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Cattledog

(6,663 posts)
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 08:23 PM Sep 2020

Mother of autistic boy shot by police speaks out: 'Why didn't you just tackle him?'

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SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (KUTV) – A 13-year-old autistic boy is still recovering in the hospital after getting shot several times by police on Friday night in Glendale.

Linden Cameron had injuries to his shoulder, both ankles, intestines, and bladder, according to his mother, Golda Barton


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Mother of autistic boy shot by police speaks out: 'Why didn't you just tackle him?' (Original Post) Cattledog Sep 2020 OP
Jesus!! We need huge policing reforms. Huge!!! GreenPartyVoter Sep 2020 #1
Wtaf????? SheltieLover Sep 2020 #2
All of them should be fired. Blue_true Sep 2020 #3
And prosecuted to the fullest extent! SheltieLover Sep 2020 #12
That's what I wondered when I saw the Jacob Blake video. What ever happened to... LAS14 Sep 2020 #4
What meat-headed cops,.. shoot a 13 year old boy multiple times. magicarpet Sep 2020 #5
Exactly!!! SheltieLover Sep 2020 #7
These fking police are completely out of control SheltieLover Sep 2020 #6
"I said he's unarmed, he doesn't have anything, he just gets mad and he starts yelling and screaming dalton99a Sep 2020 #8
It wasn't the police's fault. The boy hurt them. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #20
Jesus... ck4829 Sep 2020 #9
The police use deadly force Matthew28 Sep 2020 #10
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Sep 2020 #11
Shooting 13 year old white kids in the back now Calculating Sep 2020 #14
Points up that people of color are not alone in police brutality!!! SheltieLover Sep 2020 #13
Just wtf?!?? Keystone cops uponit7771 Sep 2020 #15
Kid was prob having vestibular issues from electrical coil whine SheltieLover Sep 2020 #18
#DEFUNDTHEPOLICE qwlauren35 Sep 2020 #16
Precisely! SheltieLover Sep 2020 #19
My son Tom is autistic MizLibby Sep 2020 #17
The institution is unreformable. ACAB, FTP, abolition now. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #21
Alot of them are out of shape cowards w/personality issues, radius777 Sep 2020 #22
Very true! SheltieLover Sep 2020 #23
Autism and mental health care VPHawk Sep 2020 #24
Good points, VPHawk. brer cat Sep 2020 #25
People with mental illness I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2020 #26

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
3. All of them should be fired.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 08:27 PM
Sep 2020

To often, police officers don’t think before using their guns. Simple observation then response is foreign to some of them.

LAS14

(15,525 posts)
4. That's what I wondered when I saw the Jacob Blake video. What ever happened to...
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 08:27 PM
Sep 2020

... just grabbing someone you're worried about?

magicarpet

(19,062 posts)
5. What meat-headed cops,.. shoot a 13 year old boy multiple times.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 08:31 PM
Sep 2020

The kid likely weight less than 1/2 as much as the cops yet the only way to control him was to shoot him ?

,These cops never heard of deescalation ?

SheltieLover

(81,393 posts)
6. These fking police are completely out of control
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 08:34 PM
Sep 2020

This is FAR from an isolated incident with autistic kids & teens!

Yet, somehow, school staff are trained to descalate!

The kid was probably having vestibular issues. Being driven crazy by coil whine.

And, as per usual, the mother, as primary care giver, had ZERO support.

dalton99a

(94,868 posts)
8. "I said he's unarmed, he doesn't have anything, he just gets mad and he starts yelling and screaming
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 08:38 PM
Sep 2020
Barton said she was the one who called the police and asked for a crisis intervention team (CIT). She said her son, who was Asperger's, was having a mental breakdown. She spoke briefly about how she was told how the CIT would respond:

This is how to deal with people with mental health issues. So, you call them, and they're supposed to come out and be able to deescalate a situation using the most minimal force possible.


She explained to the CIT that her son was having a mental breakdown and needed to be transported to the hospital for treatment. It was the first day Barton had returned to work in almost a year because she can't be away from her son: "he has bad separation anxiety," she explained. On the phone with officers, Barton told officers the best way to approach her son:

I said, he's unarmed, he doesn't have anything, he just gets mad and he starts yelling and screaming. He's a kid he's trying to get attention, he doesn't know how to regulate.


She said she was to stay while the two officers went through the front door of the home in the area of 500 S. Navajo Street in the Glendale neighborhood. She said in less than five minutes, she heard "get down on the ground" and several gunshots were heard.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
20. It wasn't the police's fault. The boy hurt them.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 09:26 PM
Sep 2020

.

He said something bad about them and hurt their feelings. 🙁

.

SheltieLover

(81,393 posts)
13. Points up that people of color are not alone in police brutality!!!
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 08:51 PM
Sep 2020

This is SO wrong on so many levels!

Qualified immunity has got to go!.

Let police buy their own professional liability insurance policies, like all other professions! Insurance companies would never insure such unstable people! Especially those with a history of such behavior!

No insurance, no job.

This must stop!

qwlauren35

(6,309 posts)
16. #DEFUNDTHEPOLICE
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 09:05 PM
Sep 2020

This is an example of how, if the city invested in specialized groups who were trained to deal with the mentally ill, instead of sending police, this would not have happened.

SheltieLover

(81,393 posts)
19. Precisely!
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 09:23 PM
Sep 2020

Kid likely was upset due to vestibular issues from.electrical coil whine.

Answer: shoot him. Wtaf?

A ride in a car or some time on a swing or trampoline likely would have calmed him.

MizLibby

(398 posts)
17. My son Tom is autistic
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 09:12 PM
Sep 2020

He's had meltdowns in his time on earth but I never needed to call the police, thank God. He's screamed, hit his own skull with his fists, but never ever hurt anyone. Thankfully with age he has "improved" but to this day I will not allow him to get a drivers license. He needs one to get to and from his job, he can understand the laws of the road, BUT, if he was in an accident, or involved in some incident he hadn't programmed his autistic mind for, who knows what the police would do to him. A 45 year old 6'3" man starts screaming and spanking himself?? The police would find him a prime target I'm afraid. We need to take part of our police funding and fund those with mental health training to assist the police with dealing with people like my Tom, not just shoot them.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
22. Alot of them are out of shape cowards w/personality issues,
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 09:41 PM
Sep 2020

who really should not be doing that job, but the unions protect them.

The reality is that cops also abuse alot of whites, yet many whites view the police as defenders of white America, so don't join in BLM and others who critique the police.

SheltieLover

(81,393 posts)
23. Very true!
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 11:01 PM
Sep 2020

This kid was probably having vestibular issues from electronic coil whine.

A ride in a car, time on a swing or trampoline likely would have calmed him.

These sociopathic cops should not have qualified immunity! If they had to purchase their own professional liability insurance like other professionals, as a condition of employment, that would go a long way to get them.out. no insurance company would insure someone with such behavior!

VPHawk

(1 post)
24. Autism and mental health care
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 11:20 PM
Sep 2020

This is horrifying, especially to those of us with family and friends on the Autism spectrum. I can't even imagine how the parents must feel? I hope Linden heals quickly from the injuries caused by Law Enforcement. Another, of many, many examples, of law enforcement brutality and not being properly trained and/or not following the steps to descalate the situation. Law Enforcement needs mental health professionals on board. With the rapidly increasing Autism numbers and more people needing access to mental health care, appropriate training and staff is needed immediately. Unfortunately, pediatric and adult inpatient mental health facilities, in our experience, have been extremely lacking in their knowledge of how to talk to or help people on the Spectrum. I hope the ACLU and/or Disability Rights Commission will become involved so people won't be afraid to call for help and so that no other families will have this happen. Our hearts go out to Linden and his family. I hope the officers who did this will be fired and receive no financial or other benefits from their positions.

There was a young man in our neighborhood who was on the Spectrum. He was shot and killed a half block from our home. My son, who is on the Spectrum, saw all the police and the body covered with a blanket when we were leaving for school. It's not something that either of us will ever forget and it made the world more frightening. People who have disabilities don't seem to carry much value in our society. When you see statements, regarding Covid, like 'My kid is more important than your Grandma' or 'the people dying from covid-19 already have one foot in the grave,' it doesn't make anyone feel good that others think they are expendable.

brer cat

(27,639 posts)
25. Good points, VPHawk.
Mon Sep 7, 2020, 11:25 PM
Sep 2020

I'm sorry that you and your son witnessed the aftermath of a shooting. It must have been disturbing to your son.

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