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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe "loosers and suckers story"..is the end of Donald Trump..
It reminds me of, "I am not a crook" with Richard Nixon.
...What I remember about, "I am not a crook" was it was so perfect an example of who Nixon was. Nixon was indeed a "crook."
.. Trump calling dead U.S. soldiers, "losers and suckers" is what Trump and his gang are, were and will always be..... Nothing will ever change that, just as we have seen with Richard Nixon. In my opinion Trump defined himself just like Richard Nixon.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)the fallout will be huge when combined with defunding SS and Medicare. Trump can;t run fast enough from his OWN tweets, HIS OWN audio and video recordings on this matter.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Proud liberal 80
(4,167 posts)That something he did or said was the end of him? Not buying it until he loses.
Stuart G
(38,416 posts)...But Trump talking about dead U.S. soldiers in locations outside of the U.S., and refusing to visit
those places, is different. He was in Paris, and the amount of time to get there would have not been
a whole lot. Calling those soldiers who gave their lives, ..."losers and suckers"..goes beyond anything
a sitting President of the United States has done.
...Trump is done. Today is Friday..Wait till this gets to the Sunday news shows. Wait till everyone hears about this story. And everyone will hear about this. It is my opinion, but nothing Trump has said compares with
this.
...This story would be like talking about bombs in WWI and WWII...This kind and that kind. And then at
the end of the talk, you talk about the "Atomic Bomb" that ended WWII.
...Yes, we were talking about bombs of this type and that type. But the "Atomic Bomb" is something else. Please re-read the first paragraphof this post to see the importance of this .."losers and suckers" story.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)He is one slippery SOB.
orwell
(7,771 posts)...from AP Military reporter James LaPorta. Also confirmed by this reporter in live interview on RMS last night.
That makes 6 independent sources on the story.
But it still won't convince true believers.
Also Trump directly lied last night when he said he never called McCain a loser. We have that on tape.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)slowed down on his insults and denigration and attacks on military in many ways. Kelly himself stood at son's grave while Trump insulted him and did nothing.
All Trump has done and interfered with military, the fools still hold him up as their representative. And really, if they have finally had enough with the insults? Fuck them because we have endured for 4 years and they have not cared. Trump purposely making covid address harder for blue states, attacking blue states in his 2017 tax bill and so many other things.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)NT
honest.abe
(8,677 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)jayfish
(10,039 posts)"Fake news".
Unless it's on tape or John Kelly himself confirms it, that's all he has to say and his base will hold.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)If it was my child's grave, I would tell Trump off and walk out of the cemetery and head to the nearest reporter and tell him/her what Trump said.
By keeping silent, he shows nothing but Profiles in Cowardice. Hell of a way for a Marine to act. For his own legacy he can't allow the story to be true.
still_one
(92,136 posts)DSandra
(999 posts)There should be no way for Trumpers to wiggle their way out of this...
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...that indicate this matters to anyone other that those already determined to vote against Trump?
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)and dragging at least one other person out to vote.
I already have converted a Trump voter in Texas, and I'm working on about 8 other people in multiple states.
Stuart G
(38,416 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,745 posts)are the ones too stupid to get out of it. He bragged about his own draft dodging exploits and they still love him.
Think of all the Men Of God who have been publicly exposed as rank sinners who still have dedicated flocks sending them money.
This story tells us nothing new. Trump has been trashing military members for decades, and he even did so quite openly during his campaign. It did not hurt his support.
My greatest hope is that it at least tamps down some enthusiasm among his base. I don't expect anyone to jump to Biden, but maybe some will not be so fervent in their support for trump.
TheRealNorth
(9,478 posts)Its all fake news to them, and the moderates will probably forget this by Election Day.
FloridaBlues
(4,007 posts)Will happen . This isn't Trumps end yet.
That's in November.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)That would have put Trump on defensive and had greatest impact.
Instead this is simply too early. In a week there will be a different topic. That's always the guarantee in Trumpworld
doc03
(35,325 posts)yet. Even if you come up with a video that can't be denied Trump people won't believe it. The veterans I know say its fake news.