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shraby

(21,946 posts)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:10 PM Sep 2012

In response to those who have told me Romney doesn't "owe" us his tax returns. I say YES HE DOES!

Yes he does owe us 10 years of back tax returns when he is planting his money in off shore accounts.

How do we know he isn't laundering drug money? How do we know he is paying the U.S. taxes he owes on the money? How do we know he isn't and hasn't taken payoffs for political favors? How do we know he didn't get amnesty on his Swiss accounts?

We can't know the answers to these or any other valid questions I haven't posed here..and these are all valid questions the people deserve to know the answers to BEFORE they vote.

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In response to those who have told me Romney doesn't "owe" us his tax returns. I say YES HE DOES! (Original Post) shraby Sep 2012 OP
We deserve and need to know the moral character of the man Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #1
need to know the moral character of the man Flashmann Sep 2012 #6
Exactly glacierbay Sep 2012 #9
Yes he does Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #18
The tax returns put it in writing Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #15
The cooked returns he has shown, tell us nothing. liberal N proud Sep 2012 #2
The cooked returns DO tell us something..that he's a liar, and is not only willing to cook the books shraby Sep 2012 #3
So have you voiced your allegations to the IRS yet? glacierbay Sep 2012 #5
The IRS knows. GoCubsGo Sep 2012 #11
So in the eyes of the law eg: the IRS, glacierbay Sep 2012 #13
It's not about fraud. GoCubsGo Sep 2012 #19
100% correct malaise Sep 2012 #24
If he wants to be the POTUS he certainly does owe us azurnoir Sep 2012 #4
seriously.. does not understand he is applying for a job Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #7
Didn't Ann just tell people we should be thankful he wants to run the country? shraby Sep 2012 #10
I know of no employer that asks to see your back tax returns. glacierbay Sep 2012 #12
I think if someone is applying for a job as a business genius Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #21
Yep. Especially if he's running on his business experience. GoCubsGo Sep 2012 #8
His only "business experience" is killing US jobs. Now THAT will be an easy sell. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #16
+10,573 Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #17
He's hiding a bunch of shit and he knows it. "Summaries" aren't tax returns - they're "spin". HopeHoops Sep 2012 #14
Romney Owes. chowder66 Sep 2012 #20
k&r... spanone Sep 2012 #22
There is no expectation of privacy XemaSab Sep 2012 #23
The only think Mitt Romney owes the American people Aerows Sep 2012 #25
All those in office and those bbinacan Sep 2012 #26

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
6. need to know the moral character of the man
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:29 PM
Sep 2012

I'd think,by now,that would be glaringly obvious.....Even to some of the smarter stupids....The ones with IQs soaring to the high-mid double digits...

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
9. Exactly
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:33 PM
Sep 2012

We all know by now that he's an unethical gas bag, I don't NEED to see his tax returns to know this, although I would like to, but he doesn't OWE us a look at them.
I was never going to vote for him anyway.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
15. The tax returns put it in writing
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:59 PM
Sep 2012

Taxes are a big part of leading a country
What he does with his taxes gives us a better look at what he feels is important
He is applying for a job, the precedent is to give more returns ........... simple as that

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. The cooked returns DO tell us something..that he's a liar, and is not only willing to cook the books
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:17 PM
Sep 2012

he DOES cook them.

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
13. So in the eyes of the law eg: the IRS,
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:44 PM
Sep 2012

he's done nothing illegal?
I really wish they could find something to nail him on tax fraud.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
19. It's not about fraud.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:50 PM
Sep 2012

Nobody is accusing him of doing anything illegal, although I do believe that keeping offshore accounts for tax evasion purposes is not quite legal. It's about hypocrisy. Romney accuses 47% of the American public of being tax freeloaders, yet he is using every loophole, and every trick in the book to keep from having to pay taxes himself, including running for President in order to give himself even bigger tax breaks. He's a fucking hypocrite.

It's also about abject unfairness. He pays, at most, half of what you and I pay percentage-wise--when he pays anything at all. We perform actual labor for our earnings, which is a pittance, compared to what he makes. He makes his by moving money from one investment account to another. Yet, he gets to keep a bigger chunk of his annual earnings?

shraby

(21,946 posts)
10. Didn't Ann just tell people we should be thankful he wants to run the country?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:36 PM
Sep 2012

Nevermind the fact that he's applying for the job and I for one as one of his possible employers, would like to see his back taxes to verify that he's honest.
Many employers ask for credit scores, credit information, lie detector tests, background checks and on and on. What makes him think he's exempt from turning in his back returns..especially since he fudged on the one he just presented.

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
12. I know of no employer that asks to see your back tax returns.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:41 PM
Sep 2012

Who does this?
Until it becomes a law, you can say all you want that he owes us, but that's not even remotely true.
I would be ok with a law being passed that all Federal Govt. politicians should release 10 years of tax returns. That would solve this debate.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
21. I think if someone is applying for a job as a business genius
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:54 PM
Sep 2012

and there seem to be many questions about him, but
he's being very secretive and refusing to disclose
information which would clear up the questions, in order
for him to be considered for the job... it's not about legality,
it's about would anyone seriously be expected to hire this person?
He hasn't even got good references!

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
8. Yep. Especially if he's running on his business experience.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:31 PM
Sep 2012

People need to see just exactly how he made that money and how he conducted his business. And, if he wants to run a country, people need to see how much faith he has in that country and it's financial system by showing us where he keeps his fortune. Putting it in foreign banks to avoid paying taxes should disqualify him from the job in any good American's eyes.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
14. He's hiding a bunch of shit and he knows it. "Summaries" aren't tax returns - they're "spin".
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:58 PM
Sep 2012

On Edit: If there was one person I could give a swift kick in the nuts to it would be a hard choice between rMoney and Mr. Frothy, but I wouldn't have to make the choice - neither have nuts.

chowder66

(9,066 posts)
20. Romney Owes.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:53 PM
Sep 2012

If Romney wants us to “trust him” on his taxes and we don’t take him for his "word" due to the fact that his "word" is no longer valid by his own doing then he owes it to us to show us why we should trust him.

So if Romney wants to earn our trust, then he must provide something in return.

If there has been nothing of substance given in return to earn our trust.... then it is considered “owed“.
.
Especially if the same person is still asking for us to “trust him”.



All I know is this; Romney Wants Something for Nothing.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
25. The only think Mitt Romney owes the American people
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:02 PM
Sep 2012

is to get out of the race, since he doesn't plan on representing nearly half of us.

I think his own father may pretend to be appalled, but he raised him to be an elitist, "I can't believe you don't have a summer home, too" type of asshole.

Mitt Romney is the wannabe aristocracy that has brought down nations in central America and South America. It's because he believes he is worthy of leadership, while disdaining the people he thinks he could possibly lead.

Mitt Romney couldn't lead a pack of puppies, and that's what he has been raised to believe he is - a Dog with a great pedigree, somehow destined to lead the pack, and now he is exposed to packs in other parts of the country.

He's learning what it is to be a minion, a yapper, and ultimately, the dog that gets bitten and spends his life not ONLY not alpha, but somewhere in the back of the pack, smelling everyone else's crap while he tries to repair his reputation.

And he's not capable of doing so. He's on self-destruct mode. I will sit back and watch while he gets savaged by the rest of the Republican party, as they now understand his fundamental flaws as a candidate.

bbinacan

(7,047 posts)
26. All those in office and those
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:36 PM
Sep 2012

seeking office should produce 10 years of returns. No matter the party. Too much shady stuff going on IMO.

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