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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI could see the republicans trying to push trump to resign before the election
or perhaps doing a 25th amendment.
The incentive for trump to resign would be that Pence would pardon trump in the lame duck period before the new president is sworn in
The problem with that plan is that Pence would have to be as corrupt as trump, which he probably is, and be willing to pardon trump
When Nixon resigned Ford did a full and unconditional pardon for Nixon for any crimes that he might have committed against the US as president. Problem with that is different states have different rules for someone to get on the ballot for the election, and in some states the ballots have already been mailed out
At least this time the press is not giving trump a free pass this time like they did in 2016, or for that matter have been doing for decades.
The problem for the republicans is that they have been rubber stamping everything trump has been doing since he took office, and I don't think they will be able to recover from that by the election
It is obvious that trump is now pushing the theme that their will be a vaccine by October. thinking that will save him. I do not think it will save him from the disparaging remarks he has made against our troops from this.
Even if a vaccine was released in October, it is doubtful there will be many takers since the credibility of this administration, and its influence on the CDC and FDA is extremely low.
So, I would not be surprised if the republicans tried to pull a "Gerald Ford Pardon" or exercise the 25th amendment. Pence would become the President for the remainder of trump's term, but I am not sure if he automatically becomes the republican nominee in place of trump on the ballots for the election
(Note: I edited this because I conveyed some incorrect information. If trump resigns or the 25th amendment is exercised, Pence becomes president to serve out the remainder of his term
DarthDem
(5,255 posts)I mean, people have been saying that Trump would resign over this or that for years now. He hasn't, and with the election this close, he absolutely won't. The GOP is weak and has no spine to push him out.
still_one
(92,187 posts)I also speculated they could do a 25th amendment against trump, where it wouldn't be up to trump
I agree it is too late at this stage
LisaL
(44,973 posts)He ain't going anywhere.
still_one
(92,187 posts)Comey did, by sending an email to the republicans in congress 11 days before the election
LisaL
(44,973 posts)of Trump admitting he likes to grab women. Some republicans were asking him to drop out but he didn't.
He isn't going to resign.
still_one
(92,187 posts)was overshadowed by the so-called email scandal, which was nothing, but the illustrious press, and Comey made it appear as such
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)couldn't save him from prosecution in New York.
Can you imagine though? A televised trial in New York? Trump would be so hyped up by world wide ratings a conviction would be secondary. He'd have something to brag about in prison.
still_one
(92,187 posts)NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)They're not overly busy these days.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Instead he received a pass, year after year.
So I am not holding my breath.
They, however, if they had the will to do it, could put the whole klan in jail, and take every penny of their assets. Laundering russian mob money is strictly forbidden, and open to RICO prosecution.
But again, I am not holding my breath.
Prove me wrong, Letitia!!!
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)We're living in an upside down world it seems so seeing them in jail isn't completely out of the question.
#FeelingOptimistic
Desert grandma
(804 posts)Then he will have Pence pardon him and all the rest of his criminal enablers before January 20th. The Republican party of Trump will then be totally destroyed. Maybe a new opposition party can rise our of its ashes. We shall see.
still_one
(92,187 posts)RockRaven
(14,966 posts)And many Trumpers will if the Dear Leader is replaced.
still_one
(92,187 posts)or said throughout his term
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)What means "appoint"? If he quits, Pence takes over and that's that.
still_one
(92,187 posts)he is already president
I changed it in the OP accordingly
Thanks
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Can you clarify what you mean, please?
The incentive for trump to resign would be that whoever they appoint would pardon trump in the lame duck period before the new president is sworn in
The problem with that plan is that they would have to find someone as corrupt as trump who would be willing to pardon trump, or force him out with the 25th amendment where Pence would then become president for the remaining term.
In the scenario you present, wouldn't Pence automatically become president if Chump were to resign before the election? How would the Repigs "appoint" his successor? It would be Pence.
Also, why would the Repigs "have to find someone as corrupt as trump who would be willing to pardon trump"? Again, the Repigs wouldn't have to "find someone"...Pence would automatically step in.
Am I missing your point?
still_one
(92,187 posts)exercised
For some reason I thought the RNC would appoint his successor, but he is an active president so that does not apply
Thanks
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)You had me going! I can't tell you how many times I read your OP, thinking I was having a senior moment.
still_one
(92,187 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,769 posts)They have oodles of russian money in their campaigns and personal businesses... Plus their lobbying firms awash in russian money.
The only way they can be saved now is if he has more TIAs and is down for the count.
apnu
(8,756 posts)There is no realistic scenario where Trump resigns and the GOP wins the election.
Forget the fact that Trump is famous for scorched-earth actions who would make the election even more of a circus than it already is. Pretend Trump has an iota of honor and peacefully resigns, his QAnon/Teabagger base would go nuts and destroy the GOP in this cycle and several cycles after of civil war through the primary process.
still_one
(92,187 posts)against trump they might think it could save some of them in congress
They would have trouble selling that regardless since they have rubber stamped everything he has done up to now
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still_one
(92,187 posts)foreign power to have them find dirt on a political opponent in return for loans. His interactions with a foreign power to interfere with the election, plus what was brought up in the Mueller report, Obstruction of Justice and abuse of power.
Because he wasn't convicted by the Senate, does not mean he is innocent, and impeachment is a political process, just to remove him for office, not whether he committed a crime or not
In the Mueller report there are plenty of things he could be charged with in addition to Obstruction of Justice and abuse of power
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still_one
(92,187 posts)NY is leading the charge on this. I am pretty sure there is more than enough concrete proof
Trumps DOJ has been working to block this information, including the full Mueller report
No one goes to such lengths to hide such information unless he has done something wrong