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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy personal, detailed prediction of what Trump will do after losing the 2020 election:
Presidential election 2020. By current polls, Trump would lose. Let's assume he would. What would Trump do after losing?
November 2020 to January 2021
First, Trump will claim victory and allege voter-fraud. Millions of fraudulent votes, just like he did in 2016. He will promise to deliver the evidence "soon".
His followers will dutifully come up with stories how they have witnessed democratic voter-fraud, except they won't have any hard evidence either.
Trump will threaten to take this to court, except he won't, because then he would have to show evidence.
Barr will plead with the Supreme Court to simply install Trump as re-elected.
Mitch McConnell will try to stack the courts even more, maybe even trying to sneak a new Supreme Court Justice in. He will invent some rationale why that's totally fine.
Trump will whine and lament and threaten even more than he does now. He will cite Durham's report as proof that Biden-Ukraine-blablabla.
The Republicans, free from having to look sane now that the election is over, will gleefully join in on the attacks, promising neverending hearings into Biden's alleged crimes, promising to block each and everything Biden will do.
January 2021. The Republicans start writing articles of impeachment for Biden before Biden is even sworn in.
Trump just won't stop tweeting FAKE PRESIDENT.
The year 2021
While Biden governs, Trump jeers from the sidelines. Commenting and badmouthing every single thing Biden does.
The Republicans return to holding their ceremonial votes, except this time these votes aren't about repealing Obamacare but about Biden-fake-President-blablabla.
Trump gets a new meme rolling how Biden is the FAKE PRESIDENT. He keeps promising to eventually, "in two weeks", release his evidence of the massive voter-fraud. He never does.
Trump whines how his Presidency was the best ever and how the fake news media refuses to report that.
Trump alternates between golfing and holding campaign-style rallies, riling up his followers with tales of dark forces stealing the Presidency.
Trump will hint that he might run again in 2024, neither confirming nor denying it.
Someone will conveniently set up a "Trump 2024" fund and the MAGAts will happily donate their money to a Trump 2024 presidential campaign that will never happen.
As criminal investigations into Trump's tax-frauds and bank-frauds encircle him tighter and tighter, he will scream about being wrongfully prosecuted by the Deep State, the Fake News media and the Fake President.
Trump Jr. will do some coked-out-of-his-mind attacks against his father's enemies.
Eric will try to say something clever and will say something dumb instead.
Ivanka and Jared, now social outcasts in NY, will secretly cut their ties to Trump and will move to London.
Melania will never be seen in public again.
The year 2022
Trump, never a man of conviction, loses interest in this whole Presidency-thing.
He tries to capitalize on his Presidency by selling merchandise.
He occasionally gives interviews to Fox News, where he keeps whining about the Presidency being stolen from him.
He will claim that the voter-fraud has been proven, even though neither he nor anyone has ever presented any evidence. (His followers dutifully parrot that the voter-fraud has been proven.)
And of course he will continue hinting that he MIGHT run for President again 2024, even though he has no interest in doing so: He just wants the attention and the money that comes with this story.
We will hold on to the House, so there is no way republicans can impeach Biden.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Maybe... there will be a landslide victory in both the Senate and the WH that he cant claim shit. That would be better.
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)and the GOP will continue on like a lingering permeating gross fart.
dalton99a
(81,485 posts)Sedona
(3,769 posts)when he dies in jail!
yonder
(9,664 posts)His whole life has been spent doing what the rest of us would be in jail for. It's about time for justice.
pandr32
(11,581 posts)...to keep him out of prison.
yonder
(9,664 posts)However, if no jail time is in the cards and he is allowed to lead a similar lifestyle on the outside, may the Grim Reaper give him an early visit.
pandr32
(11,581 posts)They'll have to face the music if they stick around. They probably plan to stall things the way they always have though.
srose58089
(214 posts)Being sued for every penny he has grifted and then dying in prison penniless after years and years of narcistic meltdown. Question will he have secret service protection while in prison?
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)spawn will have to support themselves and abandon him because they have nothing to gain from his will. Theyll probably just cremate him or ask the state to bury him in a pine box
leftieNanner
(15,087 posts)That the Republican Senators who lose their seats will happily encourage the "voter fraud" stuff so that they can claim that they shouldn't have lost either.
"Melania will never be seen in public again" - except when she steps out of the courtroom after divorcing her "husband".
dalton99a
(81,485 posts)RKP5637
(67,108 posts)leftieNanner
(15,087 posts)Maybe she can borrow Jerry Falwell Jr.'s. He seems to be available.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)The "anonymous friend" will later turn out to be his buddy Vladimir Putin.
napi21
(45,806 posts)I'n saying late 2021 to give trial presentation time and a short time for a jury decision.
GeorgiaPeanut
(360 posts)targetpractice
(4,919 posts)... You forgot the part about turning OANN into TrumpTV... a platform to air all his grievances to his base, and take down Fox News.
Dagstead Bumwood
(3,626 posts)but he sure can hold a grudge.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Republicans will have ginned up enough faux outrage to reclaim a majority in the US House of Representatives as Democrats get complacent and stay home. And we go in this vicious cycle again.
Aristus
(66,333 posts)This was just after Biden became the de facto nominee, but before his election prospects really took off:
"Trump Resigns In Disgrace!"
"VP Pence Makes Faltering Attempt To Mount His Own Campaign."
"Feeble Pence Campaign Losing Ground To Inspired Biden Bid."
"Biden Wins! VP Pence Concedes And Congratulates President-Elect Biden."
"Weeping Trump Frog-Marched Out Of Trump Tower And In To Custody."
"Biden Begins His Transition."
"Senate Democratic Majority Sworn In."
"Inauguration Day: Joseph Biden Takes The Oath As President; Vows To Revive Faltering America."
"SDNY Indicts Donald Trump On 77 Criminal Counts; Racketeering And Sexual Assault Top The List."
"In A Marathon Workday In The Oval Office, President Biden Rescinds Every Trump Executive Order".
"Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Announces Her Retirement; An Adoring Nation Says 'Thank You'."
"Former POTUS Obama Believed To Be At The Top Of The Short List For SCOTUS."
"Trump Trial Begins. Months Of Testimony Expected."
"Pres. Biden Presents Dr. Anthony Fauci With Presidential Medal Of Freedom."
"Senate Budget Committee Announces Increase in Top Marginal Tax Rate. Senate Expected To Approve."
"House Introduces $1 Trillion-Dollar Infrastructure Initiative. 752 Small Contractors Nationwide Expected To Bid."
"Pres. Biden Finishes Productive Week By Disbanding U.S Space Force."
"Former President Barack Obama Confirmed By Senate For Associate Justice."
"Former FLOTUS Melania Trump Deported; Immigration Documents Determined To Be Falsified."
"Melania Trump Appears In Slovenian Court To File For Divorce From Former POTUS Trump."
"Donald J. Trump Jr. Mauled To Death In Trophy Hunt Gone Wrong."
HHS Dept And FDA Joint Announcement: Safe And Effective COVID-19 Vaccine Gets National Release."
"Trump Found Guilty on 74 Of 77 Counts. Remanded To Custody Until Sentencing."
"Chief Justice Roberts' Unexpected Retirement Announcement."
"Eric Trump Kidnapped! Released Unharmed. No One Wanted To Pay Ransom."
"Roberts Resigns, Joins Private Practice. Obama Considered for CJ. AG Kamala Harris Whispered For SCOTUS."
"Ivanka Trump Poses For Hustler; Promises Tell-All Book About Daddy."
"Trump Sentenced To Life In Prison. Sentence To Begin At Once."
"Franklin Graham Found In Motel With Dead Hooker AND Live Man."
"Obama Offered Chief Justice; Declines; Recommends AG Kamala Harris.
"Biden Inspects Ultra-Modern Fast Locomotive with AMTRAK Chief. Anticipates Nationwide Deployment Within Two Years."
"Donald J. Trump Found Alive In His Cell. The Nation Grieves."
"Senate Confirms Kamala Harris As First Female SCOTUS Chief Justice."
"FLOTUS Dr. Jill Biden Announces Nationwide Education Initiative."
"Citing Infrastructure Project As Example, Pres. Biden Announces Unemployment Fallen Below Pre-COVID Level."
"Trump Divorce Final; Former FLOTUS Resumes Maiden Name Knauss."
"Trump On Life Support At Leavenworth After Massive Multi-System Failure. Recovery Not Expected. Final Days Expected To Be Prolonged And Agonizing."
"Brownsville Latina Wins Special Election; Texas House Turns Blue."
KS Toronado
(17,230 posts)otherwise the repugs will attempt to block everything Joe & the House want to do.
jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)"Giuliani crawls into coffin for passage back to Transylvania"
KS Toronado
(17,230 posts)obamanut2012
(26,071 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)What would they do?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,686 posts)Trump loses the election, and for about a month tries to challenge it as you described. But when the Electoral College issues its vote in December, clinching his loss, he resigns and Pence takes over. Pence pardons him, of course, although the pardon won't cover state crimes, and the Manhattan D.A. is already breathing down Trump's neck. But Trump has plans to defeat all components of the Deep State: He forms what he characterizes as a government-in-exile based in Merde-a-Loco, and marshals an army of assorted MAGAts, Boogaloo Boys, white supremacist militia types, and others of their ilk. By this time he really believes he can take over the government, and is no longer relying on established processes and institutions like the court system to help him because he knows they won't. So he stirs up a short-lived but violent civil war, which eventually results in his arrest. By this time Pence is gone and so is Bill Barr, and Biden is president - so he is appropriately prosecuted for everything Pence couldn't pardon him for.
Far-fetched, probably, but these days nothing is beyond imagining.
KS Toronado
(17,230 posts)Doug.Goodall
(1,241 posts)2022: Trump is sentenced to Leavenworth.
2023 onward: Trump is serving as a convicted felon in Leavenworth.
moondust
(19,980 posts)I mean, who else would have access to this level of detailed planning?
Dan
(3,559 posts)Is no longer eligible to run for POTUS.
NY AG will then get him on Tax evasion or fraud - and maybe will find that the Trump empire is a criminal enterprise, thus costing him a fortune.
Putin will want his payments on his loans to Trump - and Trump wont have the money, plus Trump failure to break up NATO will cause Putin to call in his loans, his way.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,606 posts)Trump could be convicted of shooting someone on 5th ave, and still run for president, even from prison.
Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)pardons him of all federal crimes.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Trump is stuck; he cant unresign. Pence gets revenge for 4 years of being publicly humiliated and gets national and international praise. God smiles.
skydive forever
(444 posts)lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)Trump passes...'........ .
the torch to "my darling Ivanka"
Fiendish Thingy
(15,606 posts)Because Biden must appoint an Independent Prosecutor (after Congress renews the law). Trump should be indicted, if not in jail, by the end of 2021.
Trump wont be able to afford rallies unless he formally declares his candidacy for 2024. His SS protection will be minimal, so security will have to come out of his, or his campaigns pocket. I think the number of suckers willing to donate to him will drop dramatically.
He will need to hawk hemorrhoid donut cushions with the presidential seal to fund his legal defence fees.
safeinOhio
(32,675 posts)he is also a coward. Hell fold like a cheap card table.
DBoon
(22,366 posts)maybe a waste treatment plant or a post office
They bravely hold the property until they run out of essential provisions (Bud light and cheetos)
Efilroft Sul
(3,579 posts)obamanut2012
(26,071 posts)2naSalit
(86,597 posts)Kind of hard to tweet and hold rallies and pressers from a jail cell.
MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)I would almost say these last 4 years would have been worth it. Almost...
2naSalit
(86,597 posts)I can hardly wait until it's over. I seem to have a never ending tension headache now, the sooner this all ends, the better. I just hope there's a good outcome.
GopherGal
(2,008 posts)So he'd be free and he'd want to be holding rallies to
1) sell merch (to finance his defense attorneys??)
2) Feed his narcissism
Not necessarily in that order.
Post-Tulsa debacle, I'm less certain than 6 months ago how cooperative his slavering faithful would be in this enterprise.
Maybe his dynastic heirs (Junior or Princess) could declare candidacy and he could hold his rallies on (whichever of) their campaign's dime. I imagine it's at best marginally legal to be using campaign funds to defend all the legal suits they'll all be facing, but that's not the sort of thing that has stopped them before. (I guess I'm not Trumpishly creative enough to figure out how they'll manage to profit from it all...)
Would he still be a frequent unpaid contributor for Faux Snooze? Or I guess he'd change his allegiance to OAN and get signed on as a paid contributor (a la Palin...)
2naSalit
(86,597 posts)Since we won't be buying them for him, wonder who would foot those bills.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)2naSalit
(86,597 posts)He knows what's going on and can't do anything about it.
BigOleDummy
(2,270 posts)Drooling idiot he is already, mute and arthritic would be a bonus.
EarnestPutz
(2,120 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)to decide per state votes, since there are more fascist state reps than Dems it would probably go to tRump. that is the scenario I fear the most.
PatrickforO
(14,573 posts)cronies, including McConnell, are actually brought to justice.
These people are guilty of treason, for God's sake!
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Feb or March, Biden's new AG gets confirmed by the senate. The new AG appoints an independent prosecutor to pursue a criminal investigation into Trump's and his sycophants' crimes. We have the Nixon criminal investigation as precedent and model.
Trump will be very very busy trying to avoid and cover up obstruction of justice, tax fraud, mail fraud, bribery, insurance fraud, money laundering. More people will squeal and confess to crimes than occurred in the Nixon prosecutions.
OMGWTF
(3,955 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,793 posts)Jill Biden will not be able to plagiarize Melania.
JI7
(89,249 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)paleotn
(17,912 posts)Donnie and spawn plus several congressional Rethugs are dragged through the courts, convicted and sent to jail. No "for the good of the country" crap this time around. We let NOTHING slide. If he's got any sense at all, he'll skip the country to a place lacking an extradition treaty and tweet his insults from afar.
Gothmog
(145,195 posts)I believe that trump will pardon himself and his family and selected allies. If trump wants to be safe, trump will pardon Pence and then resign and have Pence pardon him (it is not clear that a self pardon is effective) These pardons are ineffective against state charges and it may turn out that Vance and James will offer trump a deal if he agrees to a peaceful transition of power where they agree no jail time for trump or his family. trump should be most worried about Vance and perhaps the District of Columbia DA.
I also see trump buying OAN and going into competition with Fox only to be crushed and undergo another bankruptcy
JHB
(37,160 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)At 5 pm Election Night, the Secret Service tells Trump, "Mr. President, we just got an alert from Apple that your phone is infected with a virus. We need to take it to the security office to have the virus removed."
At 9 pm, when Biden has amassed 350 electoral votes Trump demands his "fucking phone back, so I can call Sleepy Joe an illegal president and promise an investigation that will prove his fraud and get me my second term." Brad Parscale sits him down and tells him, "look, you fucking moron, it's time to shut the fuck up. There are both state-level and federal prosecutors just waiting for your ass the second you leave this building on January 20, and you tweeting bullshit will only make things worse for us." Trump fires Parscale on the spot.
At 10 pm, when the last state is in and Biden is sitting somewhere between 450 and 500 electoral votes, Ivanka picks up Trump's phone and sends a short, simple tweet: "Congratulations to President-Elect Biden on a hard-fought victory." The Secret Service then uses a sledgehammer to pulverize the phone into fine dust. Twitter then terminates his account.
Trump's supporters take to Instagram, Twitter and Facebook with one message: "He lost because he was a Democrat all the time. Fuck that asshole." Massive Trump merch burning parties are scheduled for the Saturday after the election.
White supremacist gangs like the Proud Boys and Boogaloo Boiz promise a civil war in support of Trump. This plan quickly dissipates, as do the Proud Boys and Boogaloo groups, when the president of the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club and the president of the Fraternal Order of Police go on the nightly news. The HAMC president announces that they are going to "track down pro-Trump gang members and fuck their shit up" and the FOP president announces "and we're gonna let them."
Acme Tattoo Supply announces that due to all the people having their Trump and white supremacist tattoos covered up, there is now a shortage of black tattoo ink. Owners of that art turn to Rust-Oleum as a temporary fix.
On Wednesday morning, the National Funeral Directors Association launches a massive ad campaign designed to persuade former Trump supporters not to burn their merch in open air. "Funeral parlors all across America have volunteered to destroy Trump-branded items in their crematories. It is far more ecologically sound, and you won't get a ticket for illegal burning." Long lines immediately form at funeral homes as people turn in that crap as soon as possible.
Trump then calls in Pence. "Now it's your turn, Iron Mike. I'm going to resign and you're going to pardon me." Pence looks at him with a weird expression on his face. "Are you out of your fucking mind, asshole?" Pence asks. "You made your fucking bed. You sleep in it. I fucking resign." Pence does so and catches a United flight from DC to Indianapolis. When last seen, he was boarding an airliner humming the tune to "United Breaks Guitars." Fortunately for him, he has no guitar for United to break.
Trump boards Air Force One the day after the election and flies to Mar-a-Lago, where he golfs twice a day and demands the Secret Service eat steak and lobster for breakfast, lunch and dinner because he needs to raise money fast and this always worked.
One week later, the Secret Service detail assigned to protect Trump from his former followers takes out a full-page ad in every paper Trump hates, which is every paper but the Epoch Times. It states that in colonial Massachusetts there was a law that said you could only feed lobsters to prisoners three times a week, and they would like that law to apply to the Trump Protective Detail. Most papers give the ad space to the Secret Service for free.
On the 19th of January, Donald and Ivanka Trump board DFT's private airliner to flee the country. They receive the same response from every nation in the world except one. "You can land to refuel, pump sewage and take on food, but no one can disembark. As soon as you've refueled, you must depart immediately." Not even Russia will let them in. The only country that will take him is Burkina Faso, a landlocked country located mostly in the Sahara Desert whose per capita GDP is $1900 per year. He is allowed in on the grounds that he lives as a Burkinese citizen does. He eventually settles on an uninhabited atoll in the Pacific whose only feature is an abandoned World War II landing strip, and spends the rest of his fortune having food brought to him by boat. President Biden refuses to bring him back to the mainland on grounds that "prison would be an improvement over how he's living now, and it's not costing us any tax dollars." He eventually goes wading in the ocean, steps on a stonefish and dies in the water from envenomation. Ivanka sends a tweet over her satellite phone, "please help! Stuck on island alone." The Navy names the atoll a target for the next aerial bombardment drills.
George Soros buys One America News Network for an undisclosed price which is rumored to be "$500 and two cartons of unfiltered Camels." He turns it into "One America Auction House," which is kinda like eBay except 10 percent of the purchase price goes to the government to help pay down the debt. It rapidly becomes very popular. He also buys Parler, which he converts into an online furniture dealer.
After four years, President Biden has locked up the rest of the Trump administration and not only detrumpified but dereaganized the country.