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Stuart G

(38,416 posts)
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 02:51 PM Sep 2020

The "loosers and suckers story"..is the end of Donald Trump..

It reminds me of, "I am not a crook" with Richard Nixon.

...What I remember about, "I am not a crook" was it was so perfect an example of who Nixon was. Nixon was indeed a "crook."

.. Trump calling dead U.S. soldiers, "losers and suckers" is what Trump and his gang are, were and will always be..... Nothing will ever change that, just as we have seen with Richard Nixon. In my opinion Trump defined himself just like Richard Nixon.

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The "loosers and suckers story"..is the end of Donald Trump.. (Original Post) Stuart G Sep 2020 OP
lets remember Sept 4th is the day that trump gave us a Biden landslide beachbumbob Sep 2020 #1
Astute observation. n/t Laelth Sep 2020 #2
Thank You. Stuart G Sep 2020 #4
How many times have we heard Proud liberal 80 Sep 2020 #3
Yes, we have heard a lot, from a lot, and by a whole lot of people. Stuart G Sep 2020 #14
What confirmation do we have on this story exboyfil Sep 2020 #5
Separate confirmation... orwell Sep 2020 #20
Trump ridiculed and slammed a dead soldier and his family during the 2016 election and has not LizBeth Sep 2020 #6
There are many things that should have been the end of Donald Trump. LisaL Sep 2020 #7
That should be "loosers and suuckers" honest.abe Sep 2020 #8
At the end of this journey, Trump will be bigly looser and suucker. NCjack Sep 2020 #16
Two Words: jayfish Sep 2020 #9
No chance Kelly confirms it exboyfil Sep 2020 #15
It should be still_one Sep 2020 #10
I would say that IF there was audio... DSandra Sep 2020 #11
Do we have ANY actual evidence (polls, etc)... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #12
his end is every one of us getting out and voting qazplm135 Sep 2020 #13
Thank You for your work. Converting Trump voters is extremely important..Thanks Again. Stuart G Sep 2020 #17
I know Nam vets who love Ted Nugent, even though he said the only ones to serve Midnight Writer Sep 2020 #18
You seriously underestimate the ability of the Republican Party to swallow whatever Trump tells them TheRealNorth Sep 2020 #19
This story will stick around for few days and something else FloridaBlues Sep 2020 #21
I wish it had surfaced just prior to the first debate Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #22
I have to disagree, it will blow over in a day or two. I haven't seen one Trump flag come down doc03 Sep 2020 #23
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. lets remember Sept 4th is the day that trump gave us a Biden landslide
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 02:53 PM
Sep 2020

the fallout will be huge when combined with defunding SS and Medicare. Trump can;t run fast enough from his OWN tweets, HIS OWN audio and video recordings on this matter.

Stuart G

(38,416 posts)
14. Yes, we have heard a lot, from a lot, and by a whole lot of people.
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:09 PM
Sep 2020

...But Trump talking about dead U.S. soldiers in locations outside of the U.S., and refusing to visit
those places, is different. He was in Paris, and the amount of time to get there would have not been
a whole lot. Calling those soldiers who gave their lives, ..."losers and suckers"..goes beyond anything
a sitting President of the United States has done.

...Trump is done. Today is Friday..Wait till this gets to the Sunday news shows. Wait till everyone hears about this story. And everyone will hear about this. It is my opinion, but nothing Trump has said compares with
this.

...This story would be like talking about bombs in WWI and WWII...This kind and that kind. And then at
the end of the talk, you talk about the "Atomic Bomb" that ended WWII.

...Yes, we were talking about bombs of this type and that type. But the "Atomic Bomb" is something else. Please re-read the first paragraphof this post to see the importance of this .."losers and suckers" story.

orwell

(7,771 posts)
20. Separate confirmation...
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:39 PM
Sep 2020

...from AP Military reporter James LaPorta. Also confirmed by this reporter in live interview on RMS last night.

That makes 6 independent sources on the story.

But it still won't convince true believers.

Also Trump directly lied last night when he said he never called McCain a loser. We have that on tape.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
6. Trump ridiculed and slammed a dead soldier and his family during the 2016 election and has not
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 02:57 PM
Sep 2020

slowed down on his insults and denigration and attacks on military in many ways. Kelly himself stood at son's grave while Trump insulted him and did nothing.

All Trump has done and interfered with military, the fools still hold him up as their representative. And really, if they have finally had enough with the insults? Fuck them because we have endured for 4 years and they have not cared. Trump purposely making covid address harder for blue states, attacking blue states in his 2017 tax bill and so many other things.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
9. Two Words:
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:01 PM
Sep 2020

"Fake news".

Unless it's on tape or John Kelly himself confirms it, that's all he has to say and his base will hold.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
15. No chance Kelly confirms it
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:10 PM
Sep 2020

If it was my child's grave, I would tell Trump off and walk out of the cemetery and head to the nearest reporter and tell him/her what Trump said.

By keeping silent, he shows nothing but Profiles in Cowardice. Hell of a way for a Marine to act. For his own legacy he can't allow the story to be true.

DSandra

(999 posts)
11. I would say that IF there was audio...
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:03 PM
Sep 2020

There should be no way for Trumpers to wiggle their way out of this...

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
12. Do we have ANY actual evidence (polls, etc)...
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:04 PM
Sep 2020

...that indicate this matters to anyone other that those already determined to vote against Trump?

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
13. his end is every one of us getting out and voting
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:05 PM
Sep 2020

and dragging at least one other person out to vote.

I already have converted a Trump voter in Texas, and I'm working on about 8 other people in multiple states.

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
18. I know Nam vets who love Ted Nugent, even though he said the only ones to serve
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:16 PM
Sep 2020

are the ones too stupid to get out of it. He bragged about his own draft dodging exploits and they still love him.

Think of all the Men Of God who have been publicly exposed as rank sinners who still have dedicated flocks sending them money.

This story tells us nothing new. Trump has been trashing military members for decades, and he even did so quite openly during his campaign. It did not hurt his support.

My greatest hope is that it at least tamps down some enthusiasm among his base. I don't expect anyone to jump to Biden, but maybe some will not be so fervent in their support for trump.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
19. You seriously underestimate the ability of the Republican Party to swallow whatever Trump tells them
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:31 PM
Sep 2020

Its all fake news to them, and the moderates will probably forget this by Election Day.

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
21. This story will stick around for few days and something else
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:42 PM
Sep 2020

Will happen . This isn't Trumps end yet.
That's in November.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
22. I wish it had surfaced just prior to the first debate
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 03:59 PM
Sep 2020

That would have put Trump on defensive and had greatest impact.

Instead this is simply too early. In a week there will be a different topic. That's always the guarantee in Trumpworld

doc03

(35,325 posts)
23. I have to disagree, it will blow over in a day or two. I haven't seen one Trump flag come down
Fri Sep 4, 2020, 04:34 PM
Sep 2020

yet. Even if you come up with a video that can't be denied Trump people won't believe it. The veterans I know say its fake news.

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