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no_hypocrisy

(46,101 posts)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:00 AM Sep 2020

If the Atlantic article about Trump's dismissive and condemning opinion of the military

members who willingly gave their lives for this country, and those statements were a while ago, I'd swear that he made them in order NOT to get re-elected. Or he assumed they wouldn't be remembered. And if remembered, then not repeated.

It's too much like the end of A Face In The Crowd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Face_in_the_Crowd_(film)


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To mock the war dead is just going too far. "Losers and Suckers"


My Trumper "friends" have not recognized this story yet.
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If the Atlantic article about Trump's dismissive and condemning opinion of the military (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 OP
I think you've hit on something I have been thinking also. Zoonart Sep 2020 #1
How do they slice and dice this though? Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #3
I think they just help to burn him down in the general and Zoonart Sep 2020 #4
Pure chaos...I think Trump will try to take them down with him Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #8
Yep... Zoonart Sep 2020 #9
Yes. We've all been cursed. Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #11
They didn't do it in 2016 when he said the same remarks about McCain, nor his overt still_one Sep 2020 #6
Question. Why Wouldn't the GOP have tried to jettison him before he was renominated? why let Ninga Sep 2020 #13
I think they wanted to see if they could get a bump out of the convention and then Zoonart Sep 2020 #15
I think he wants to win without a doubt. He is so much consumed by himself and his views, he has still_one Sep 2020 #2
I have no doubt that the orange man wants to be president. Callalily Sep 2020 #5
It is not for Biden and Harris to do that. What will happen in that regard will start with the NY, still_one Sep 2020 #10
Well, to split hairs, he wants to win the election. Not exactly the same thing. eppur_se_muova Sep 2020 #17
It won't matter MatthewG. Sep 2020 #7
That trDump holds the military in such low regard is no secret. magicarpet Sep 2020 #12
What a great comparison, Trump to Lonesome Rhodes, (Andy Griffith) Beringia Sep 2020 #14
He made those comments for the same reason he mocked that reporter JI7 Sep 2020 #16
This happened two years ago... brooklynite Sep 2020 #18

Zoonart

(11,866 posts)
1. I think you've hit on something I have been thinking also.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:04 AM
Sep 2020

The "sources" for this story have had this in their pockets for some time.

There have been rumors that the GOP was waiting until Labor Day to decide whether or not they would throw tRump overboard.
Could this be them pulling the plug?

Knowing that this is just a bridge too far and he can't survive this?

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
3. How do they slice and dice this though?
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:13 AM
Sep 2020

Let's just say that they were going to run against Trump, how do the.puvot and do that when they've stuck with his insanity this long? It seems like 2 months is not enough time to save the party.

Zoonart

(11,866 posts)
4. I think they just help to burn him down in the general and
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:18 AM
Sep 2020

by making the disrespect of t he military front and center in their repudiation of Trump, they hope to save themselves and survive their own reelection battles.

If not... they ALL go down. It's every man for himself time.

I think it's just a complete hang out.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
8. Pure chaos...I think Trump will try to take them down with him
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:33 AM
Sep 2020

The question is when does Putin pivot to try to salvage whatever he can with Biden? Does Putin ensure certain anti-Trump stories, audio, video see the light of day? Does he pull back on the Facebook propaganda?

The next few weeks will be interesting.

Let's see what McConnell does with Covid relief. That will be a big tell.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
6. They didn't do it in 2016 when he said the same remarks about McCain, nor his overt
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:28 AM
Sep 2020

racist, sexist, bigotry.

Silence was greeted by the republicans when he failed to criticize the bounties on Americans by Russians in Afghanistan, the Russian attack on an American convoy in Syria, and the poising of Putin’s political opponents

His anti-NATO stance, and pulling troops out of Germanyall have been brushed aside by the republicans

The republicans are in too deep on this to back out, and the speculation that they may “oust” him before the election is unlikely, because in order to do that trump has to agree, and it is doubtful he would agree to that. The only loyalty trump has is to trump. He has no loyalty to the country or the political party he is part of

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
13. Question. Why Wouldn't the GOP have tried to jettison him before he was renominated? why let
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:47 AM
Sep 2020

him stay on the ballot?

I believe the GOP have dug themselves a deep and long grave. It will be close to 20 years before they recover.

Zoonart

(11,866 posts)
15. I think they wanted to see if they could get a bump out of the convention and then
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:52 AM
Sep 2020

they would not have to do anything at all.

Now...they KNOW the ship is going down and this is in issue that they can exploit to separate themselves from Dump and not piss off the base. A base that they fear because they have become a mob. Really... the GOP has lost control of all of this I think they view this as their best strategy.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
2. I think he wants to win without a doubt. He is so much consumed by himself and his views, he has
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:13 AM
Sep 2020

no sense of right and wrong.

He got away with this in 2016 with his remarks on John McCain, and that was the signal to him that it was ok

Mary Trump’s book, and analysis on her uncle, fits this profile exactly

He has know compassion or empathy

If for nothing else as long as he is president he knows he won’t be prosecuted, and it will not be surprising what he will do to stay in power




Callalily

(14,889 posts)
5. I have no doubt that the orange man wants to be president.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:25 AM
Sep 2020

He's gotten away with so much this far, he thinks he's invincible, and frankly with all the crimes he's committed while in office, and has not been held accountable proves his theory.

That said, when Biden and Harris are in the White House I hope they prosecute his a$$ off as well as his family and those close to him.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
10. It is not for Biden and Harris to do that. What will happen in that regard will start with the NY,
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:37 AM
Sep 2020

and what is uncovered there will will allow the AG to enter the picture

However, if we don’t win, he will get away with everything, and it is not hyperbole to say that our democracy will be finished

eppur_se_muova

(36,262 posts)
17. Well, to split hairs, he wants to win the election. Not exactly the same thing.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 09:03 AM
Sep 2020

He wants to be Dictator, not President.

MatthewG.

(362 posts)
7. It won't matter
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:31 AM
Sep 2020

If it’s not caught on camera, Trumpists won’t believe it. If it’s caught on camera, they’ll say something like “look, everyone knows Trump’s a loudmouth .... but .... Biden wants to burn down our cities!”

Rinse and repeat.

magicarpet

(14,150 posts)
12. That trDump holds the military in such low regard is no secret.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 08:43 AM
Sep 2020

His multiple deferments from the Vietnam War because of his bunions and bone spurs.

Telling a child of his,... you join up with the military and you will be permanently disowned in my will.

His treatment of John McCain.

His treatment of Gold Star Families of fallen soldiers.

If one pays attention one would realize this trDump holds the military in very low regard, has a visceral hatred, and detests the military people who serve as being way way below his lofty station in life.

Why anyone in the different branches of the military respects him or would consider voting for him is just amazing and astounding.

He is such a con artist to succeed in pulling this off. Many thanks to extreme right wing radio and television being piped into the military exclusively while the Fux Nuz and the Rush Limbaughs constantly beat the drums of Fascism to our young soldiers heads giving them their political marching orders of who to support and vote for.

TrDump is a Fascist, Limbaugh is a Fascist, many of our military are inclined to be Fascists, soldiers end their military service then become LEOs and many of them are Fascists. Then we wonder how America became over run by Fascists. Half the American voting population 63,000000, are Fascist.

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