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Over the past several days I have seen quite a few national and state polls very favorable to Biden....but it seems like everywhere I look (cable and web), its all about the tightening polls or Bidens lack of support among key demographics or Trump performing well among key demographics....what gives
JI7
(89,239 posts)ihas2stinkyfeet
(1,400 posts)and some of them seeding the ground for a theft. like they did w bushie.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)TVstations won't get viewers if the outcome is already known or suspected
TDale313
(7,820 posts)I believe Bidens in a really good position, but Dems should go into November feeling like they need to fight like hell to pull this off. Ill be taking that stance.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)come out and show there never was much of a change and we start it all over again the next month. I read three articles in the last week, another one today saying Biden pretty much has it.
NO... That is not saying we all sit down, shut up and do nothing. Cause I know I am gonna hear, dont take eye off prize, focus, yada yada.
agingdem
(7,805 posts)Disregard the polls...minds are made up...we're on to trump...we know about Russia, we know the lies, the gaslighting, the bully taunts, the depravity, the racist/ethnic hate...we know and we are not amused...we're offended, embarrassed...the networks want a horse race, reporters want notoriety..good for them...we've stopped listening and we've stopped playing nice...we've got to respect Biden/Harris...this isn't their first rodeo and this isn't 2016...we get out the vote..we win...fact
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Even some of the media are doing their best to act like this is a normal Presidential race. This morning I turned the tv on before I usually do and there they were. Pundits talking like Zbiden had to work hard to get the womens vote, or the Black vote.
As Biden would say, Malarkey!
First of all it was women who came out in the Midterms that created the blue wave that also swept a record number of women into office. Women are, if anything, even more pissed off now. As for Blacks, well anyone who doubts who theyll vote for is named Trump.
Even his base is thinning out. This is NOT a race like we dont know who will get the overwhelming votes.
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DesertRat
(27,995 posts)But hers were concentrated in fewer states, which makes all the difference in our political system. Welcome to DU, liberalnotlibertine2.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)It isn't even remotely close but they'll do anything to keep everyone hopped up.
That said, due to the expected shenanigans, massive voter turnout for Biden that leaves no doubt is what is needed.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)...it's the first time this year, really, that Trump has momentum there. If Biden loses Florida, as the betting markets are predicting now, he sits at 290 EV, which is enough to win, however, take away Arizona, a reliably red state, and that win is now far closer. Take away PA, which Trump won four years ago, and Biden loses unless he can flip Nort Carolina.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I don't understand why that has not been understood throughout. Biden didn't seem to get it in that New York Times piece regarding the vice presidential discussion, in which he seemed to de emphasize Florida, saying he planned to win in the midwest.
Wonderful strategy...one swing instead of two
Beyond Arizona and the three betrayal states from 2016, none of the others are logically viable if Florida remains with Trump.
We seemingly took certain Florida demographics for granted this time the same way we took midwestern states for granted in 2016. Biden may win Florida but it should have been obvious for years that the GOP planned to attack Miami-Dade to cut losses there. Heck, I mentioned that here many times, that I read articles along those lines and could see it unfolding exactly that way in my Miami suburban neighborhood.
The problem, as always, is fixation on specifics and not generalities. If the Democratic leaders had simply understood for years that Hispanics are unusually loyal to a presidential incumbent, this Miami-Dade shift could have been anticipated and countered every step of the way. Instead they made the colossal error of looking at one specific issue after another and assuming there was no chance that Hispanics could react favorably toward a president who was saying those things and doing those things.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Maybe Biden looked at those results and decided it was too risky to put a good amount of eggs in that basket. To be fair to his campaign, they're reacting to Clinton's loss in 2016 where she spent an incredible amount of time in Florida and still ended up losing the state.
I get it. Biden keeps those rust belt states and he's president. I understand the strategy solely on the fact that Floridais and always has been a wild card and the last thing the campaign wants to do is, especially, what Clinton did in 2016 and look to flip that state without firmly shoring up the rust belt state and then you end up losing Florida + Pennsylvania.
Frankly, PA is much more important to Biden than Florida. That should be his focus. But it also means, as you said, a comfortable win goes out the window if he loses Florida.