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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'I don't get it': Trump questioned why retired Gen. John Kelly's son gave his life fighting in Afgha
President Donald Trump questioned a Marine's sacrifice during a Memorial Day visit to his grave with the man's father, The Atlantic reported Thursday.
"I don't get it. What was in it for them?" Trump reportedly asked retired Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly, his former chief of staff, as the two stood beside 1st Lt. Robert Kelly's grave at Arlington National Cemetery in 2017.
A retired four-star general and one of Kelly's friends said that Trump "can't fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself."
The White House responded to The Atlantic story almost immediately, criticizing it as "just another anonymously sourced story meant to tear down a Commander-in-Chief who loves our military."
President Donald Trump openly questioned a young Marine's sacrifice during a Memorial Day visit to Arlington National Cemetery with his father, retired Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly, who served as the president's former chief of staff, The Atlantic reported Thursday, citing multiple sources.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-don-t-get-it-trump-questioned-why-retired-gen-john-kelly-s-son-gave-his-life-fighting-in-afghanistan-on-a-memorial-day-visit-to-his-grave/ar-BB18GIir?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=mailsignout
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)Remove him AT ONCE -- this piece of shit is not entitled to cheat his way into office and destroy this once-great country...
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Sounds like Gen. Kelly would have firsthand information about Trump's heartless comment.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,455 posts)Stand up and tell us, General. Did Trump say that?
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)If Kelly confirms, I would say his presidency was over. But the deplorables don't care.
mnmoderatedem
(3,724 posts)if he never said it, there is no reason for Kelly to not flatly deny it.
Same with Tillerson with his "moron" comment, McMaster with his "kindergarten" comment, and an endless supply of others. if it was never said, there is no one with cell phone audio proving you wrong, or any other evidence to the contrary. Just say I don't know where you got that information, but it's not true.
Yet they never do this. The either hide from the question, or dance around it.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)soldierant
(6,847 posts)is waning, apparently - it hasn't waned enough yet, but a strong statement from Kelly would affect it, for sure.
There is likely no one revelation and no one person who could single-handedly destroy his reelection - except maybe an assassin - and I do not want that and I don't think anyone here does either.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)And I agree...no assassin either. First, I wouldn't wish that on anyone and their family. And second, I don't want Trump turned into a martyr.
Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 3, 2020, 08:30 PM - Edit history (1)
I watched young men like Kelly die in Afghanistan and I pieced together even more that were blown to pieces and their lives completely shattered as a result. I have no words to describe what a lowlife Trump is for that statement.
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)BKDem
(1,733 posts)Kelly is garbage too, in other words.
BKDem
(1,733 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)oldsoftie
(12,531 posts)Then they realize chicken shit will never be chicken salad.
JI7
(89,247 posts)oldsoftie
(12,531 posts)It was the "mutual agreement" BS. It was announced that he was "leaving at the end of the month". Regardless, actually being fired by trump would only provide more proof of what I said.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Stick a fork in this motherfucker he's done.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)I never say stick a fork in him, but this one? Hoo boy.
tulipsandroses
(5,123 posts)He doesn't like captured ones, he doesn't like dead ones. Heck, he doesn't even like the living ones, he just threatened to defund to preserve confederate names.
agingdem
(7,848 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 3, 2020, 09:13 PM - Edit history (1)
were boys who didn't have rich dads to buy them deferments...losers were those who served...suckers were those who died...the orange imbecile is a vicious sociopath...
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)At least Michael Cohen has sought redemption and is spilling.
oldsoftie
(12,531 posts)I wonder if you look at trumps net worth; his REAL net worth. Where was it when his dad died? And how did it progress AFTER he passed away? Without dad's money & constant help, I'd bet his value dropped as the years passed.
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)of one of the companies holding the kids in cages. I'm sure he'd making plenty of money and wouldn't want to upset the system that is providing the children.
agingdem
(7,848 posts)he knew Trump was a deviant, a conman, a stupid depraved narcissistic sociopath but he agreed with the racial, ethnic, and xenophobic hate Trump was spewing... Kelly stood with Trump before his son's grave and listened to Trump devalue his son's sacrifice, measuring the loss of his child in dollars and cents and Kelly said nothing, did nothing,...and in fact, he became Trump's babysitter, his minder ...so I say please honor Kelly's son but do not shed a tear for John Kelly...
oldsoftie
(12,531 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,745 posts)He figured Prince Charles would be dead before global warming got too bad, so why would he care?
Trump is a total sociopath. He is so far gone he doesn't understand anything but absolute selfishness.
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)never will. A pathetic loser.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I could not believe anyone could be so heartless, stupid and cruel.
Fuck him.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)You use them. Why would you sacrifice yourself for anyone?
Btw that fear of disfigurement, death, seeing any kind of human weakness and honoring a sacrificethats the fear the narcissism is constructed to protect him from. Push this hard enough and hes going to break. Look for a rise in the madness to reassure himself hes mighty.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,413 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)everyone acting so surprised? Did they not believe it, did they think he would change? How intelligent is our military if they fell for this BS for years when he TOLD US this is how he feels over and over and over?!?
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)He can pretend otherwise sometimes, probably with the help of his aides, but his core personality is exposed periodically.
I still think he could start a nuclear war and not care as long as he gets shelter with his main squeeze, Ivanka. (Who is half-him, so that's probably appealing to that sicko!)