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still_one

(92,061 posts)
3. I am just reporting what CNN reported about 15 minutes ago. They had the CEO on. This is
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:11 AM
Sep 2020

what is going on in Germany in conjunction with Pfizer


SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
6. I know.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:23 AM
Sep 2020

Just wanted to get a link to vax gone bad info. (I'm not anti-vax, but people need to know about what the risks are, esp with a rushed vaccine.)

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
9. That & safety concerns!
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:58 AM
Sep 2020

Huge factor!

Read about Gulf War vets! Exact symptoms as lyme disease! Could have been any spirochete...

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
15. One "positive" is that there was a relative surge in cases
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:42 AM
Sep 2020

The more cases there are, the less time it takes to show effectiveness.

It's one thing to show lab results and then to demonstrate an immune response... but the real proof comes when there's enough of a difference in the rate of people getting sick in the control group vs. those who are immunized in the trial. Therefore, a surge in cases in the areas where studies are occurring can accelerate the effectiveness measures.

At one point, some of the vaccine companies were worried that the virus was dying out too quickly and they wouldn't be able to get good results.

Thekaspervote

(32,709 posts)
2. key "ready for approval." That alone can take months if done correctly, not rushed
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:07 AM
Sep 2020

As far as being ready to give the vaccine in October, it should have been in the manufacturing stage for months already

Add to that the idiot king decimated the federal government agencies that would be responsible for overseeing the distribution and giving of the vaccine.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
4. Yes, and the other key which wasn't referred to by the CEO is does that include how effective it
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:15 AM
Sep 2020

is? Unless they have an adequate number of people in areas that have the virus, it will take time to determine how effective it is


still_one

(92,061 posts)
8. The CEO is flirting with trouble by going on CNN implying certain things. I am talking about SEC
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:44 AM
Sep 2020

issues, without any disclaimer, which he did not make in that interview


Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
10. It is very early
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:18 AM
Sep 2020

Their fast track in the media is designed to raise investment in their stock.

100 million doses by the end of the year when at least two doses are probably required is 50 million of the 7.5 billion or so on the planet. They project to hit 1.3 billion doses by the end of 2021 (650 million people ... while the rest of the nearly 7 billion in the world look on).

That is all based on medical theory - they haven't proven much yet.
Nor is there any discussion of the side effects of this vaccine which can't possibly be known properly by the end of October.

This is a stunt to raise money and help fool folks into supporting Trump.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
14. A lot of them that did such a thing are gone in North America
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:34 AM
Sep 2020

India is prepping a bunch on spec

I guess it all depends on the $ - whether the world will be held for ransom or not.

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