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Miles Archer

(18,838 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:35 PM Sep 2020

What is the single tipping point most likely to sway Trump voters to Biden?


28 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
COVID-19
3 (11%)
The tone...the bullying, misogyny, racism, nicknames, etc.
0 (0%)
The 20,000+ lies documented by the Washington Post
0 (0%)
Fear of Social Security ending 3 years after he "terminates" the payroll tax
20 (71%)
Ignoring the Russian bounty on US troops
0 (0%)
Social Unrest
0 (0%)
OTHER (please specify)
5 (18%)
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What is the single tipping point most likely to sway Trump voters to Biden? (Original Post) Miles Archer Sep 2020 OP
Covid, but only if they, themselves, are infected and it's bad or a loved one dies. Vinca Sep 2020 #1
Closer to home, where they 'feel' Covid is a real threat to them. empedocles Sep 2020 #10
Yes, and with Trump owning the forced school opening apocalypse, this is going to bite hard. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #28
Social Security ending and Seniors moving back in with their adult children. sarcasmo Sep 2020 #2
Our adult children are back with us! Greybnk48 Sep 2020 #7
I'm thinking burning bush genxlib Sep 2020 #3
We have an entire state on fire, but their xenophobia is just too strong. CaptYossarian Sep 2020 #14
Stock market crash. unblock Sep 2020 #4
Yes. This. And maybe a loved one dying of covid after a party. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #5
That will take care of the wealthier 'cons, methinks. empedocles Sep 2020 #6
Nothing. J_William_Ryan Sep 2020 #8
The social security party (the largest and most reliable) will dump him DenverJared Sep 2020 #9
The 'third rail of politics'. SS empedocles Sep 2020 #12
This DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2020 #11
Nothing. They're too invested to even consider thinking they were wrong. It's baffling. catbyte Sep 2020 #13
a videotape of Trump having sex witb a black man BernieBabies Sep 2020 #15
A lobotomy. Funtatlaguy Sep 2020 #16
Trump voters do not care about the things that most of the rest of us do. aidbo Sep 2020 #17
This latest comment that those who sacrificed their lives are "losers" and "suckers" Blue Owl Sep 2020 #18
Yeah, I read that article AFTER I did the poll... Miles Archer Sep 2020 #20
I voted other....because all of the above will elect Biden. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #19
Not a thing. GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #21
Nothing. Kaleva Sep 2020 #22
I selected Covid RazzleCat Sep 2020 #23
Don't spend any time on the true believers: you won't sway them. Those who are sitting on the fence, struggle4progress Sep 2020 #24
You're right, I've shared many stories about my sister here... Miles Archer Sep 2020 #25
The "Trump" Voters qwlauren35 Sep 2020 #26
If it's revealed that Trump paid for abortions of his mistresses Poiuyt Sep 2020 #27
That wouldn't work. Mariana Sep 2020 #29
Nothing --- They are prepared to go down with the Trumptanic Le Roi de Pot Sep 2020 #30

Vinca

(50,484 posts)
1. Covid, but only if they, themselves, are infected and it's bad or a loved one dies.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:37 PM
Sep 2020

If it happens to anyone else, it's "fake news."

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
10. Closer to home, where they 'feel' Covid is a real threat to them.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:53 PM
Sep 2020

[I hope to write a personal anecdote experience here with a trumper, illustrating the difference between complacency and 'feeling a threat'. May be a pivotal consideration]

Greybnk48

(10,249 posts)
7. Our adult children are back with us!
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:46 PM
Sep 2020

Well, one of them is still here. One left again in June when things opened back up and the other is married and stayed put. Our middle girl, 38, is still here working remotely for a medical company.

They all three would agree to care for us, but I'd rather just get what I paid for for 50 years of work, my SS.

genxlib

(5,570 posts)
3. I'm thinking burning bush
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:40 PM
Sep 2020

Or some other kind of God-revealing-himself event.

Nothing else seems to crack the thick skulls

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
14. We have an entire state on fire, but their xenophobia is just too strong.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:05 PM
Sep 2020

I say we end using cutesy names for fires and hurricanes and replace them with the names of oil executives and GOP politicians. Let's give credit where it belongs.

unblock

(53,140 posts)
4. Stock market crash.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:42 PM
Sep 2020

I think the high stock market has been saving Donnie's bacon so far, and no surprise the fed is doing everything it can to pump it up.

A lot of republicans will forgive anything if their 401(k) is going up. If the market is up from here on Election Day, the election could be closer than we think.

But if the market collapses, Donnie is toast.

J_William_Ryan

(1,850 posts)
8. Nothing.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:50 PM
Sep 2020

There’s nothing Trump might say or do – or fail to do – that would sway Trump voters to vote for Biden.

There is no event – no matter how catastrophic – that would convince Trump voters to vote for Biden.

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
9. The social security party (the largest and most reliable) will dump him
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:52 PM
Sep 2020

No one attacks social security and gets elected.

catbyte

(34,834 posts)
13. Nothing. They're too invested to even consider thinking they were wrong. It's baffling.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 05:56 PM
Sep 2020

And terrifying. Oh, there will be a few defectors, but not many.

Edited to add: Everything but what that thing spews is "fake news" to them. They will actually have to get CV-19 or lose their SSI/SSR checks and even then they'll somehow blame the Democrats. It's a cult.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
17. Trump voters do not care about the things that most of the rest of us do.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:00 PM
Sep 2020

I chose the social security answer because I think that’s the only thing that might sway some of them.

I thought the tone answer is funny because his ‘tone’ is why most of them voted for him in the first place, not a reason they wouldn’t vote for him.

In essence they voted for Trump to ‘own the libs’ because he was the most adept at it in their eyes.

Blue Owl

(52,076 posts)
18. This latest comment that those who sacrificed their lives are "losers" and "suckers"
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:20 PM
Sep 2020

Beyond appalling that ANYONE would dare say such a thing.

Miles Archer

(18,838 posts)
20. Yeah, I read that article AFTER I did the poll...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:24 PM
Sep 2020

...that's definitely a new low. I'm waiting to see Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell tonight for the reactions, beyond what I've already seen on Twitter.

GoCubsGo

(32,387 posts)
21. Not a thing.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 07:45 AM
Sep 2020

They'll just tell you it's all lies intended to hurt Dear Leader. Or, they'll blame someone else. Look how they blame Obama for everything that has gone wrong after he left office--even things that are demonstrably Trump's doing. They are a death cult. Nothing is going to sway them away from him.

RazzleCat

(732 posts)
23. I selected Covid
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:11 AM
Sep 2020

Here is why

Social Security, no not because it would not cause heads to explode, but rather they will not believe it. We have been hearing of its demise for decades.

Russian Bounty, already over and done with. "Both sides do it"

Social Unrest, Well if they just obeyed the police officer.

Please not not my opinion on the above just how I believe the right equivocates on these issues.



struggle4progress

(118,701 posts)
24. Don't spend any time on the true believers: you won't sway them. Those who are sitting on the fence,
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:23 AM
Sep 2020

or are near enough to the fence to think of sitting on it, are a different story: but they'll be a mixed lot, and there won't be a single magic bullet for them

Miles Archer

(18,838 posts)
25. You're right, I've shared many stories about my sister here...
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:49 AM
Sep 2020

...she's "all in," she's already celebrating four more years of Trump followed by eight years of Don Jr.

That's right, the crazy runs that deep, my other sister's heart is broken by all of this, but we have no choice but love her as our sister and hope to hell that something shakes her out of this.

And yes, we have tried "talking to her," and she's stubborn as a mule, and a few seconds in her denials of anything negative about Trump turn into yelling."

The "try talking to them" thing is easy until you actually doing it. Her world view is shaped by Hannity and Carlson. She will not look outside of that bubble. She's in her 70s, which doesn't help. She's been a hardcore "Fox Fan" for AT LEAST the last couple of decades.

qwlauren35

(6,162 posts)
26. The "Trump" Voters
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 09:37 AM
Sep 2020

are not going to be swayed.

The "anti-Hillary" voters are the ones who might vote for Biden.

Poiuyt

(18,162 posts)
27. If it's revealed that Trump paid for abortions of his mistresses
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 10:07 AM
Sep 2020

I haven't heard any rumors about this, but you know there must be some in his history.

Mariana

(14,879 posts)
29. That wouldn't work.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 10:36 AM
Sep 2020

They'd just say, "That was before he became a Christian. It's all forgiven now."

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