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liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 11:13 PM Sep 2020

Trump gains rattle Miami Dems: The president is running ahead of his 2016 pace...

... in Florida’s most populous county.

MIAMI — The basic electoral math in Florida looks something like this: Democrats roll up their votes in South Florida and Miami-Dade County, Republicans pad their numbers in the north and statewide races are decided in the Interstate 4 Corridor in between.

This year, however, the I-4 Corridor is taking a back seat in some of those calculations. President Donald Trump’s campaign and Republicans are making inroads in Miami-Dade County, the state’s most populous, forcing the Biden campaign to scramble in response to the threat to the wellspring of Democratic votes.

In a county where more than half of the residents are born outside the mainland U.S. — mostly in Latin America — Trump has outspent Joe Biden’s campaign by about $4 million on TV in the Miami-Fort Lauderdale media market, much of it on Spanish-language ads. The president’s conservative allies have dominated Spanish-language social media and WhatsApp messaging to Spanish-speakers. And the Miami-Dade County GOP has fielded candidates in five key local races, all of whom are Cuban-American, which could help turn out the pro-Trump Republican vote.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/08/trump-miami-florida-support-410362

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Trump gains rattle Miami Dems: The president is running ahead of his 2016 pace... (Original Post) liskddksil Sep 2020 OP
It would be nice if we won FL, but we don't need it to win!! Far from it Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #1
If we don't want "election-month" and a legal nightmare liskddksil Sep 2020 #2
Agree, just trying to be realistic yet optimistic as we can win without FL Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #4
Texas is now out of the question Polybius Sep 2020 #8
No evidence of that. Polls in Texas are as close as Florida liskddksil Sep 2020 #12
We need FL or PA IMO PaDemocrat Sep 2020 #5
Scranton Joe's been ahead in Pennsylvania Sugarcoated Sep 2020 #7
Yes, If Rumps carries FL AND PA, plus ME-2 and NE-2, he probably wins unless we flip NC. Celerity Sep 2020 #10
The last has been my expected map kurtcagle Sep 2020 #11
AZ is looking better than most of the other swing states Celerity Sep 2020 #13
So what are they going to do about it? Rice4VP Sep 2020 #3
2nd largest group in the usa is not feeling the love eh? nt msongs Sep 2020 #6
I am not going to let these media outlets, do everything they can Bev54 Sep 2020 #9
I Would Blitz The State With Ads As To How Trump Will End Social Security & Medicare..... global1 Sep 2020 #14
I'm wondering what they are waiting for. Nobody is talking about ooky Sep 2020 #15
I know LeftInTX Sep 2020 #19
Biden does better with White People than Hillary JI7 Sep 2020 #16
I've warned about this for years Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #17
That entire Politico article is very good Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #18
 

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
2. If we don't want "election-month" and a legal nightmare
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 11:19 PM
Sep 2020

Florida and Texas are critical as they both will count all votes that night.

 

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
12. No evidence of that. Polls in Texas are as close as Florida
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:46 AM
Sep 2020

and its demographics are moving much more favorably than Florida. Obviously we need both, but Texas is absolutely worth the investment with a Senate race, several competitive house races and control of the State house within reach.

Celerity

(43,131 posts)
10. Yes, If Rumps carries FL AND PA, plus ME-2 and NE-2, he probably wins unless we flip NC.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:09 AM
Sep 2020

Even flipping AZ only gets it to a 269-269 tie (and thus a likely win in the House as the Rethugs will probably control at least 26 state delegations, barring some upsets in key states.

IF he wins PA, odds are very high he takes OH and IA. I then give us every other realistic swing state except for NC (and obviously the the 2 states and 2 districts in the title). (no, GA and TX are not realistic this election if the maps breaks like this, the odds are so low we take them whilst losing FL and PA)



He also wins if we take PA but he takes AZ, NC, and WI, and ONE of ME-2 or NE-2 (269-269 again, but a straight win if he takes both, ME-2 he leads in, NE-2 he is behind)




Those 2 maps are the most likely of all the 269-269 tie scenarios I can spin up. A true nightmare, especially if one or more state delegations in the House (ones that would take the Rethugs below 26) are also tied up by crazy close disputed elections at district level. The country will tear itself apart. for awhile I fear.

ALL that said

I think this is the map (atm) that will actually happen





kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
11. The last has been my expected map
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:23 AM
Sep 2020

I think we'll take NC and PA, and may take FL and/or AZ. GA is too heavily controlled by the GOP - I expect we'll suddenly discover much of south Atlanta's votes just evaporate in thin air. SC might surprise, and I'd still not completely rule out IA, but, this one seems the most likely.

Celerity

(43,131 posts)
13. AZ is looking better than most of the other swing states
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:50 AM
Sep 2020


CO and VA are Blue locks

the other swing states we are up in similar fashion to AZ (the rest are closer atm)













Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
3. So what are they going to do about it?
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 11:27 PM
Sep 2020

I’ve been hearing for a month that Dems aren’t doing well with Hispanics in Florida. Haven’t they gotten the message? WTH

Hopefully Kamala’s trip to Miami isn’t some lame sit down with 5 people. Do a drive in rally and have people come in their trucks and cars

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
9. I am not going to let these media outlets, do everything they can
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 11:59 PM
Sep 2020

to convince us Trump is going to win. Politico has some right wing writers. I will go with the experts assessment, who do not have skin in the game to make us want to continue to read or watch them because they are trying to scare the hell out of us. I am not putting my head in the sand, just choosing not to let them cause anymore stress.

global1

(25,225 posts)
14. I Would Blitz The State With Ads As To How Trump Will End Social Security & Medicare.....
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 01:14 AM
Sep 2020

The Dems need to get the Senior citizens in Florida really riled up.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
16. Biden does better with White People than Hillary
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 02:01 AM
Sep 2020

Florida might be a place where they focus more on getting white voters to make up for any loss in hispanic voters.

Try to increase turnout of black and Jewish people as much as possible also .

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
17. I've warned about this for years
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 02:01 AM
Sep 2020

I read several articles years ago that indicated the GOP understood that cutting losses in Miami-Dade was their key to winning Florida. Consequently they are relentless all year long. Door to door in my suburban neighborhood. Plastering Spanish media with ads. Democratic operatives should have recognized this at the same time I did but instead it's the typical last minute sense and scramble.

There is nothing wrong with Florida except we get outworked and out strategized every cycle.

Oh, and the Andrew Gillum fiasco. None of the GOP fear tactics in South Florida would be nearly as effective or advanced if we hadn't nominated someone who was so easily tagged a corrupt socialist.

There are not as many Trump signs as I expected but the article is correct to point out those Cuban-American nominees in local races. I see those yards signs everywhere. Currently the most prominent sign is BOVO. Everywhere I go I see BOVO. He is running against a liberal Democrat for Miami mayor in Daniella Levine Cava. I voted for Cava in the primary over the more moderate Alex Penelas. I don't think the nominee in that race will do anything to the presidential race. But the totality is properly spotlighted by the Politico article.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
18. That entire Politico article is very good
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 02:23 AM
Sep 2020

Everyone should read the entirety, and not merely the paragraphs from the OP.

This section was particularly familiar:

"Miami state Sen. Annette Taddeo, a Democrat, said the raft of polling and the late-breaking response to Trump’s threat in Florida has the party taking the matter seriously after months of discarding warnings.

“Some of us have been warning about this, but it was kill the messenger: ‘You just bitch about everything.’ And now they're like ‘Ahhhhh! What do we do?’” she said.

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