as garish and selfish,
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 11:21 AM
Sep 2020

but as cheap and void of any form of generosity. Ivana would swoop into “the house”, looking her nose down on everyone and bring cheap and recycled gifts. She once for Christmas gave Mary, who was a teenager at the time, a corporate gift basket with the caviar missing.

Mary’s talks about how the rich are notorious grifters. Melania is also a grifter. Take. take. And take some more.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
25. Yes
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 11:41 AM
Sep 2020

I couldn't believe the tacky re-gifting, especially considering that Ivanka could afford to give decent presents. The gift basket minus the caviar was so low and being it was obvious as well as cheap, it was like she was sending a message - "This is all you're worth to us".

Over time, we've given some of the Trumps the benefit of the doubt, but eventually they all turn out to be the same rotten, self-centered jerks. So far, Barron is the only one left that there is any hope for, but I fear that this nasty family will ruin him as well. What a rotten world for a kid to be raised in.

sheilahi

(277 posts)
9. curious
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:42 AM
Sep 2020

Haven't gotten the book yet but REALLY looking forward to it. Just curious, does she tell why Melania has that sad sad look on her face at the inauguration after he turns around and says something to her? My first thought was "now THERE'S an abused woman".

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
11. That was asked during a TV interview.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:46 AM
Sep 2020

She said that Barron accidentally kicked her ankle and that is why she suddenly scowled.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
19. MF45 was speaking to Ivanka, who was directly behind Melania.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:58 AM
Sep 2020

Ivanka was mouthing words to MF45 over Melania’s shoulder.

Melania only “smiled” because MF45 turned around and she was right behind him.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
10. I used to feel sorry for Melania
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:44 AM
Sep 2020

But then, she IS a gold-digger, who chose to marry him for what she thought was money, power, and position. She could chose to walk away from it all, yet remains. So I no longer feel sorry for her.

I predict that post-Trump, either Biden's AG, or the new Dem congress & senate will appoint a special prosecutor to conduct an independent criminal investigation into Trump's crimes and his grifter sycophants' crimes. No one is above the law, and they will get Trump's tax returns. He will be charged with obstruction of justice, running a criminal enterprise, money laundering, tax and mail fraud, bribery, and god knows what else.

I look forward to the day when he gets his first 3 minute prison haircut with electric clippers. Buzz buzz buzz. Goodbye comb-over pompedor. Hello 23 hours a day in a solitary gray walled cell with nothing to do, and no one to cheer and flatter.

jaxexpat

(6,823 posts)
16. People the world over crave to see them get theirs....
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:33 AM
Sep 2020

As one lost in a desert craves water. This drama is not yet finished. The worm still turns.

dawn5651

(603 posts)
14. she is daddy's little princess and she can do no wrong...now the state of new york
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:15 AM
Sep 2020

needs to move forward with charges because she is as dirty as her brothers and daddy

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
20. I haven't, nor will I, read one word of a book about this trashy family. It will defile my beautiful
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 11:21 AM
Sep 2020

mind.

What I do read, and this scares me, are scenarios laid out in the NYT Opinion section on Sunday, of ways Trump can (or at least can TRY) to subvert the election and declare himself the winner, even if he loses.

This is not fantasy stuff. Yes, it is theorizing but as a "wise fear." However, I feel like the bejesus has been scared out of me.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
28. This administration sure has had a lot of best sellers among those who have been close to it.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 11:52 AM
Sep 2020

I haven't read any of them and none of the reports on their contents have been surprising in the least.
I wish tRump supporters would start reading them but maybe it wouldn't make a difference to them anyway.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
23. I think that's a given with any Trump...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 11:26 AM
Sep 2020

although I'm sure the plastic fantastic daughter/wife is better at it than her other siblings. She learned at an early age that just by grinding on Daddy's lap she could get anything she wanted. Eric tried the same thing, but all he got were extra-large gums.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
29. Based on Mary Trump's stories
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:15 PM
Sep 2020

Fred Sr.'s MO was to pit his two eldest sons against each other for his favor. Shitstain won that contest by making himself into a little mini-sociopath in the model of his father, so of course he pits his kids against each other in a similar contest. But, plot twist! he lets the girl compete too; why have 2 kids compete for your attention when you can have all 3! And Ivanka figured out that she can use his lust for his gender-swapped mini-me as an advantage in the sibling-rivalry games.

Even if Ivanka were the poor put-upon daughter with an embarrassing father who likes to sneak into Miss Teen USA changing rooms (and whose school friends' mothers would have done well to forbid them to attend her sleepovers if her father was home), her relationship with the gold-digging step mother(s) would not likely be warm. Throw in her use of her father's lust for her as a tool for her own gain and you get what we saw on stage at the RNC.

The whole nest of vipers seemingly deserve each other.

Brother Buzz

(36,426 posts)
26. Let us know when you get to the inauguration fund/catering scam part
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 11:43 AM
Sep 2020

I understand the caterer was a friend of Melania, but Ivanka inserted herself into it and corrupted the whole thing.

I believe it's safe to assume Ivanka would have no problems throwing Malania under the train when the judgment day comes.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
30. Hope Hicks originally worked for Ivanka, and then Ivanka recommended her
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 10:47 PM
Sep 2020

to her dad. I have always suspected that she knew Hope was his "type" and placed her in his inner circle to try to drive a wedge between him and Melania.

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