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qwlauren35

(6,147 posts)
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 05:35 PM Sep 2020

I am no longer worried.

about the violence we've seen this summer, becoming a problem if Biden wins. I believe that it is severely over-reported.

More than 95% of all protests are peaceful. And there have been TEN THOUSAND PROTESTS. 10,000. Think about it.

Only 10% were met with government intervention. Now 54% of the 10% turned violent, but that's back to 5%. 95% non-violent.

ONLY 50 incidents have had non-government intervention (random guys showing up with guns and trying to stop the protests) and 360 counter-protests and of them only 12% turned violent. 43 incidents out of 10,000 protests.


IT'S BEING OVER-REPORTED. 95% OF THE PROTESTS ARE NON-VIOLENT. Not by BLM, not by insurgents, not by cops, not by counter-protesters.

All those photos, all those videos, all those articles, all those opinions, all that scary shit. It's all hype.
- -America is not burning.
- -Black people are not looting in every city across America.
- -AND the militia and white supremacists are not everywhere, wreaking havoc.

Even if there were 500 militia groups in the US, they could not take down the country.


https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

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I am no longer worried. (Original Post) qwlauren35 Sep 2020 OP
Truth. BamaRefugee Sep 2020 #1
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤ Mme. Defarge Sep 2020 #3
On line 3 I think you meant 54, not 54% ... mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #2
No, it is 54%. qwlauren35 Sep 2020 #4
Then you probably should clarify ... mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #6
I'll fix it. qwlauren35 Sep 2020 #12
I drove by my local mall the other day, it was not looted and burning. Initech Sep 2020 #5
Then, it's up to you. jaxexpat Sep 2020 #11
Hope this is sarcasm... n/t Tommymac Sep 2020 #25
It is sarcasm. jaxexpat Sep 2020 #34
If It Bleeds, It Leads modrepub Sep 2020 #7
This. Kick. Squinch Sep 2020 #8
Impostors and false flag events are the only worry bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #9
So much sensationalist reporting The Genealogist Sep 2020 #10
The canyon below me is filled with smoke right now, making it difficult to breathe. Protestors?? No. niyad Sep 2020 #13
K&R n/t Kitchari Sep 2020 #14
The protesters aren't the ones I'm worried about jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #15
I'm worried about the 'Journalists' and media outlets who over report because ratings. Tommymac Sep 2020 #26
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #16
I live within earshot of the Portland Federal Courthouse Thunderbeast Sep 2020 #17
Great perspective on the situation Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2020 #18
There has been real long lasting damage to Chicago. But, it's from organized crime looting mucifer Sep 2020 #19
I worry that, if he loses, Trump will inspire protests from his devotees... thesquanderer Sep 2020 #20
You know I am beginning to feel that if Trump Wins StClone Sep 2020 #21
If Trump steals it, there would be a lot of angry people, that's for sure. subterranean Sep 2020 #28
I agree. StClone Sep 2020 #29
This story may be an inspiration or strike fear StClone Sep 2020 #38
+1000 mnmoderatedem Sep 2020 #35
im not worried about the peacful protesters , its the home grown kooks that i am worried AllaN01Bear Sep 2020 #22
I'm not worried about the protests, but BainsBane Sep 2020 #23
"Even if there were 500 militia groups in the US, they could not take down the country." yuiyoshida Sep 2020 #24
Lenin did it. Mussolini did it. Hitler did it. Mao did it. Trump could do it. Tommymac Sep 2020 #27
Trump and his Cult will leave StClone Sep 2020 #30
Debbie Downer here EndlessWire Sep 2020 #31
trump can't refuse to leave. It'll be fine. crickets Sep 2020 #32
Thank you for the reality check and the data, lauren. nt crickets Sep 2020 #33
So true. The press likes drama. People love to exaggerate treestar Sep 2020 #36
Well... EndlessWire Sep 2020 #37

qwlauren35

(6,147 posts)
4. No, it is 54%.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 05:49 PM
Sep 2020

When police get involved, 54% of the time, it turns violent. BUT they are not getting involved that much. One in 10. So out of 10,000 protest, maybe 540 had violent police intervention.

As of 2018, there are 19,495 incorporated cities, towns and villages in the United States.

So, ~19,000 cities/towns in America have not seen violence.

The country is not burning, the suburbs are not under attack. I'm not saying that it's not happening. And I'm not saying that WHERE it happens, it is not devastating for those who are affected.

But the entire country is not going to hell.



 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. Then you probably should clarify ...
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 05:52 PM
Sep 2020

"Only 10% were met with government intervention and (of those) only 54% turned violent"

And personally, 54% is not really a number I'd use 'only' in conjunction with. That's quite a lot really.

modrepub

(3,493 posts)
7. If It Bleeds, It Leads
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 05:53 PM
Sep 2020

Fear sells papers/gets eyeballs on websites. It's the one drawback about the "free press", with everything going on, it's (sex) and violence that attracts attention and sells.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
10. So much sensationalist reporting
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 06:07 PM
Sep 2020

Sensationalism gets eyes, which attract ad buying. That's it in a nutshell.

niyad

(113,250 posts)
13. The canyon below me is filled with smoke right now, making it difficult to breathe. Protestors?? No.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 06:31 PM
Sep 2020

Another fire near Grand Junction, apparently.

So here it is, a holiday weekend. Lots of tourons. But, no looting, no burning. Just a bunch of idiots burning their lungs going up a mountainside. Without masks.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
26. I'm worried about the 'Journalists' and media outlets who over report because ratings.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 08:17 PM
Sep 2020

In a modern media world a few loudmouths can be easily magnified and manipulated to represent a 'silent majority'.

This is what Putin does best.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
17. I live within earshot of the Portland Federal Courthouse
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 07:01 PM
Sep 2020

For several weeks we heard flashbangs, helicopters, and police on loudspeakers. Not so much anymore.

The number of vandals and rioters is very small. The city is covid-normal. Many are disappointed that the vandals and the cops kept the discord going. Constant national media coverage and a Republican Party that has made overblown fear the centerpiece of their election campaign makes constructive reform and retreat from the brink less possible.

Portland will be OK. I hope that the new City Council will make meaningful reforms to policing and social policy. An underlying housing crisis and under-performing schools are major issues that this city must address.

mucifer

(23,525 posts)
19. There has been real long lasting damage to Chicago. But, it's from organized crime looting
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 07:20 PM
Sep 2020

not real protests. Still people are very angry about what's happening here.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
20. I worry that, if he loses, Trump will inspire protests from his devotees...
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 07:22 PM
Sep 2020

...and THOSE are the armed kooks I worry about.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
21. You know I am beginning to feel that if Trump Wins
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 07:33 PM
Sep 2020

We will have to destroy him and America to save it. I believe the reaction to a Trump election Fraud and theft will be the great upheaval and equal to the Civil War.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
28. If Trump steals it, there would be a lot of angry people, that's for sure.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 08:37 PM
Sep 2020

Let's hope it doesn't come to that. We need to win by an overwhelming margin.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
29. I agree.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 09:41 PM
Sep 2020

Think of the absolute loss we have endured over the past Trump years in treasure, lives, and world admiration. One demented damaged Conman, yet he has the where-with-all to form a cult of dependency on his reality show persona. It shall be over, but not soon enough to begin repair, repent and reconciliation.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
38. This story may be an inspiration or strike fear
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 11:13 PM
Sep 2020

Last week, a coalition of leading progressive groups gathered on Zoom to begin organizing for what they envision as the post-Election Day political apocalypse scenario.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-left-secretly-preps-for-violence-after-election-day

Hey subterranean if want to this may be a good article to open a new discussion.

mnmoderatedem

(3,724 posts)
35. +1000
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 05:37 AM
Sep 2020

he's going to play the "election was rigged because of mail in voting" and his trained seals with their AR-15s are going to take matters into their own hands dammit.

A very real possibility.

BainsBane

(53,029 posts)
23. I'm not worried about the protests, but
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 07:35 PM
Sep 2020

I am worried about how Trump is using them. I do fear possible electoral consequences.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
24. "Even if there were 500 militia groups in the US, they could not take down the country."
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 07:48 PM
Sep 2020

"Hey.... Hold my beer for a moment, okay???"

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
27. Lenin did it. Mussolini did it. Hitler did it. Mao did it. Trump could do it.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 08:21 PM
Sep 2020

It is totally in the realm of possibility for a few thousand well organized, well equipped, and well led...

...oh wait. Duh.

It's Trump.

Nevermind.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
30. Trump and his Cult will leave
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 09:44 PM
Sep 2020

A shit stain on U.S. history. I wonder, if now, the T-Wrecks Cult could read about their own follies as written in future prose.

EndlessWire

(6,509 posts)
31. Debbie Downer here
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 10:00 PM
Sep 2020

It isn't what is happening before the election, it's what will happen if Trump refuses to leave after losing.

Funny, but I trust BLM to do the right thing in the most expeditious way. There is no need to riot if the dialogue continues with Biden, and something positive in terms of civil rights and attitudes is seen and manifested in regards to law enforcement.

There is much to be fixed. Let's let Kamala and Joe (heh heh heh) get a handle on it. We are lucky that the military came out and warned Trump that they would not help him take over the country. But, our rule of law, the rigid way in which we operate, has so far allowed the Orange Monster the ability to do this to us. So, we still have to be cautious.

People of any color just want to be economically secure, with the ability to advance during their lives, and have their families safe and healthy. That's what everyone wants. We can improve on that from what we had, and we can put it back together from what Trump tore up.

But, Trump is a very real threat to our country. We can't ease up.

crickets

(25,960 posts)
32. trump can't refuse to leave. It'll be fine.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 12:34 AM
Sep 2020
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/trump-election-refusal-leave.html

So it’s the morning of Jan. 20, 2021. Trump doesn’t meet President-elect Joe Biden and his wife in the White House driveway, nor does he attend the inauguration on Capitol Hill. Instead, he proclaims, as he has many times by this point, that the election was a fraud (he has set the stage for this with his false claims about mail-in ballots), and at noon, instead of acceding to the transfer of power, Trump proclaims that the swearing in was FAKE NEWS and that he remains the president.

Here is what would happen next.


treestar

(82,383 posts)
36. So true. The press likes drama. People love to exaggerate
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 05:54 AM
Sep 2020

so they can be part of a drama. Moderation and perspective go out the window.

EndlessWire

(6,509 posts)
37. Well...
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 03:03 PM
Sep 2020

It couldn't happen here, right? The good ole US of A couldn't possibly have a Civil War 2.0.

So, if you see something going on, just keep watching, and it couldn't possibly be whatever it looks like, because, US of A...

How he would get there, I don't know, but other people smarter than I am also caution against letting our guards down. Just be careful out there.

No need to shiver in your safe room. Not saying that. But when you believe that something can't happen just because it never happened before, that's where you can go wrong.

Trump is not really a "law and order" kind of guy. He is damaged psychologically, and my guess is if killing 50,000 of us at once would help him retain his dictatorship, he wouldn't think twice about it.

He envisions a dynasty type of ruling family. If he leaves in January, there will truly be something to celebrate. Leave your Christmas lights up, or whatever kind of decor you have. It'll be worth it.

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