Howard Dean on Trump's comments:

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

[Pachamama]

1. Wow...well said Howard Dean!

[Blecht]

2. Kick -- and if you're on Twitter

Retweet that with:

#TrumpHatesOurMilitary

#TrumpHatesVets

#TrumpResignNow

[NurseJackie]

12. Working links for: #TrumpHatesOurMilitary #TrumpHatesVets #TrumpResignNow

#TrumpHatesOurMilitary
#TrumpHatesVets
#TrumpResignNow

[Cha]

49. I just did.. I usually do but this time I forgot.. TY.

[Blue Owl]

3. Bravo Howard

Trump needs to be destroyed. DESTROYED.

[a kennedy]

4. Thank you Howard, and so sorry for your loss, I did not know that about your brother.

[NCjack]

5. Reporters, please ask TRE45ON where he was on December 14, 1974.

I hope all who have special sad dates like Howard demand to know where Donald-fuck-about was on that date.

[dalton99a]

9. About that time:

[Illumination]

15. The caption should read: DJT NY hustler for rent.

[RVN VET71]

23. Don't mock the guy. Can't you see how he bravely hides the pain

of his make-believe bone-spurs?

[Illumination]

29. Speaking of pain, he'd better hang on real tight to that bar of soap in his new prison digs...

[HAB911]

6. More and more should put it in exactly those terms

[lame54]

7. Shakespeare

[dalton99a]

8. Kick

[ProudProgressiveNow]

10. KR NT

[sarge43]

11. What the doctor said.

Condolences sir.

[Hekate]

13. Gods bless you for saying that, Dr Dean

[Illumination]

14. Even though maybe it was a long time ago, those of us who have lost loved ones through

military service, still value their sacrifices, commitments, & mourn their passing...

[NNadir]

16. I didn't know that Dr. Dean's brother was captured and executed.

That was tragic, I'm sure, and I'm also sure the pain never went away, as it can't.

I need less than that to give that awful beast Trump a Fuck you, but I appreciate the good doctor doing so with far more justification.

[coti]

33. I think I vaguely remember the story from way, way back in the day. nt

[sarchasm]

17. Go Howard! YEEEEEHAAAAWWWWW!!!

... and I mean that in the best and most enthusiastic way.

[RussellCattle]

52. Nicely done.

[2naSalit]

18. Excellent!

I come from a family of six generations serving in the military including currently. And I have been a civil servant for different agencies, I have been offended by that cad since he took office.

[Raven]

19. I have been following the story all day, but this brought me to tears. n/t

[blue-wave]

20. Tell that MF'er Howard!

The memory of my grandmother collapsing as the military gave their gun salute at my uncle’s funeral is forever etched in my mind.

Fuck You! Trump

[Nevilledog]

21. That should be is gravestone: Fuck you, Donald Trump.

[usaf-vet]

42. I think an appropriate gravestone would be a stand-up urinal. So the rest of the cemetery.....

..... doesn't suffer from those who will want to stop by someday and say goodby.

[Nevilledog]

43. True. Why make extra work for the groundskeepers.

[usaf-vet]

45. EXACTLY! Just a plain old porcelain model found in public restrooms. NO GOLD fixtures.

Definitely NOT in a veteran's cemetery. Maybe if things go right it will be in a paupers cemetery on the island off of New York City.

[Nevilledog]

47. What about us females? We want the opportunity too!

[usaf-vet]

50. Excuse me you are right. How about on the backside of the urinal we place a nice porcelain sit.....

.....down toilet. With adequate necessities including running water to flush and a sink wash your hands.

Sorry, I forgot the females of the species don't like him any more than the males of the species.

[Nevilledog]

51. Perfect!

[RVN VET71]

22. Wy I despise Republicans

They openly mocked John Kerry's 3 Purple Hearts at the 2004 Convention. Their disrespect for the military was displayed with purple bandaids in the shape of a heart. With 4 months in combat, Kerry was wounded 3 times and won the Silver Star. The GOP -- at George W. Bush's -- remember how he protected Texas from the V.C.? -- nominating convention. They mocked and insulted Kerry and his service and I have despised them, every fucking one of them ever since. But I'm not partisan about this. Someone posted somewhere, maybe DU, that McCain was cozying up to his Vietnamese captors and I challenged the post and suggested that the post-er never mock a man who sacrificed and suffered for his country.

But these people, these hateful people here, these low life scum bags, still make me sick to my stomach. It's not just Trump, dammit, it's the whole damned party, and has been for the past 20 years at least.

[ffr]

27. Deplorables in the flesh.

[dalton99a]

35. +1

[Lasher]

44. I will never forget that.

[flibbitygiblets]

24. Jesus. I had no idea. Damn that was a powerful response.

I know it is too early to tell, but damn. This might be the scandal that finally does this f**ker in.

[BigBearJohn]

25. I agree 100% This is going to snowball. Wow

[ffr]

26. Thank you, Howard Dean!

[cp]

28. Yes, sir!

My heart has been heavy since I read the Atlantic article. This made me cry.

[bucolic_frolic]

30. OMG, I never knew that

Trump overturned a hornet's nest, and the episode is reaching public awareness at this crucial time before the election. I doubt the timing is by accident. Patriots are closing ranks, saying in effect, no four more.

[BootinUp]

31. Howard doesn't mince words.

[coti]

32. Woooow.

My god. Now that is some fucking righteous anger.

[AlexSFCA]

53. long overdue

we need more of that. tired of constant rationalizations of trump.

[MerryBlooms]

34. R&K

[dsp3000]

36. I have a family member who works for jpac, the agency that has the powmia flag and locates remains

They recovered deans brother's body and Howard Dean personally thanked all of them. Nothing but respect for Dean and for that agency!

[BumRushDaShow]

37. K&R

Dean's sentiment is rippling through the military community - notably the families who lost loved ones.

[KatyaR]

38. Dang, Howard, speakin' the truth.

I had forgotten this. That asshole in the WH has put his foot in his mouth one time too many.

[SheltieLover]

39. K&R!

Ty for sharing!

[Laelth]

40. That sounds like a reasonable response to me. n/t

-Laelth

[crickets]

41. I had no idea Dean lost his brother this way. How tragic.

There are so many who lost loved ones who served and have had the painful wound of loss ripped open again by trump's callous words and actions. Good for Howard Dean for calling him out.

[bdamomma]

46. tRump

more nails in your coffin. You bastard.

[Cha]

48. Thank You, Howard Dean! And, your brother, Charlie.

[DFW]

54. If anyone wants to read what Howard wrote about his brother, this explains much:

http://www.crocuta.net/Dean/Charlie_Dean.htm

A friend of mine worked with the Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency until his retirement from the Pentagon some ten or so years ago. He passed away two years ago, and was widely known for something he in reality was not. His last active years were spent looking for closure for the families of Vietnam (etc.) MIAs. Though best known as a radio announcer in Saigon in the 1960s (the portrayal of him by Robin Williams in a movie had almost nothing to do with what really happened), Adrian said that his most rewarding posting was that last one.

[qanda]

55. I was not expecting that ending

😂 But, it was well said.

[denem]

56. Dr. Dean speaks for me.

[grantcart]

57. The tweet contains a major factual error, he was not executed by the North Vietnamese

I have the highest respect for Dr. Dean but the fact is that while many Americans were executed in Laos it was all done by the Pathet Lao and always against the wishes of the North Vietnamese who wanted to keep the POWs alive so that they could be traded for prisoners and for public relations reasons.

It is a common trope to accuse the North Vietnamese of these actions but our government has long admitted in secret documents that the North pressured the Pathet Lao to stop executing Americans as is detailed in this unclassified document:

https://www.loc.gov/item/powmia/pw003473/

To understand why the Pathet Lao executed Americans it is important to understand the context of US operations in Laos. The United States dropped more tonnage of bombs on Laos than any other country in history, including Germany during WWII:

http://legaciesofwar.org/about-laos/secret-war-laos/#:~:text=From%201964%20to%201973%2C%20the,country%20per%20capita%20in%20history.

From 1964 to 1973, the U.S. dropped more than two million tons of ordnance on Laos during 580,000 bombing missions—equal to a planeload of bombs every 8 minutes, 24-hours a day, for 9 years – making Laos the most heavily bombed country per capita in history

Unfortunately, as can happen in war, mistakes were made when you drop bombs more than 500,000 times. President Obama extended sympathy to the Laotian people and offered assistance in clearing up hundreds of thousands unexploded ordnance. The US estimates that more than 20,000 Laotian civilians have been hurt or killed by unexploded bombs. Only 1% of the area covered by these unexploded bombs has been cleared.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37286520


When the CIA bombers (not the Air Force) made an error and accidentally bombed a suburb in Vientiane with massive loss of life the Pathet Lao executed 74 American POWs and warned the US that further bombing of civilian areas would result in additional executions.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/DOC_0000119211.pdf

As noted above the North Vietnamese were not only not executing Americans in Laos they were pressuring the Pathet Lao to stop executing them.

The story and execution of Charles Dean is well documented, he was a back packer who accidentally drifted on a raft into Laotian territory (the area is very close to where the Thai football team got trapped and saved in the cave).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Charles_Dean_and_Neil_Sharman

My guess is that a local Pathet Lao either killed them because of personal animus because he had lost relatives to the bombing or that they died during some ham handed interrogation effort. Charles was not a serviceman nor with the CIA (the CIA had a small army of Hmong in Laos and had no need of an American who didn't speak the language, nor would they have used a raft to infiltrate Laos as they had a very large "secret air force" called Air America that controlled the air over Laos.

Interesting side note is that while we didn't have diplomatic relations with North Vietnam the United States never broke relations with Laos and maintained a small consulate in the country.

Charles Dean death is a sad event, especially for the Dean family but he was not executed by the North Vietnamese. Whenever you see a story about Americans "executed" by the North Vietnamese it is almost certainly a short hand reference to events in Laos which the NV did not control.

[calimary]

58. That's my Hollerin' Howard! (HEART!)

I’ve loved him since I first heard/heard about him in 2004.

I remember that cool campaign button of his, “Dean for America” with the rainbow. I actually wore it around on my shoulder bag strap, and I ordinarily don’t ever do that. But I was out in the open about him. A woman even came up to me asking about that campaign button and where she could get one. I kept it, and kept the matching bumper sticker in my car’s back window even after John Kerry got the nomination. And I actively supported Kerry from then on, but my heart still belonged to Howard Dean.

STILL love my Howard. The doctor is STILL and very definitely IN!

[MFGsunny]

59. Now THESE are indeed PERFECT WORDS for MF45! Thanks, Dr. Dean! n/t