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lostnfound

(16,178 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:02 AM Sep 2020

"Perception is reality" meets the age of Facebook

To those of us that read the Democratic Underground, watch MSNBC, and/or read the Washington Post, it may look like the election is in the bag for Joe Biden, and that no sane person would vote for Donald Trump.

The Facebook feeds that our neighbors and estranged relatives are seeing? We cannot even see them, unless we’re looking over their shoulder as they read. The Brexit vote was a complete surprise. Facebook is the real underground. Happy harmless sharing for some, it is feeding customized toxic drinking water to others.

Trump put out a message yesterday telling his supporters in North Carolina to vote twice. I would bet that message is being heavily reinforced to his supporters via Facebook and direct emails. I will not be surprised when North Carolina in fact gets swamped with duplicate Republican absentee ballots. I will not be surprised when North Carolina is stolen from Biden, very difficult to clean accountability and transparency when Trump prophecy of large numbers of fraudulent ballots comes true. How can this happen? By requesting absentee ballots, and then also showing up to vote in person, claiming that they never received the absentee ballot. In states with democratic governors and secretaries of elections, we stand a chance. But those of us who remember Bush v Gore know that the illusion of democracy ultimately is an illusion in the courts. And the courts are far more conservative now.

By far the issue most frequently shared on Facebook yesterday was some silly scandal about a Democratic leader getting a haircut? Really?? I foresee the country slipping into authoritarian dynasty. I foresee militias terrifying the cities. I foresee armed mobs at the board of elections offices. I foresee that some of this will catch Democrats by surprise, because a common characteristic of democrats is a belief in the basic goodness of people. Living in some idealistic world, it’s incomprehensible that so many people are willing to justify election stealing, let alone lionize 17 year old murderers. In the meantime, our neighbors are getting wound up or outraged or indignant over a haircut?

We may need a 15 point lead in the polls to overcome the cheating that they will be doing. Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin and probably some other states wireless modems on their ballot scanners. You’ve seen what Kenosha Wisconsin is like. Nationwide, the U.S. postal service is being manipulated under the direction of former RNC chairmen DeJoy and Duncan. Russia will be attacking the voter rolls and probably more. Trump is probably right about one thing: we won’t know the results of the election for months.

What is happening on your rightwing relatives’ social media pages RIGHT NOW? Presented with deceptions, not reality, their perception of how trump is doing is incomprehensible to those of us that read the Democratic Underground, watch MSNBC, and/or read the Washington Post.

Republican Voters Against Trump ads may be particularly useful, if it gives wavering Republicans a permission to go for Biden. I suspect that defections are harder to overcome. Maybe Trump can’t suppress votes coming from Republican strongholds as easily.

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lark

(23,099 posts)
1. We cannot count on FL, the Repug vote stealing machine is well oiled here & will steal it for drumpf
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:17 AM
Sep 2020

Just like they did for Shrub, Voldemort and DeathSentence. Russians were deeper into the FL database than they were in any other state, AFAIK. They already got a post office to withhold ballots, have few voting locations in Broward County and the Miami area and massive suppression through their vote stealing signature matching program which throws out every vote (over 100,000 in 2018) that isn't an "EXACT MATCH" with the signature on the voting card so aging people are almost automatically disqualified, especially if they are Democrats. I'm sure my state will go for Biden, but when the votes are (not) counted, drumpf could easily win here, the cheating by repugs is dug in here.

We can take nothing for granted and have to vote as if our lives depended on this - because they freaking do!

lostnfound

(16,178 posts)
2. Florida has wireless modems on precinct ballot-scanners too.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 11:03 AM
Sep 2020

The trump machine still fully intends to steal it.


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lark

(23,099 posts)
3. The modems are there because repugs put them there on purpose & won't remove them.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 03:00 PM
Sep 2020

Don't count on FL, PUtin is too entrenched here, even if we overwhelm them, will what's reported reflect that? Magic 8 ball says - unclear but doubtful.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
6. You don't get to vote twice just because you 'say' you didn't receive your absentee ballot.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 09:00 AM
Sep 2020

If it really was that easy to game the system, then that would pretty much support trump's argument that mail-in voting will lead to a lot of voter fraud.

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