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MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:30 PM Sep 2012

Mitt doesn't understand why the windows don't open in a jet airplane.

Yes, folks he is now officially stupider than W.

Comments made at a Beverly Hills fund-raiser when asked about Ann's in-flight emergency:


“I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don’t think she knows just how worried some of us were,” Romney said. “When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no — and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she’s safe and sound.”


An of course the usual bullshit that conservatives are persona non grata in oh-so-liberal-Hollywood.

"I know in some of the communities around this particular hotel it’s hard to let people know you’re conservative without them looking at you funny," Romney said, before noting that he had lunch with “a very famous actor — very famous. Very liberal. I won’t tell you his name or he’d shoot me… He pulled me aside, he said, ‘In this town, you really can’t get work unless you’re known as a liberal,’ and he said, ‘But no one knows how I really vote.’ And there are a lot of people that feel that way.”


From the LA Times
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-beverly-hills-fundraiser-20120922,0,2317962.story

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Mitt doesn't understand why the windows don't open in a jet airplane. (Original Post) MindPilot Sep 2012 OP
REALLY, Mitt? Omigod. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2012 #1
Do you think he knows there's not much oxygen up there anyway? Barack_America Sep 2012 #97
That's my question.. Why Syzygy Sep 2012 #160
Oxygen is not fuel for a fire ashling Sep 2012 #162
Yeah, why NOT a wing window, like they used to have in cars. Duhhhhh dixiegrrrrl Sep 2012 #109
That's frighteningly stupid Warpy Sep 2012 #2
and it would feed the fire Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #3
Mitt is too stupid to understand the basics of aviation. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #12
thank for typing this so i don't have to... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #129
Don't worry; it's physically impossible to open airplane doors The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #13
you can't make anything foolproof Warpy Sep 2012 #70
True, but opening airplane doors isn't that easy The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #72
There was one incident that happened on the cargo plane I worked on in the Air Force cpwm17 Sep 2012 #96
This was an aircraft that was mostly depressurized already Major Nikon Sep 2012 #115
Exactly cpwm17 Sep 2012 #154
What's more frightening is that he thinks it a problem. MindPilot Sep 2012 #14
OMG! Too funny! sammytko Sep 2012 #23
Pay for it by cutting insulin subsidies at schools for terminally diabetic children demwing Sep 2012 #76
Good one! classof56 Sep 2012 #90
A problem for him to invest his personal millions in. Barack_America Sep 2012 #107
"No Passenger Left Behind" as they are sucked out into the atmosphere at 30,000 feet. Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #145
I'm convinced his diplomas were bought and paid for by dad..n/t monmouth Sep 2012 #19
Actually, I think his dad had more integrity than that demwing Sep 2012 #79
Someone SHOULD ask... Plucketeer Sep 2012 #84
...and that breeze would be 50-60 degrees below zero. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #27
But don't you see? It would put the fire out. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #39
Yeah, but those jet engines are noisy. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #41
What's really truly frighteningly stupid... amerciti001 Sep 2012 #167
Love it. "I had lunch with a secretly conservative Liberal (can't tell you his name)". . . Journeyman Sep 2012 #4
Clint Eastwood. :>) pangaia Sep 2012 #46
Um...hello? Clint spoke at the R. Convention. And no way is Mel Brooks not a Democrat! WinkyDink Sep 2012 #52
Mel Brooks? I hadn't heard that before. nt Cha Sep 2012 #88
Mel recently turned Republican Texas-Limerick Sep 2012 #149
link, please? this seems astonishingly unlikely. n/t eggplant Sep 2012 #166
It was tongue in cheek Texas-Limerick Sep 2012 #170
Wait a sec,...Who exactly was claiming WE "think they're victims"? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #73
Well, Mitt thinks he is a victim because he isn't Latino. He says being Latino would tblue37 Sep 2012 #101
Naw,...it drips too much... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #103
Kelsey Grammer is a well-known conservative as well. nt NickB79 Sep 2012 #125
yeah, but like all whiny republicans he complains ... that he's no longer a-list since he "came out" unblock Sep 2012 #126
he had already come out when he won multiple emmys JI7 Sep 2012 #175
yup. still, he complains.... unblock Sep 2012 #177
What about those mask-like apparati that fall from the thing over your head? DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #5
That's what I thought - has he never flown commercially? treestar Sep 2012 #28
Private aircraft do have them. DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #36
About 15 years ago, my sister was on a flight that landed with such a hard bump that the oxygen mask gkhouston Sep 2012 #100
Yep, each one drops down in front of you along with a private EMT. Indpndnt Sep 2012 #111
You only need them because Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #30
Maybe they could install some ventilated box-type units on the roof. DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #38
Oxygen masks on airliners only deploy in case of cabin depressurization, what you need for smoke.... LongTomH Sep 2012 #156
I was looking for The Onion link demtenjeep Sep 2012 #6
Aparently he has never seen this... MindPilot Sep 2012 #9
Ummm... that's been debunked many times. PavePusher Sep 2012 #65
Oh come on... MindPilot Sep 2012 #86
My bad. I'm up past my brain's bed-time. PavePusher Sep 2012 #108
Well, sort of... Hissyspit Sep 2012 #119
Yikes! Maybe I'll stop trying to get a window seat when I fly. FailureToCommunicate Sep 2012 #151
Just don't sleep leaning against the window/wall. n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #163
Damn, didn't realize you beat me to it! robertpaulsen Sep 2012 #143
Now wait just a damn minute. nolabear Sep 2012 #7
It seems that he doesn't know how to put out a fire. slampoet Sep 2012 #8
Feed it oxygen and fires go out. Everyone knows this. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #32
good lord. renate Sep 2012 #10
Yes, why does he think he knows better? treestar Sep 2012 #71
Sooo? DemKittyNC Sep 2012 #11
If I could rec your post a brazillion times I would. Some coffee on keyboard but that's ok..LOL..n/ monmouth Sep 2012 #21
Mitts response: well, thats what dogs do in a car when they're not tied to the roof, so why can't a CAG Sep 2012 #26
HA! Aeroette Sep 2012 #60
hehe DemKittyNC Sep 2012 #66
Seamus had lots of fresh air, and he never caught on fire once. JBoy Sep 2012 #93
And this guy wants to be president? Wow, just... wow. Initech Sep 2012 #15
That is amazingly stupid. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #16
He still calls it an aircraft Mponti Sep 2012 #17
This drives Chris Matthews absolutely crazy! tallahasseedem Sep 2012 #57
He can be Dick-tater of Dumbfuckistan. Nt PCIntern Sep 2012 #18
Oh now I would really like to see a Survivor show starring Twit Mitt. Kalidurga Sep 2012 #20
Heck, Gilligan's Island would be good enough. hunter Sep 2012 #24
yep, with Ryan as Gilligan CrazyOrangeCat Sep 2012 #43
My God, HOW COULD ANYONE want him for a president..he onecent Sep 2012 #22
Mitt's preferred form of travel chowder66 Sep 2012 #25
How convient! Some actor said that to him, but Mitt "can't" tell us who it was. Uh, huh. nt patrice Sep 2012 #29
And this idiot wants to be our president? He makes Jr. look like a genius. appleannie1 Sep 2012 #31
Mitt is lying through his pearlies. That "Liberal actor" story made the rounds on gossip sites WinkyDink Sep 2012 #33
Photo of Romney with this caption needed! frogmarch Sep 2012 #34
I thought the cockpit ones did ryan_cats Sep 2012 #35
They do. Most airplanes have cockpit side windows that can be opened The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #50
Shhh! They don't tell Mitt that they open... pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #77
fwiw, here is info and photo of the plane type. Idiot, cruises @ 529 mph uppityperson Sep 2012 #37
LOL Presidential candidate's wife rockin' a CANADIAN-MADE airframe! Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #133
Maybe he needs a convertible plane............. thelordofhell Sep 2012 #40
Two things.... Cali_Democrat Sep 2012 #42
Take him to 30k feet and blow the hatch. liberal N proud Sep 2012 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #49
LOL! Jennicut Sep 2012 #98
OMG...!! ailsagirl Sep 2012 #45
PROOF that Romney LIED with that "actor" story (BESIDES the obvious counter-example of Clint!): WinkyDink Sep 2012 #47
Let's not forget these celebrities... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #81
Diane Keaton wore the "Annie Hall" hat to the WH? Cool!...or something... Ken Burch Sep 2012 #92
Hell, even REAGAN was a Hollywood Republican tarheelsunc Sep 2012 #136
Isn't that Tony Bennett to the right of Dudley Moore? redqueen Sep 2012 #137
I thought so too. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #142
No, that's Gary Morton, Lucille Ball's husband SemperEadem Sep 2012 #147
Ah, thanks. redqueen Sep 2012 #153
Sounds like he was exaggerating for dramatic effect. Ruby the Liberal Sep 2012 #48
Mitt has no common sense. oldbanjo Sep 2012 #51
Reminiscent of his Laurajr Sep 2012 #53
Didn't Payne Stewart die because his window DID open? or at least the seals failed? angstlessk Sep 2012 #54
Google is your friend. "Undetermined reasons." WinkyDink Sep 2012 #59
EXACTLY...depressurazation...open windows would cause that at high altitudes! angstlessk Sep 2012 #62
How can you say 'Undetermined reasons." when what you link to says angstlessk Sep 2012 #63
Why did it lose pressure? whopis01 Sep 2012 #114
No. The likely cause was a failure of the pressurization system. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #69
+1 Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #131
I urge Romney to attempt to open an aircraft window in flight. I'm sure he'll Proles Sep 2012 #55
I know *I* would be! ;) nt tblue37 Sep 2012 #102
K&R nt avebury Sep 2012 #56
Please tell mehow you get into Harvard grad school not knowing this... CTyankee Sep 2012 #58
My sister has a Doctors Degree, but has no common sense. oldbanjo Sep 2012 #64
Are they the ones that open the doors on the subs? Rozlee Sep 2012 #157
Well THIS ought to scare you: I have met a significant number of physicians over kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #85
By having a wealthy, connected father. Marr Sep 2012 #110
Mittens, I think we all wish those windows did open. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #61
Why, did he fart? Freddie Sep 2012 #67
The man's about as sharp as a bowling ball... n/t backscatter712 Sep 2012 #68
There's a silver lining here... DreamGypsy Sep 2012 #74
I am sick of these motherfucking snakes central scrutinizer Sep 2012 #113
Yeah, where's Samuel Jackson when you need him? cascadiance Sep 2012 #135
Oh dear. This just gets worser and worser. AllyCat Sep 2012 #75
Help me, DU! I'm on the verge of feeling sorry for this numbnuts! Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #78
He needs to join Arthur Weasley's project of finding out how airplanes stay up n/t eridani Sep 2012 #80
If only airplanes had O2 masks above each seat. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #82
Pssst - I know who the actor was ThoughtCriminal Sep 2012 #83
yeah, open the window for the dumb ass ... YOHABLO Sep 2012 #87
I bet mitt's Lying his head off about "the liberal voter".. Cha Sep 2012 #89
The science is weak with this one. MMMmmm, yes... n/t 4lbs Sep 2012 #91
Yup. Somewhere in the vastness of the cosmos, sarge43 Sep 2012 #176
I think Mitt SHOULD have a campaign plane where the windows open jmowreader Sep 2012 #94
He's officially a MORON. He probably doesn't know how the radio works with valerief Sep 2012 #95
Wow. He's just a dim bulb, isn't he? TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #99
this is just the cherry on top nycbiscuit Sep 2012 #104
Maybe the windows to his plane SHOULD open--in midair meow2u3 Sep 2012 #105
LMAO, that was just hilarious! xD AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #106
Does he also think they need to put screen doors on submarines? nt BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #112
I zipped through the comments, waiting for a punchline that said this was a joke spiderpig Sep 2012 #116
They couldn't open the windows DearAbby Sep 2012 #117
No no no you must NEVER refer to it as an airplane it's "airCRAFT" just as it's NEVER sports Raine Sep 2012 #118
kick kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #120
. Barack_America Sep 2012 #132
Well what's next? Dread Pirate Roberts Sep 2012 #121
That would explain why Gary Oldman, Kelsey Grammar, and Clint Eastwood can't find work. Bucky Sep 2012 #122
Not to mention the drop in temperature nichomachus Sep 2012 #123
He should add this to his platform. LisaL Sep 2012 #124
Did Mitt mistake the "Airplane" comedy movie as a documentary on how to handle aircraft emergencies? Larkspur Sep 2012 #127
That's as effing stupid as Reagan's "tree pollution" inanity. Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #128
A friend just explained it. It's all a matter of economics nichomachus Sep 2012 #130
next he'll want screen doors in submarines.nt Javaman Sep 2012 #134
Damndest thing, planes don't have external luggage racks either! chknltl Sep 2012 #138
Shit Mitt, haven't you ever seen Goldfinger? robertpaulsen Sep 2012 #139
Probably because the Big Government FAA won't allow it. Doctor_J Sep 2012 #140
Damn Regulations! Marie Marie Sep 2012 #150
This is exactly the kind of overy burdensome regulation that Obama has Doctor_J Sep 2012 #178
Oh My F**king God!! uponit7771 Sep 2012 #141
You will be SunsetDreams Sep 2012 #159
Mitt and Ann should fly bi-planes in the future LondonReign2 Sep 2012 #144
With seamus in a cage on the wing SmittynMo Sep 2012 #164
No one can be this stupid. SmittynMo Sep 2012 #165
Mitt Romney's Decompression Airlines Evasporque Sep 2012 #146
There are so many things wrong with this taught_me_patience Sep 2012 #148
Mittens is going to put The Onion out of business! LongTomH Sep 2012 #152
I'd be glad to install a sliding class door on willards plane, no charge ruffburr Sep 2012 #155
I thought this was an Onion story. DCBob Sep 2012 #158
I actually thought Mitt was kinda smart at first War Horse Sep 2012 #161
One would think he might have picked up on that after playing SirRevolutionary Sep 2012 #168
Saw the text below in the comments at Think Progress ... LOL Tx4obama Sep 2012 #169
Crazy, man. Crazy MrScorpio Sep 2012 #171
K & R Care Acutely Sep 2012 #172
.. Jamaal510 Sep 2012 #173
Mitt Romney: The gift that keeps giving. KANTANA Sep 2012 #174
Ummmmm...Willard..... polmaven Sep 2012 #179

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
97. Do you think he knows there's not much oxygen up there anyway?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:48 PM
Sep 2012

And, furthermore, that oxygen is fuel for fire?

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
160. That's my question..
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:29 PM
Sep 2012

He wants to add oxygen to a fire? That's crazy. Don't let him near your oxygen tent.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,140 posts)
109. Yeah, why NOT a wing window, like they used to have in cars. Duhhhhh
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:19 PM
Sep 2012

I swear to god, I thought my neighbor was stupid, but Mittwit has him beat by miles.

Warpy

(114,363 posts)
2. That's frighteningly stupid
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:33 PM
Sep 2012

Expect him to open one of the emergency doors in mid flight just to get some fresh air.

He really has no clue about conditions outside the plane, or the fact that the plane is traveling at 300-500 MPH. That would make for one hell of a breeze through an open window, along with depressurization and a lack of oxygen.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(128,830 posts)
12. Mitt is too stupid to understand the basics of aviation.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:40 PM
Sep 2012

This means he doesn't know:

1. That you can't open an airplane's doors in flight while the airplane is pressurized; it's physically impossible. They are designed to fit in the door frame and seal so they won't accidentally open (or be deliberately opened by Mitt Romney) and depressurize the thing at 35,000 feet and kill everybody.

2. That if you could open the doors or windows, the pressure inside the plane would cause the air to rush out of it, leaving the passengers without any. At 35,000 feet you would lose consciousness in less than a minute and be dead as a mackerel before much longer.

In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, wadda maroon.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(128,830 posts)
13. Don't worry; it's physically impossible to open airplane doors
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:42 PM
Sep 2012

when the airplane is pressurized. They designed them to be safe from people like Mitt Romney.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(128,830 posts)
72. True, but opening airplane doors isn't that easy
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:22 PM
Sep 2012

even when the airplane isn't pressurized. Have you ever had a good look at those things? The amount of air pressure on a door in flight really would make it impossible.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
96. There was one incident that happened on the cargo plane I worked on in the Air Force
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:45 PM
Sep 2012

After the aircraft had landed a very strong individual managed to open the passenger door when there was still slight pressure on the aircraft. The pilot hadn't yet opened his window which is standard procedure to insure complete depressurization. Unfortunately the individual and the passenger standing right next to him were flung out the door and on to the pavement. One of them was killed.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
115. This was an aircraft that was mostly depressurized already
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:44 AM
Sep 2012

The way pressurization systems work is they try to maintain a set pressure level that coincides with the standard pressure at a particular altitude, say 8 or 10,000' MSL. Below that altitude the pressure that the pressurization system provides is going to be less or nil. At altitude you'd need superhuman strength to open a door. That's why D.B. Cooper ordered the crew to keep the aircraft unpressurized before he made his jump.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
154. Exactly
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:59 PM
Sep 2012

The air conditioners were running on the ground, and I suppose the cabin pressure outflow valves weren't adequately opened to neutralize pressure. Also, on a very large cargo aircraft it doesn't take much pressure to create a high volume of air out a small door.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
14. What's more frightening is that he thinks it a problem.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:42 PM
Sep 2012

Which means it needs to be fixed. Look for house republicans to introduce the "Aircraft Ventilation Improvement Act".

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
76. Pay for it by cutting insulin subsidies at schools for terminally diabetic children
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:31 PM
Sep 2012

and you've got a bill GOPers will line up to co-sponsor!

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
145. "No Passenger Left Behind" as they are sucked out into the atmosphere at 30,000 feet.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:36 PM
Sep 2012
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
79. Actually, I think his dad had more integrity than that
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:32 PM
Sep 2012

the Mitt apple fell far from the tree

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
84. Someone SHOULD ask...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:47 PM
Sep 2012

to see Mitt's birth certificate. Maybe insist on some DNA certification too.

Somewhere - a can of worms has heard about this and are feeling pretty intelligent right now!

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
27. ...and that breeze would be 50-60 degrees below zero.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:18 PM
Sep 2012

Kinda chilly at 35,000 feet.

amerciti001

(158 posts)
167. What's really truly frighteningly stupid...
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 04:38 PM
Sep 2012

Is the fact, that this dimwit doesn't understand-depressurization. Really!!, go right ahead, open that window(?), at 32,000 feet!? Talk about being simply Stupid!!

Journeyman

(15,418 posts)
4. Love it. "I had lunch with a secretly conservative Liberal (can't tell you his name)". . .
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:37 PM
Sep 2012

because no conservative can get work in Hollywood -- just ask Bruce Willis, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tom Selleck. . .

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
52. Um...hello? Clint spoke at the R. Convention. And no way is Mel Brooks not a Democrat!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:50 PM
Sep 2012

tblue37

(68,107 posts)
101. Well, Mitt thinks he is a victim because he isn't Latino. He says being Latino would
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:59 PM
Sep 2012

make it so much easier to get elected president--obviously, since we have had soooo many Latino presidents in this country! Older white guys really have been unjustly locked out of that office for far too long.

(Do I need the sarcasm tag?)

unblock

(55,859 posts)
126. yeah, but like all whiny republicans he complains ... that he's no longer a-list since he "came out"
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:01 PM
Sep 2012

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
5. What about those mask-like apparati that fall from the thing over your head?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:37 PM
Sep 2012

Hey, Dumbass, didja ever hear of those oxygen mask thingies?

Gee....

treestar

(82,383 posts)
28. That's what I thought - has he never flown commercially?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:18 PM
Sep 2012

Maybe he's always in a private plane? Even first class would have those.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
100. About 15 years ago, my sister was on a flight that landed with such a hard bump that the oxygen mask
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:59 PM
Sep 2012

deployed. She said it looked like something from the '60s... the figure on the bag instructing you in its use had a goatee.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
111. Yep, each one drops down in front of you along with a private EMT.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:34 PM
Sep 2012

He puts the mask on you so you don't strain yourself. It gets a little crowded with an EMT for each seat, but, hey, the rich put up with so much. The little troopers.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
38. Maybe they could install some ventilated box-type units on the roof.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:30 PM
Sep 2012

I think I saw a picture of one atop a station wagon.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
156. Oxygen masks on airliners only deploy in case of cabin depressurization, what you need for smoke....
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:05 PM
Sep 2012

....is a smoke hood:



Description

Smoke Hoods are protective head coverings which, as a minimum, have a filter system that prevents wearers from breathing in unwanted smoke gases and particulates generated in a fire. They may also incorporate a small oxygen generator by which means their useful endurance as a protective device is increased. They are made of a heat resistant material which is able to retain its integrity up to temperatures in excess of 350 degrees Celsius.

The Smoke Hazard

It has long been observed that occupant survival in a major aircraft fire, long enough to effect a successful evacuation, requires not only that a fire does not become a directly debilitating hazard but that the associated smoke does not have a similar effect first. It has also frequently been noted that whilst thermal injuries are responsible for around 20% of fatalities in aircraft fires, the majority of the rest are attributable to the direct or indirect effects of exposure to toxic and/or irritant smoke. Whilst means to reduce overall smoke levels have received much attention, the alternative of finding ways to create a survivable personal environment for individual occupants has also been the subject of much research and debate, and this has led to the development of ‘smoke hoods’.


They're standard equipment for cabin crew. There's been talk of providing them for passengers for decades; but, the airlines have resisted. Whether that's due to the difficulty of showing passengers how to use them in the standard safety lecture, or the added expense is a matter of conjecture.
 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
6. I was looking for The Onion link
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:38 PM
Sep 2012

seriously, he doesn't understand why airplane windows don't open?

Jebus

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
65. Ummm... that's been debunked many times.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:15 PM
Sep 2012

Please let that false meme die a quiet death.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
86. Oh come on...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:54 PM
Sep 2012

Anybody with two brain cells knows it is Three Stooges--level hyperbole. Let us have some fun.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
108. My bad. I'm up past my brain's bed-time.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:05 PM
Sep 2012

And it's been a really long day. The snark went right by me...

Sorry...

nolabear

(43,847 posts)
7. Now wait just a damn minute.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:38 PM
Sep 2012

Is he trying to tell me that there's only oxygen in that plane for the pilot and copilot?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
32. Feed it oxygen and fires go out. Everyone knows this.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:24 PM
Sep 2012

That's why the fire department puts water on a fire, the oxygen atoms in water molecules make the fire go out.

Physics 101.



I can't believe that Romney ever took one exam in person while at Hahvahd.

renate

(13,776 posts)
10. good lord.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:39 PM
Sep 2012

What a great example of how he thinks he always knows best. "I don't know why they don't do that. It's a real problem. So it's very dangerous."

Mitt. Mitt Mitt Mitt. Which direction do you think the oxygen would go if the windows could open? And why would you want to feed a fire with oxygen anyway?

But as stupid as he is, I keep coming back to the arrogance. Boeing has been at this for a while, Mitt. It's not as though the concept of a window that opens simply hadn't occurred to them.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
71. Yes, why does he think he knows better?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:21 PM
Sep 2012

It would be scary to have him in the WH. He does not know what he does not know.

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
11. Sooo?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:40 PM
Sep 2012

It is probably not a good idea then to vote for a man to be President who wonders why his Wife just couldn't had simply opened a window and stuck her head out of a plane travailing in mid flight at speeds of up to 500MPH in order to get some fresh air instead of being confined in a tight space and having to choke on the smoke?

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
21. If I could rec your post a brazillion times I would. Some coffee on keyboard but that's ok..LOL..n/
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:06 PM
Sep 2012

CAG

(1,820 posts)
26. Mitts response: well, thats what dogs do in a car when they're not tied to the roof, so why can't a
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:16 PM
Sep 2012

person do that at 30,000 ft in an airplane??

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
66. hehe
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:15 PM
Sep 2012

@monmouth - Thanks, I will be here all week leave a tip on the bar.

@CAG - Hil-Ar-Ious! belly hurts now from laughing so hard...

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
57. This drives Chris Matthews absolutely crazy!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:54 PM
Sep 2012

I wonder if he'll bring it up on Hardball tomorrow?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
20. Oh now I would really like to see a Survivor show starring Twit Mitt.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:05 PM
Sep 2012

Take the richest people in the world and set them loose in Walmart and make them have to live with only Walmart products for 6 mos. Oh wait, that's not what I meant to type, but that would be funny too. No an actual island with a couple of matches and a tarp that would be hilarious. I bet Mitt couldn't start a fire with a match and kindling. Heck he probably thinks kindling is some kind of electronic device you read a book on.

hunter

(40,326 posts)
24. Heck, Gilligan's Island would be good enough.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:13 PM
Sep 2012

Then he'd be somewhere he couldn't bother the rest of us.

The Romneys would make a fine Mr. & Mrs. Thurston Howell III.

CrazyOrangeCat

(6,112 posts)
43. yep, with Ryan as Gilligan
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:35 PM
Sep 2012

"Oh Gilligan! Would you mind frashening up this drink for me?"

patrice

(47,992 posts)
29. How convient! Some actor said that to him, but Mitt "can't" tell us who it was. Uh, huh. nt
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:20 PM
Sep 2012
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
33. Mitt is lying through his pearlies. That "Liberal actor" story made the rounds on gossip sites
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:24 PM
Sep 2012

long ago. I know; I read it. People were guessing Clooney, Pitt, etc.

Apparently one of Romney's goons read it, too.

frogmarch

(12,250 posts)
34. Photo of Romney with this caption needed!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:24 PM
Sep 2012

“When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no — and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous."

Please, somebody!

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
35. I thought the cockpit ones did
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:26 PM
Sep 2012

I thought the cockpit ones did in the movie Airplane, they did when the guy outside ran the Captain's credit card for the service.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(128,830 posts)
50. They do. Most airplanes have cockpit side windows that can be opened
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:48 PM
Sep 2012

as long as the airplane isn't pressurized. If the airplane is pressurized the windows won't open - they are held shut by a combination of air pressure and a locking mechanism.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
77. Shhh! They don't tell Mitt that they open...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:31 PM
Sep 2012

...because with the shape his campaign is in, they're afraid he might jump.

uppityperson

(115,993 posts)
37. fwiw, here is info and photo of the plane type. Idiot, cruises @ 529 mph
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:29 PM
Sep 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_Challenger_600
Performance

Maximum speed: 882 km/h (476 knots, 548 mph)
Cruise speed: 851 km/h, (459 knots, 529 mph)


 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
42. Two things....
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:35 PM
Sep 2012

1) Romney is an idiot for not knowing why the windows don't open.

2) This whole story smells like bullshit. A ploy to try and get people to feel sorry for Ann and the Romney campaign. I ain't buying it.

Response to liberal N proud (Reply #44)

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
47. PROOF that Romney LIED with that "actor" story (BESIDES the obvious counter-example of Clint!):
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:47 PM
Sep 2012
http://blindgossip.com/?p=42617

He obviously used that gossip board for the anecdote.
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
81. Let's not forget these celebrities...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:40 PM
Sep 2012

Charlton Heston

Audrey Hepburn and Robert Wolders

Frank Sinatra

Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. and Grace Kelly

Charlton Heston, Lydia Heston, Ricardo Montalban and Georgina Montalban

Warren Beatty and Diane Keaton

Cary Grant and Douglas Fairbanks Jr.

Meryl Streep

Steven Spielberg

Tom Selleck, Dudley Moore, Lucille Ball

Christie Brinkley, Cheryl Tiegs and Brooke Shields


Should I go on with more of these celebrities that never found work again in Hollywood after being seen with a Conservative?


Ruby the Liberal

(26,593 posts)
48. Sounds like he was exaggerating for dramatic effect.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:47 PM
Sep 2012

As in Anntoinette had to clear her throat, which became a towering inferno with no fresh air (which would have expanded the fire).

Just another Willardism.

Laurajr

(223 posts)
53. Reminiscent of his
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:53 PM
Sep 2012

The trees are just the right height comment.....he Just says stupid shit because he's just stupid

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
54. Didn't Payne Stewart die because his window DID open? or at least the seals failed?
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:53 PM
Sep 2012

Tell you what...give Romney a jet whose windows DO open..and let him go on his way?

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
62. EXACTLY...depressurazation...open windows would cause that at high altitudes!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:00 PM
Sep 2012

The NTSB determined that the crash was due to an incapacitation of the flight crew members due to a loss of cabin pressurization.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
63. How can you say 'Undetermined reasons." when what you link to says
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:06 PM
Sep 2012
The conditions of the windows are consistent with a loss of pressurization and a subsequent rapid drop of temperature. It is likely that the pilots and occupants may have lost consciousness due to hypoxia, or a lack of oxygen. Between the last communication between the aircraft and air traffic control and the aircraft's final descent, the aircraft was reportedly flying at times in excess of 46,000 feet (the service ceiling is about 45,000 feet).

HOW IS THAT 'UNDERMINED'?

whopis01

(3,907 posts)
114. Why did it lose pressure?
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:40 AM
Sep 2012

That is what is undetermined. Not the fact that pressure was lost, but rather what caused it to happen.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(128,830 posts)
69. No. The likely cause was a failure of the pressurization system.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:19 PM
Sep 2012

The airplane had a history of problems with the system, and there was speculation that a valve for the crew oxygen bottle had been shut off. Military airplanes that were following it saw that the windows were frosted up but intact.

Proles

(466 posts)
55. I urge Romney to attempt to open an aircraft window in flight. I'm sure he'll
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:53 PM
Sep 2012

be amused by what happens next.

oldbanjo

(690 posts)
64. My sister has a Doctors Degree, but has no common sense.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:10 PM
Sep 2012

A lot of smart people on Navy Subs are the same (no common sense).

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
85. Well THIS ought to scare you: I have met a significant number of physicians over
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:47 PM
Sep 2012

the course of my career who are dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to anything other than their particular area of medical specialization.

An ophthalmologist, for instance, took his cat's amoxicillin suspension home and was putting the drops into the cat's eye. You know - THE PINK STUFF THAT SMELLS LIKE BUBBLE GUM because the taste needs to be masked when you give it BY MOUTH? And he's an OPHTHALMOLOGIST. He figured that, since the cat had an eye problem, and we sent a medication home, that it was supposed to go into the eye. Nevermind that we have a pretty cardinal rule in ophthalmology that if it isn't clear, it doesn't go into an eye EVER.

I've got more stories of stoopit physicians and nurses and pharmacists than you'd ever believe. The other professional schools get all the vet school rejects is all I can figure........

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
110. By having a wealthy, connected father.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:23 PM
Sep 2012

I myself have met some real, honest-to-god morons with very impressive pedigrees. They had everything handed to them.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
61. Mittens, I think we all wish those windows did open.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:59 PM
Sep 2012

Dumber than W......didn't think that was possible. And yet, they keep turning rocks over and finding these guys.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
74. There's a silver lining here...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:25 PM
Sep 2012

If, horror of horrors, Mitt is elected, one of his first actions would be to install double hung windows in Air Force 1. Needing a bit of fresh air on that long flight to the Cayman Islands, he would become the first president to be sucked out of a plane at 39,000 feet.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
87. yeah, open the window for the dumb ass ...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:57 PM
Sep 2012

maybe it will suck his brainless head off his shoulders.

Cha

(316,437 posts)
89. I bet mitt's Lying his head off about "the liberal voter"..
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:06 PM
Sep 2012

why? Because he's always lying his damn head off..just to keep that turd polished.

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
176. Yup. Somewhere in the vastness of the cosmos,
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 05:29 AM
Sep 2012

in that spaceship of the imagination, Carl Sagan is banging his forehead bloody on the control panel.

jmowreader

(52,869 posts)
94. I think Mitt SHOULD have a campaign plane where the windows open
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:28 PM
Sep 2012

Come on...get a Piper Cub, install a new engine because Romney's disaster of a campaign is too much fun, write "Romney-Ryan 2012" in letters as large as you can get on the sides of a Piper Cub, and send him out campaigning in it. Considering how far back he wants to set America, it'd be the perfect vehicle for him.

And just how much stuff does Mitt really need to campaign? A couple of suits, a Book of Mormon and a compact the right shade for him are about all he's gotta have.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
95. He's officially a MORON. He probably doesn't know how the radio works with
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:42 PM
Sep 2012

the window closed.

nycbiscuit

(46 posts)
104. this is just the cherry on top
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:56 PM
Sep 2012

this is just the cherry on top of a already fantastic week for Mittens.

meow2u3

(25,238 posts)
105. Maybe the windows to his plane SHOULD open--in midair
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:58 PM
Sep 2012

With him stepping out of it--no parachute necessary!

Couldn't resist.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
116. I zipped through the comments, waiting for a punchline that said this was a joke
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:51 AM
Sep 2012

He reallly IS that stupid.

Ugh. Must go bleach brain.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
117. They couldn't open the windows
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:01 AM
Sep 2012

because of the dog shit raining down, or spraying back towards the tail of the plane..Good thing the Pilot and Co-Pilot had all weather windshield wipers. Opening the wing vent on a window would have been messy, to say the least.

Raine

(31,076 posts)
118. No no no you must NEVER refer to it as an airplane it's "airCRAFT" just as it's NEVER sports
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:10 AM
Sep 2012

it's "SPORT". Tut tut tut I'm afraid you'll never fit in with the Rmoney crowd if you don't learn the proper language.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
132. .
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:13 PM
Sep 2012

Troublemaker.



But seriously, this is one of the best quotes ever. Someone needs to email this to SNL.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,972 posts)
121. Well what's next?
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:09 PM
Sep 2012

Will he be announcing his plans for a NASA mission to the Sun? It will be O.K., they're going to go at night! Just keeping up with the anti-science wing of the Republican party.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
122. That would explain why Gary Oldman, Kelsey Grammar, and Clint Eastwood can't find work.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:13 PM
Sep 2012

Also James Caan, James Woods, Heather Locklear, Linda Carter, John Voigt, Chuck Norris, Craig T. Nelson, Kurt Russell, Bruce Willis, and Sylester Stallone.

And Jerry Bruckheimer can't get any of his little art films made because of Republican-hating Hollywood.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
123. Not to mention the drop in temperature
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:47 PM
Sep 2012

The air up there is around 50 or 60 BELOW zero. That would freeze your lungs in about five seconds -- and you would die.

Let's all remember that this is the guy who claimed he put his dog in an "air tight" box on the roof of his car.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
127. Did Mitt mistake the "Airplane" comedy movie as a documentary on how to handle aircraft emergencies?
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:03 PM
Sep 2012

Thurston Howell III strikes again!!

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
130. A friend just explained it. It's all a matter of economics
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:12 PM
Sep 2012

If the windows could open, they'd have to put in screens to keep the bugs out. That would run into serious money. You have to think these things through carefully.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
138. Damndest thing, planes don't have external luggage racks either!
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:10 PM
Sep 2012

Where is one supposed to tie the dog too?

robertpaulsen

(8,697 posts)
139. Shit Mitt, haven't you ever seen Goldfinger?
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:13 PM
Sep 2012

Worth checking out just for educational purposes!


 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
140. Probably because the Big Government FAA won't allow it.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:19 PM
Sep 2012

if you want the freedom to open your plane window, vote Republican and get the government off your back!

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
178. This is exactly the kind of overy burdensome regulation that Obama has
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 06:41 AM
Sep 2012

used to ruin this country for Big Business. Vote Freedom - Vote Teabag!

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
148. There are so many things wrong with this
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:44 PM
Sep 2012

#1) The air is so thin at 35k and the pressure is so low that nitrogen in the blood expands and you get the bends.
#2) You'll die of suffocation within minutes
#3) Nothing like a -70 degree blast of "air" in your face

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
152. Mittens is going to put The Onion out of business!
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:56 PM
Sep 2012

Their writers just can't match the hilarity of Mitt's gaffes. If Mittens could make jokes like that on purpose he could make a fortune in standup!

War Horse

(931 posts)
161. I actually thought Mitt was kinda smart at first
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:30 PM
Sep 2012

But instead he appears to be not only Dubya stupid, but actually full blown Palin stupid.

The Mitt has hit the fan...

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
168. One would think he might have picked up on that after playing
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 04:47 PM
Sep 2012

the captain in the beloved Airplane movie

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
169. Saw the text below in the comments at Think Progress ... LOL
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 04:53 PM
Sep 2012


"If airplane windows don't roll down, how does the pilot stick his head out the window to make sure his dog is okay?"





KANTANA

(32 posts)
174. Mitt Romney: The gift that keeps giving.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:21 AM
Sep 2012

Comedians, cartoonists and late night talk show hosts have not had it this good in a while!!! Mitt keeps handing them rich juicy material on daily basis. Every word out of Mitt's mouth is either a lie or a gaff- display of absolute ignorance. Really amazing.
It does not surprise me though, because, I will question the intelligence of anyone who believes in MAGIC UNDERWEARS, AND ACTUALLY WEARS THEM, IN A PLANET OR UTOPIA CALLED KOLOB, AND THAT HE WILL BE A GOD WHEN HE DIES AND RULE OVER HIS OWN PLANET!!! Absurd!!
No wonder republicans are against science and intelligence, but celebrate ignorance and religion!!

polmaven

(9,463 posts)
179. Ummmmm...Willard.....
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:26 AM
Sep 2012

That is why they have those little thingies called - um - what are they called now??? Ummm ...

Oh, yeah!!! OXYGEN MASKS that drop in front of your face to be used in cases like that !

Dear Lord, what an idjit!

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