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Imallin4Joe

(758 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:48 PM Sep 2020

Trump's plan to kill Social Security by 2023 opens a door to valuable swing votes.

Death by de-funding.

Wipe out Social Security by making it insolvent. Bankrupt it. The GOP's plan for the past 80+ years.

Social Security is one of the most successful retirement financial security plans in HUMAN HISTORY.

Other nations have modeled their retirement security plans off of SS.

Which is why the GOP has spent the past 80+ years trying to kill it.

Trump is actively working to gut and kill SS.

Regarding voters that actually show up to vote, the elderly are typically the most reliable.

Democrats, campaign on the fact that Trump is secretly trying to kill SS by de-funding it into bankruptcy.

Our party will be rewarded with votes.

We're talking about bringing in the 5-10% of votes required to swing elections our way.

Win it with Social Security by telling the truth.

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Trump's plan to kill Social Security by 2023 opens a door to valuable swing votes. (Original Post) Imallin4Joe Sep 2020 OP
Sure does! SheltieLover Sep 2020 #1
Great. I hope Joe runs on this until Nov 3rd. Imallin4Joe Sep 2020 #13
Absolutely! SheltieLover Sep 2020 #14
Just another way to maximize his kill ratio. dchill Sep 2020 #2
Orange Midas-the deathbringer... Imallin4Joe Sep 2020 #8
a national/local coordinated strategy to save SS - counter to trump law and order scam msongs Sep 2020 #3
Your exactly correct. Make it a major campaign theme.. n/t Imallin4Joe Sep 2020 #9
problem, we have hearing about the RazzleCat Sep 2020 #4
There has been an enormous amount of disinfo slung around about SS over the years, but... Girard442 Sep 2020 #6
Which is why we have to speak up and educate the blind.. Imallin4Joe Sep 2020 #22
Yup......our tRump loving neighbor, is saying on her FB page..."tRump doesn't want to a kennedy Sep 2020 #5
Amazing SheltieLover Sep 2020 #15
I saw someone on FB try to deflect it by saying,,,, Captain Zero Sep 2020 #26
Great idea to make an issue of this! creeksneakers2 Sep 2020 #7
Biden has a powerful new ad about this I saw for first time during network news tonight wishstar Sep 2020 #10
Joe needs to push this issue. Glad to hear he is starting. n/t Imallin4Joe Sep 2020 #11
Glad to hear! SheltieLover Sep 2020 #16
Arizona, Texas, Florida all have significant over 55 yr and over 65 yr beachbumbob Sep 2020 #12
Texas is a SWING state!!! Imallin4Joe Sep 2020 #18
GOP will have to go into full voter suppression mode in Texas, Florida and Arizona and that beachbumbob Sep 2020 #29
And yet, I'm barely hearing it mentioned on M$M. ooky Sep 2020 #17
there is a reason why you don't hear ANY discussion on this on MSM beachbumbob Sep 2020 #31
Trump's plan to kill Social Security is freaking me out and would not matter if I was a D or R honest.abe Sep 2020 #19
Seriously. I'm targeting 2024... SMC22307 Sep 2020 #20
There are so many that resonate with what you've described.. Imallin4Joe Sep 2020 #21
This resonates with Republicans as well. Dems better not blow this opportunity! SMC22307 Sep 2020 #23
Trump/GOP plan as this has ALWYS been the intent, kill SS and Medicare. Now it is up beachbumbob Sep 2020 #30
Seniors always vote! BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #24
That toon sums it up perfectly. Imallin4Joe Sep 2020 #25
i hate trumps guts. hubby and i would lose our house and be homeless trueblue2007 Sep 2020 #27
Trump's voters will see the end of Payroll Taxes as a good thing. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2020 #28
🌟 K&R 🌟 Duppers Sep 2020 #32

msongs

(67,403 posts)
3. a national/local coordinated strategy to save SS - counter to trump law and order scam
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:00 PM
Sep 2020

one hopes dems will go for this as the main point of the election

RazzleCat

(732 posts)
4. problem, we have hearing about the
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:01 PM
Sep 2020

death of SS for my entire life. Worse yet, I personally know several people who have no idea how it works. I swear they believe that there is an account held in their name that has all their contributions in it that has been earning interest. I also know of people who believe that it's a law that you get social security, not something you earn like credits at a college. So they don't know there monies went to support their parents, nor do they understand that you have to work X years to earn it (excluding specific situations, disability, surviving spouse etc.).

I am saying it's the boy who cried wolf with as side of total ignorance on the side. Falling on deaf ears who don't understand the system.

Yes I have tried to explain it, but no, just tired myself out.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
6. There has been an enormous amount of disinfo slung around about SS over the years, but...
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:09 PM
Sep 2020

...if a POTUS with near-dictatorial powers wants it dead and gone, it could actually happen.

Imallin4Joe

(758 posts)
22. Which is why we have to speak up and educate the blind..
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:17 PM
Sep 2020

I'm with you in that too much disinformation had muddled the conversation.

Democrats have a real opportunity here to educate voters and bring votes our way.

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
5. Yup......our tRump loving neighbor, is saying on her FB page..."tRump doesn't want to
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:04 PM
Sep 2020

kill Social Security”. She and others that don’t “get it” are just so stupid that this is what the GOP has been trying to do for FOREVER. THEY WILL DEFUND IT. UGH....... they just don’t get it.

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
26. I saw someone on FB try to deflect it by saying,,,,
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:58 AM
Sep 2020

Well, I heard he proposed cutting a tax. Yeah bitch, the tax that pays for your social security.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
10. Biden has a powerful new ad about this I saw for first time during network news tonight
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:38 PM
Sep 2020

the ad includes the recent actuarial warning in the news that Trump's proposal will lead to insolvency

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
16. Glad to hear!
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:14 PM
Sep 2020

Ty for sharing! Much of rural America lives on gubmint checks. 😉

Are you in a swing state? 🤞

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
12. Arizona, Texas, Florida all have significant over 55 yr and over 65 yr
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 07:59 PM
Sep 2020

Voters who vote. Arizona is in my book, out of trumps reach. As the message gets thru, Florida will be out of reach, and a real chance to win Texas. Trumps play was fir a generational voting war between under 55 and over 55 old voters. He made a huge mistake. So the excuses will be coming he never said what he said.

Imallin4Joe

(758 posts)
18. Texas is a SWING state!!!
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:29 PM
Sep 2020

Imagine if Texas swings blue, we'd wreck the f-ing GOP.

Az and Fla are equally important, but imagine our party stealing Texas..

Glad you joined in the debate..

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
29. GOP will have to go into full voter suppression mode in Texas, Florida and Arizona and that
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:54 AM
Sep 2020

may not even help them if the GOTV effort is huge and people do what is needed to be done to cast votes

ooky

(8,922 posts)
17. And yet, I'm barely hearing it mentioned on M$M.
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:28 PM
Sep 2020

Hopefully we start stepping up the visibility on this through ads soon. We should be hammering away on this daily.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
31. there is a reason why you don't hear ANY discussion on this on MSM
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 06:00 AM
Sep 2020

they know this will collapse the GOP election chances all across america

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
19. Trump's plan to kill Social Security is freaking me out and would not matter if I was a D or R
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:32 PM
Sep 2020

I am counting on Social Security for most of my retirement. Without it I am screwed. Furthermore I have paid into SS a ton of money over my 40 years of working. I cannot imagine losing all that.

Imallin4Joe

(758 posts)
21. There are so many that resonate with what you've described..
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:52 PM
Sep 2020

and we vote.

I believe in others that feel how we feel about this.

We will come together in 2020!!!

We will elect Joe.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
23. This resonates with Republicans as well. Dems better not blow this opportunity!
Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:21 PM
Sep 2020

MAGATs may never be swayed, but not all Repubs are MAGATs.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
30. Trump/GOP plan as this has ALWYS been the intent, kill SS and Medicare. Now it is up
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:59 AM
Sep 2020

to all of us to be sure this is a well known fact with ALL Americans 55 yrs old and older. Of course this will impact the younger people even more as now they will have to take Mom and Dad in and support them and pay for their medical cost. The US Healthcare system will also collapse when Medicare ends as that is a 40%+ part of their GUARANTEED revenue stream. When this dawns on Healthcare providers, doctors and nurses, they may have something to ay about it too

This issue is a gift to be made use of as THE ELECTION ISSUE with the 55 and older crowd

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
28. Trump's voters will see the end of Payroll Taxes as a good thing.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 05:36 AM
Sep 2020

They won't connect it with Social Security or Medicare. If they do, it'll only affect young people, not those already receiving Social Security, right? They'll assume Social Security will continue without that tax.

They'll also think that they'll save money if there's no more Payroll Taxes, even if they no longer work and no longer pay these taxes.

I mean, it's a tax cut, right?

Free money for me.

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