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CousinIT

(9,234 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 05:38 PM Sep 2020

With Trump, Social Security could come to a screeching halt

Last edited Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:10 AM - Edit history (1)

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/opinions/social-security-payroll-trump-altman/index.html

Nancy Altman, a lawyer, is president of Social Security Works and chair of the Strengthen Social Security coalition. Her latest book is "The Truth about Social Security." The opinions expressed here are her own. View more opinion articles on CNN.

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Once re-elected, if he keeps deferring those taxes, all benefits will come to a screeching halt, with no Congressional involvement whatsoever.

According to estimates from the independent chief actuary of the Social Security Administration, if all Social Security contributions from payroll tax stopped on Jan. 1, 2021.... Social Security would be without money to pay benefits by 2023 (Congress could only stop Trump by enacting veto-proof legislation, a highly unlikely proposition).

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With a presidential threat to have zero benefits paid whatsoever, congressional supporters of Social Security would effectively be held hostage, with little they could do but give into the demands of a lame duck president. It is not hard to imagine, at that point, a backroom deal that fulfilled the longstanding right-wing goal of eliminating the features of Social Security that have made it so successful and so popular.

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Some pundits are giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, arguing that Congress would simply make up for the missing payroll contributions with general revenue. That, though, is highly unlikely. We are talking about general revenue of over $1 trillion a year. Since no one is suggesting raising taxes to make up the lost revenue from Social Security, that additional $1 trillion would have more than doubled the fiscal year 2019 deficit.

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Importantly, even just substituting general revenue would fundamentally alter Social Security. Its dedicated revenue and inability to deficit-spend means that Social Security does not add a penny to the nation's federal debt. Social Security's creator, President Franklin D. Roosevelt clearly understood the importance of those Social Security contributions, which, in his words, "give the contributors a legal, moral, and political right to collect their [Social Security] pensions."

Trump has shown himself willing to attack numerous fundamental institutions. He has attacked the US Postal Service, which the Constitution explicitly lists as an enumerated power of Congress. He has attacked the free press and our elections. Does anyone believe he wouldn't take our Social Security system hostage to attain a radical reform?
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Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
3. Gee...
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 05:45 PM
Sep 2020

It sounds to me like he is out to destroy America rather than just rule it.

Attacking basic and fundamental institutions of our society?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. So far, trump has only deferred SS taxes for Sept thru Dec. As it stands now,
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 06:21 PM
Sep 2020

it’s supposed to be paid after Dec. I doubt seriously he’d get away with deferring it further if re-elected. If not repaid, the deferral will move up the automatic cut in SS that is going to occur in early 2030s.

CousinIT

(9,234 posts)
8. I don't doubt anything with Trump. It appears he has the unilateral power to defund it.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 06:58 PM
Sep 2020

Using 'emergency' powers. And he will.

We need some new laws preventing ANY president from doing that under ANY circumstance.

mitch96

(13,883 posts)
9. I think that would piss off his base at the Villages in Central Florida.. Hell anyplace older folks
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:30 PM
Sep 2020

live. And what about those nursing homes that say they will take care of you just sign over your SS for life. They would go belly up!
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CousinIT

(9,234 posts)
10. They'll be oblivious until after it happens. He's marketing it as a 'tax cut'
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 08:07 PM
Sep 2020

And Trumpers love that. It's a specifically targeted "tax cut" meant to defund/terminate their social security. THAT is the part they'll miss.

Some are single issue voters too: they hate 'the gays', 'the blacks', or abortion or so-called 'socialism'.

There are a LOT of dumb people in this country. NEVER underestimate them or the ability of Trump to sell them deadly hogwash.

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