The p***y-grabber story broke a couple or few weeks before Election '16, so

[UTUSN]

it didn't torpedo him, which it should have/WOULD have if it had been anybody else/especially a Dem.

So this about his hatred for veterans/military, although they have a long history of being wingnuts, *should* torpedo him, like nobody knew since his outrageous crap about not only veterans but POWs and Gold Star parents, but this is just early September.

Nothing sticks, nothing resonates, all the self-hating members of groups who SHOULD detest him seem undeterred.

[Thekaspervote]

1. I believe it will resonate with the military and vet families. This, to me is a much bigger issue

[JonLP24]

15. They are both big issues

Women often experience assault or harassment in the military.



https://www.protectourdefenders.com/factsheet/

[rockfordfile]

2. If it's true , then this is different.

[progressoid]

3. Even if he admitted to it, I doubt it would make much of a difference.

His cult is delusional. They would find an reason to agree with him.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

4. That was then. Things are different now.

rest assured Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are not going to let this recent bombshell die. Nor will VoteVets.org ot the Lincoln Project.

How any Veteran still is thinking of voting for Trump is beyond me.

[jcgoldie]

5. He's teflon Don for sure but one difference...

His base is almost uniformly misogynistic... from the rednecks to the evangelicals thats part of the glue that binds them together... pussy grabbing is pretty much ok... now the military is held in much higher esteem amongst all of those disparate groups of Trumpers...

[still_one]

23. Trump will have a lot more difficulty getting out of this one, because they have on film him

saying the same thing about John McCain as they are reporting in the Atlantic article about his disparaging remarks regarding people who fought and died for their country in the military

[madaboutharry]

6. People don't care too much about women.

I think that is true.

This is different. The thin slice of voters who will actually decide this election may care very much about these atrocious comments and attitudes toward the military.

[Skittles]

10. yup

misogyny is is deeply entrenched with repukes; anti-military sentiment, not so much

[Flaleftist]

7. A significant percentage of the electorate has been conditioned to hate Democrats so much that they

will vote for anyone with an R next to their name. I recall seeing a thread earlier with an article saying most Republicans buy the Q Anon BS.

[Zoonart]

8. This is disgracing the office and his oath.

He cannot continue as commander and chief.

This is not going to go away as locker room talk or "mere" misogyny.

This is serving military, veterans, and war dead.

[DinahMoeHum]

9. The thing about Teflon, though: Expose it to excessive heat. . .

. . .and it buckles and cracks.

[bedazzled]

22. It also poisons the air

Just like dumph

[Hoyt]

11. I think a lot of folks who weren't trumpsters sat at home thinking it was

in the bag for that and other reasons. Who could vote for someone that crass? We found out.

[JI7]

12. Becsuse of Comey who came afterwards

[still_one]

19. and except in a few rare cases, the press conveniently misses that it was Comey who interferred

with the election with the media pushing the LIE that the email investigation was reopened. It wasn't

[sprinkleeninow]

20. You posted this at least one previously, and I heartily approve this message.👍

[crickets]

30. +1000000

[NanceGreggs]

13. If nothing sticks ...

... why isn't Trump in exactly the same place he was four years ago in terms of popularity, approval ratings, etc.?

Why is he struggling to get back the voters he's lost? Why is he being clobbered in the polls in states he won by large margins in 2016?

Apparently, some things must have stuck.

[Awsi Dooger]

14. I'm hoping it will briefly stop the uptick in his approval rating

Otherwise I'm surprised at the confidence that this will have legs.

USPS and Social Security and this topic could be combined in one devastating commercial. Not a Don Winslow wandering 2 minute ad. A 30 second ad briefly summarizing all 3 then, "What more do you need to know?"

I would use military losers and suckers first , then USPS second, and wrap with social security. Then plaster it all over Florida.

[Mick Travis]

16. That would doom him in the past...

Today's cultists will shrug it off.

[still_one]

17. The reason that story didn't stick is because of Comey pure and simple. 11 days before the

election, Comey sent a letter to the republicans in Congress, saying they were checking to see if another computer had additional information to reopen the email investigation.

The republicans and our illustrious media then proceeded to propagate the LIE that the email investigation had been reopened.

The media outlets then paraded every right wing pundit and republican across their screen to propagate that LIE that the email investigation was "reopened"

Hillary had a 4 to 5 point lead before that, and that lead was completely erased

Comey then went into hiding until late Friday, the weekend before the election, when he said there was no new information to reopen the email investigation.

It was too late then. The damage had already been done. It didn't take much either

In those critical swing states Hillary lost by less than 1%. In those states Jill Stein had 1% of the vote. That is why trump won

As for this current disparaging remarks about the military and those who served, trump can call The Atlantic piece a "bunch of lies", but he said the same disparaging remarks about John McCain, and that is recorded on film.

Hopefully the press will confront him with that. He cannot lie his way out of that

[JonLP24]

21. I think the Obama-Trump voters hurt more

I will concede both Jill Stein voters & Obama-Trump voters hurt but most Jill Stein voters are very disillusioned.

I also blame Russia exploiting a population obsessed with Clinton's emails.

[still_one]

25. The evidence indicates it was the Comey's nonesense. Her 4 point lead completely vanished after

that came out. The point I was making by bring up third party voters is that it didn't take much to affect that since Hillary lost by less than 1% in those critical swing states

47% didn't bother to vote, and I suspect a lot of that was due to the Comey effect. A good number of that 47% didn't bother to vote because they were disillusioned

[uponit7771]

28. Yep, I figured there's no way Comey would say anything unless it was serious .. it wasn't

... and then I knew the fix was in.

[JonLP24]

31. I agree Comey is at fault

This is why I'm more angry at Obama-Trump voters

A new study reveals the real reason Obama voters switched to Trump
Hint: It has to do with race.

(snip)

A new study shows that this response isn’t as powerful as it may seem. The study, from three political scientists from around the country, takes a statistical look at a large sample of Obama-Trump switchers. It finds that these voters tended to score highly on measures of racial hostility and xenophobia — and were not especially likely to be suffering economically.

“White voters with racially conservative or anti-immigrant attitudes switched votes to Trump at a higher rate than those with more liberal views on these issues,” the paper’s authors write. “We find little evidence that economic dislocation and marginality were significantly related to vote switching in 2016.”

This new paper fits with a sizeable slate of studies conducted over the past 18 months or so, most of which have come to the same conclusions: There is tremendous evidence that Trump voters were motivated by racial resentment (as well as hostile sexism), and very little evidence that economic stress had anything to do with it.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/16/17980820/trump-obama-2016-race-racism-class-economy-2018-midterm

[still_one]

32. Yup. Comey was the catalyst. What followed whether because of racism, sexism, and disillusion

was the result

[crimycarny]

24. I will NEVER forgive Comey

He lost all credibility when he made the public announcement—2 weeks before he election—that more emails were found, knowing full well they were duplicates of emails already investigated by FBI. Absolute *sshole.

[still_one]

27. Without a doubt Comey, and the media propagating the falsehood that the email investigation was

reopened is mostly responsible for what happened. Sure, there was Russian other interference, but that was the main thing

I am sure enough of the 47% who didn't bother to vote, stayed home because of that

[crimycarny]

18. Biden +4; Hillary -20 with military

Not at all the same as 2016. Hillary was -20, that’s -20, with the military at this time in 2016. So even before the Atlantic story Trump’s support with military was eroding.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/514418-military-times-poll-biden-holds-4-point-lead-over-trump-among-troops

[Qutzupalotl]

26. Wikileaks began their dumps hours later.

He doesn’t have their help this time, FWIW.

[uponit7771]

29. +1,even if he did it would not be amplified by the MSM this time outside of Faux News

[JonLP24]

37. He still does have their support

but their leaks are being ignored this time.

[PlanetBev]

33. Drip, drip, drip

You never know, this could peel another point off Trump’s hide.

[BannonsLiver]

34. It'll be in his obituary some day.

The stink will never wash off.

[In It to Win It]

35. We lost without the p-grabber story

So we Damn sure would have lost with it

[In It to Win It]

36. Think about it, every month since November 2016 has been an October surprise with Trump

I think Trump has lost as much support as he’s ever gonna lose

The ones who are left are hanging on for dear life. They’re not going anywhere.