Covid-19 *might've* come from space, per US Govt-published article (NOT the Onion)

[Dennis Donovan]

Link to tweet

Alejandro Montenegro @aemonten

Right... https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7358766/



3:10 PM · Sep 5, 2020

Seriously... click the link in the tweet. We're thru the looking glass, Alice...

[The empressof all]

1. Oh Just Wait!!!!

Soon, Some Wacko will say that it comes directly from Heaven. A gift from God to cleanse the earth of sinners and bring us back to spending more time with our families and loved ones.





Oh no....I hope I'm not that wacko.

[Initech]

8. You can buy it at the supermarket in the cleaning products aisle.

I heard a guy on TV say that once!

[Nevilledog]

2. *sigh*

I haven't had enough coffee to deal with this shit.

[2naSalit]

9. It's past more coffee time for me...

But still before noon. I think I'll have to go take some great big puffs to get through the rest of the day.

[Buckeyeblue]

3. Like the bad 80's movie "Night of the Comet"?

[greatauntoftriplets]

4. OMG, I have to wonder what far-fetched excuse they'll come with next.

[Baked Potato]

5. Seems like a joke article that arrived via someone's imagination.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

6. Edward J. Steele was one of the authors.

Certainly not his first controversial paper.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_J._Steele

During the 1980s and 1990s Ted Steele clashed with the scientific establishment, particularly in the UK, over this hypothesis and his support for Lamarck's place in modern science. Steele has stated publicly in an interview with the ABC program Lateline that his controversial theories have had a strong impact on his career: "To be branded a heretic and a pariah meant that my career to keep doing research in this area were extremely limited."

[eppur_se_muova]

19. Awwwww .... no one likes to fund quackery. Sad, isn't it ?

[DBoon]

7. this thread requires a meme

[ARPad95]

10. From the research abstract:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7358766/pdf/main.pdf

The origins and global spread of two recent, yet quite different, pandemic diseases is discussed and reviewed in depth: Candida auris, a eukaryotic fungal disease, and COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2), a positive strand RNA viral respiratory disease. Both these diseases display highly distinctive patterns of sudden emergence and global spread, which are not easy to understand by conventional epidemiological analysis based on simple infection-driven human- to-human spread of an infectious disease (assumed to jump suddenly and thus genetically, from an animal reservoir). Both these enigmatic diseases make sense however under a Panspermia in-fall model and the evidence consistent with such a model is critically reviewed.

The intro discusses the Spanish Flu Pandemic

However the great exemplar of the emergence of a new pandemic disease of considerable virulence and pathogenicity was the Spanish Flu Pandemic 1918–1919. That pandemic has been analyzed in great detail by Hoyle and Wickramasinghe (1979), and the astute and engaged reader of all that evidence is left with only one conclusion—the Spanish Flu disease came from Space on a massive scale, and killed tens of millions before the advent of air travel.

Authors were not taken seriously

5. Postscript

As this chapter was submitted to the publisher an authoritative news
despatch from Japan reports sporadic outbreaks across the country with no
direct link with China (Appendix B). Further, in early February we tried
to alert the world on our interpretation of the origins of COVID-19 with
many of the same arguments and analyses listed in this chapter. One succinct
letter was sent to The Lancet, and the other was a more general article for a
wider lay readership, to The Australian newspaper—both articles were rejected
by the editors. The archived PDFs of both articles can be found at the viXra.
org site under accession numbers URLs http://viXra.org/abs/2002.0039?
ref¼11076818, and https://vixra.org/abs/2002.0118. However an expanded
comments on the origin and spread of the 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)
has now been published in Wickramasinghe et al. (2020a, 2020b, 2020c),
and see Steele and Lindley (2020) also in discussion in Appendix C.

Acknowledgment
We thank Professor Sanjaya Senanayake for bringing the Candida auris data to our attention
and for discussions.

About Elsevier

Is Elsevier credible?

Elsevier - one of the largest and most notorious scholarly publishers - are monitoring Open Science in the EU on behalf of the European Commission. Jon Tennant argues that they cannot be trusted. ... The European Commission has the ambitious target of achieving Open Access to all scientific publications by 2020.Jun 29, 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier

[eppur_se_muova]

21. Citation of Wickramasinghe is a flaming red flag.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_Wickramasinghe

Guy calls himself an 'astrobiologist' even though he has absolutely nothing unambiguous to 'study'.

[sl8]

11. Publisher seems to be Elsevier.

I believe the National Library of Medicine (NLM) is acting more as a library.

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. Correct - this is one thing the US govt is blameless for

One author is the inevitable N. Chandra Wickramasinghe, who has spent decades (at first with Fred Hoyle) trying to make the case that all kinds of diseases come from space. No-one believes him apart from his cult. How it made it into an Elsevier publication, I'm not sure.

[sl8]

17. Thanks. n/t

[eppur_se_muova]

18. I KNEW Wickramsinghe had to be connected somehow !

He just never gives up on this hypothesis, no matter the total absence of evidence.

[muriel_volestrangler]

28. I can't find out if "Advances in Genetics" is a serious publication or not

though the editor is Dhavendra Kumar of Cardiff University - where Wickramsinghe was for several years. Whether he's a Wickramsinghe acolyte, I don't know.

https://www.elsevier.com/books/book-series/advances-in-genetics

[Vinca]

12. AHA! It was E.T. all along. We should have known.

[global1]

13. Blame It On Trump's Space Force....nt

[KY_EnviroGuy]

14. Space Force has failed us already.

How could they possibly miss that incoming infectious bat rocket from Pluto?


KY.......

[PufPuf23]

16. Article is pretty mush bull shit. Read the disclaimer.

Bats in Wuhan is source of CV19.

[Crunchy Frog]

20. I kept looking to see if the date was April 1st.

[Saboburns]

22. The Andromeda Strain, the only Michael Crichton book I like. Movie was good too.

THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN



STARRING: Arthur Hill, David Wayne, James Olson, Kate Reid, Paula Kelly, George Mitchell, Ramon Bieri

1971, 130 Minutes, Directed by: Robert Wise



Description: Based on the best-selling novel by Michael Crichton, this 1971 thriller, about is about a team of scientists racing against time to destroy a deadly alien virus that threatens to wipe out life on Earth. The emphasis is on an exciting clash between nature and science, beginning when virologists discover the outer-space virus in a tiny town full of corpses. Projecting total contamination, the scientists isolate the deadly strain in a massive, high-tech underground lab facility, which is rigged for nuclear destruction if the virus is not successfully controlled. - Amazon.com

[USALiberal]

26. If you didn't like Jurassic Park then I seriously question your judgement. nt

[Saboburns]

27. I didn't.

And you may question my judgement all you like.

[eppur_se_muova]

23. Summary of argument: We can't think of anything else, so it must be what we want to believe.

The fact that you can't think of another explanation is the weakest argument you can ever present. Process of elimination works only when the choices are finite. Nature always has a more surprising explanation -- often more than one -- that we just hadn't run into yet. Knowledge grows by seeking out the facts actually found in Nature, not by making new 'facts' up.

[lpbk2713]

24. Wasn't that a 1950's 'B' Grade flick?

[roamer65]

25. LOL...no.

The heat from entry in the atmosphere would have cooked any pathogens.

This virus is from the unnecessary interaction with bat species, either in the wild or in a laboratory.