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Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 03:32 PM Sep 2020

The UK Invented The First Tanks. Now It May Retire Them For Good.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2020/09/01/the-uk-invented-the-first-tanks-now-it-may-retire-them-for-good/#6e228ef23633

Over a century ago, as trench warfare imposed a seemingly perpetual blood-soaked stalemate in World War I, a commission in the United Kingdom made military history. It adapted technology from ‘Creeping Grip” treaded tractors imported from Chicago into armored war machines that could negotiate mud-soaked battlefields and trenches, seemingly impervious to bullets and shrapnel, and blast enemies with their own sponson-mounted cannons and machine guns.

These breakdown-prone, rhombus-shaped “land ships” are considered to be the world’s first tanks.

Today, the UK may make history again as an integrated review of defense and foreign policy mulls retiring the British Army’s fleet of Challenger 2 main battle tanks in favor of more funding for satellites and cyber-warfare. That could make the UK potentially the first major military power to give up on the main battle tank entirely.

The fate of the British Army’s armored fighting vehicles is linked to fundamental questions as to what role the UK should play in NATO and future military coalitions.

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The UK Invented The First Tanks. Now It May Retire Them For Good. (Original Post) Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 OP
WHAT, NO TANKS? Thats how we lost the Battle of Bowling Green!!! winstars Sep 2020 #1
🕯 underpants Sep 2020 #5
if they really needed tanks in the future qazplm135 Sep 2020 #2
And the Swiss Army is ready to take advantge. sl8 Sep 2020 #3
Dammit Karl! Where's the can opener? underpants Sep 2020 #4
I'm not convinced abandoning the tank is in the UK's best interest Massacure Sep 2020 #6
US Marines are phasing out their tanks unc70 Sep 2020 #7
Tanks for posting Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #8
Tanks for the memories ... OnDoutside Sep 2020 #9
Aircraft carriers and manned fighter jets are more obsolete war technology... hunter Sep 2020 #10

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
2. if they really needed tanks in the future
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 03:39 PM
Sep 2020

it would probably be a lot cheaper to just order and buy whatever main battle tank we are selling at that point, than to modernize, build, and maintain their own tanks.

The problem though might be the lack of trained crews.

Massacure

(7,511 posts)
6. I'm not convinced abandoning the tank is in the UK's best interest
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 04:29 PM
Sep 2020

That said, it would probably a lot cheaper for them to procure Abrams from the US or Leopards from the Germans. At four tank regiments with 56 tanks each, it's probably cost prohibitive continue development on their own.

hunter

(38,300 posts)
10. Aircraft carriers and manned fighter jets are more obsolete war technology...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 04:57 PM
Sep 2020

... but the U.S.A. is still building them.

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