FLORIDA HISPANIC VOTERS

[Light63]

Trump leads by 5 points!

If Biden makes the same mistake like Hilary did in 2016 in Wisconsin, we’ll lose the winnable Florida. Not sure if we have enough time, but Biden/Harris needs to go down to Florida and pile on advertisements more in the Hispanic areas. Please don’t neglect the winnable Florida!

[OrlandoDem2]

1. Trump was the caudillo they fled from. Retweet this over and over in FL!

Florida’s Latino voters will play an extraordinary role in the 2020 presidential election.

No president since 1924 has clinched an election without carrying Florida — and Latinos are one of the most powerful voting blocs in a swing state where elections are won by the thinnest of margins.

The trap door to reel us in has been set by the GOP: socialism.

Donald Trump is looking for a replay of 2016 — and the only way a president who has chaotically mismanaged a pandemic that has cost almost 200,000 American lives and plunged the economy into a deep dive can win again is to appeal to people’s worst fears.

Republicans — and most stridently among Hispanics, the Cuban Americans — are casting President Trump as a savior from the type of socialism we left behind while painting Democrat Joe Biden, a centrist his entire political career, as a leftist.

“What I learned from communists is that the key to get your followers to forgive your excesses and immorality is to convince them that the alternative is unacceptable,” says Guennavy Rodriguez, the 39-year-old Cuban editor of the political blog and podcast Flagler y 23 in Miami. “Everything is forgiven for Trump as long as he devotes his daily prayers to the ‘communism’ that threatens us.”

But Latinos should weigh the facts: Who’s the real dictator?

https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/ap_news/fabiola-santiago-trump-isnt-our-savior-from-socialism-florida-latinos-hes-the-caudillo-we-fled/article_84b8ce86-10ab-5414-84ba-8369dc7982dd.html

[Rstrstx]

24. Mmm, Nixon won Florida in 1960 and HW Bush took it in 1992

Winning FL would pretty much guarantee a Biden win but thanks to the moves of NV, CO, and VA away from the Republican Party it’s not the must win state it was 20 years ago.

[vercetti2021]

2. I don't understand this

How can they really believe that under Biden it would be socialism or anything? Don't they see Trump is literally a fascist wannabe that would kick them out or round them up given the chance?

Lord help us these old Cuban American's really favor a fascist over a real American.

[Ilsa]

5. A friend from Florida said the older Cuban Americans likely

suffer from a form of PTSD. She said they are afraid of any label of "socialism." They cannot see the forest for the trees, though, when it comes to dictators.

[vercetti2021]

6. So they can't see Trump as one?

Like for real? I can understand its traumatic for them and what they went through. But they'll go through it again if Trump wins again.

[Ilsa]

8. For some reason, they don't see those signs. nt

[vercetti2021]

9. What the fuck?

Like literally. What the ever loving fuck?!

[still_one]

11. That is what the polls indicate, though even among non-Cuban Latinos, Hillary did better than Biden

is currently doing

The Democratic socialist politics does not seem to resonate well in Florida, so Biden needs to do a lot of work there

I think Biden can improve his numbers in Florida by using the Social Security issue against trump among the older population there

[JI7]

13. It's not just cuban hispanics turned off by socialism. it's others also. Latin countries have

suffered under the right and the left.

[still_one]

16. That is why I noted that Hillary polled better than Biden among non-Cuban Latinos

The Biden/Harris campaign needs to spend more time in Florida, and they are. I believe Harris will be there today

[JI7]

20. Yes, I think her mother's immigration story and how that influenced Harris

can work well there .

[still_one]

23. Excellent point. Her history is the ideal American dream, and I agree with your assessment

[brush]

29. Biden is still ahead though with non-Cuban latinx.

[still_one]

30. Yes, but significantly lower than Hillary did in 2016

[Ilsa]

14. I think that needs to be the plan: show

all the video and reports of trump promising to diminish and rid us of SSI, SSD.

[still_one]

17. Yes, especially Florida because of a significant older population, but it also carries well

nationally

[uponit7771]

39. Granular messaging, few people are politicos WE HAVE TO REACH THAT SPECIFIC POPULOUS 1 at a time

[csziggy]

48. Florida Hispanics are not one bloc of voters

There are the descendants of early Cuban immigrants who have lived in Florida, mostly in the Ybor City area of Tampa, for a hundred years or more. There are the Cubans who fled the threat of revolution and the establishment of Communist Cuba in the . There are the Cubans who fled the actuality of living in Communist Cuba.

Then there are Puerto Ricans who as citizens are full Americans by birth and who have had multiple influxes for different reasons. The people of Mexican and Central American descent who are both American by birth and undocumented - and who are most often relegated to low level jobs such as fruit and vegetable harvesters or skilled trades such as construction work.

The Cubans who fled Cuban during and after the revolutions are most often Republican. The other groups fit into various categories, including a lot who can't or don't vote.

I've mostly met Ybor City Cubans (my mother's cousin married one), went to school with migrant Mexican workers' children (who for some reason were not excluded from our schools even before desegregation), and met construction workers (possibly Mexican or Central American - groups in which the supervisor was the only one who spoke much English). I have not had a chance to discuss politics with any of them.

[Buckeyeblue]

4. Wasn't Cuba more authoritarian than communist?

Maybe in his early days, Castro was all about the idealism of Marx. But that quickly changed to staying in power at all cost. Seems like a pure Marxist would be open to regime change if it furthered the interest of the party.

We should being pointing out that Trump is a Castro want to be. Complete with having the family run the country.

[still_one]

7. In Miami Dade Biden leads among non-Cuba Hispanics, and loses among Cuban Hispanics

I suspect that may be affected by the Democratic Socialist wing of the party which show the difference between Cuban and non-Cuban voters

Still Hillary did much better in both groups in 2016

This implies that The Biden/Harris campaign and Democrats must spend more time in Florida

In general, places like Florida, the socialist message does not resonate well according to the polls

[OnDoutside]

10. Morning Joe has been discussing it in the first hour. IF TRUE, someone needs to be fired for the

lack of sufficient outreach to Hispanic voters in Florida, ESPECIALLY the Puerto Ricans who have been forced to move across from PR. Rick Wilson wrote a f**king book about it ffs. You get the Puerto Ricans signed up and it would help hugely to counter the Republican Cuban vote.

[dem4decades]

19. How is Biden not more popular with the Puerto Rican community? He's supported statehood.

[OnDoutside]

44. His campaign need to go find and register them. They have known this since the Midterms.

[brush]

31. Winning Florida is not as important now as it once was, what with...

other swing states like Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania in play where we are ahead and doing well. It's about where you deploy your resources to get the best results. Florida would be nice but if other states are more promising...

[OnDoutside]

45. There's a big net positive amount of Puerto Ricans who would vote Dem in November. It is not a

hard sell, you just need to find and register them, with a promise that you will rebuild the PR economy/infrastructure.

[BannonsLiver]

37. Many Cubans hate the party's ideology for religious reasons

They have been absorbed into the GOP propaganda nuttery on fiscal issues, and their sometimes misogynist culture that’s heavy on religion reinforces the idea that men are in control of a woman’s body when it comes to reproductive rights.

Even though they are quietly hated by white conservatives because they’re brown, they still embrace conservatism anyway. Often gleefully.

[OnDoutside]

46. I agree, but there are a lot of other Hispanic voters who are a lot easier to get, IF you ask for

their vote. As I said elsewhere, they knew about the lack of Puerto Rican (in FL) outreach after the Midterms, and if this is true, it is frankly malpractice not to have made the inroads they should have made.

[JI7]

12. Andrew Gillum and a bunch of other Democrats lost there in 2018 . The socalist bs doesn't work there

It's not just Cuban hispanics either. People from Venezuela and other places where they faced tough times.

I know the old cubans are just right wing anti castro types. But many hispanics (and this was true of chinese and vietnamense and others) who came from countries that were leftist and suffered there get turned off by socialist talk .

They vote on fear .

I mentioned before that Obama was good at avoiding saying things which turned off groups like this. This was true of white racists also who stopped supporting him after he mentioned that blacks and hispanics are stopped by cops unfairly after the professor gates incident.

I think Biden and KAmala Harris still have the ability to do this. Harris is scheduled to be there and i'm sure Biden will follow up.

I suggested before that Biden needs to run ads showing his support for Small BUsinesses and go after Trump on sucking up to Putin and Kim.

[obamanut2012]

15. Who is "Hilary"?

And, how often are y'all going post this poll?

[Iliyah]

18. From what I've been seeing . . .

if anything, the race is even . ..

Younger Cubans are more left.

[JI7]

22. Because Biden does better with White Voters than Hillary did . So that's another area we need

to focus on in getting out support .

[arlyellowdog]

21. Spanish media propaganda

My Spanish speaking friends warn me about all sorts of conspiracies (QANON crap) that are being aired to the community from foreign media from Columbia and other countries. They are being told the Dems will let in gangs or that they are trying to get their children. The thing is they don’t believe Biden is bad but believe he is a pawn. I know people are trying to counteract this, but we do need Biden to make a Spanish translated speech calling out the conspiracies and promising to protect the American Latino communities.

[andym]

43. Sounds like a good idea! NT.

[Nikki28]

25. this makes me sad

and nervous.I hope Biden/Harris can change this. I think this is why Trump is campaigning because he is the sitting president and has an advantage there, not to mention Putin is probably playing with the votes.I am feeling hopeless this morning.

[Vinca]

26. I don't get this at all. Trump is more like Castro than anything else.

[PunkinPi]

27. Kamala Harris to campaign in Miami on Thursday

BREAKING: Kamala Harris to campaign in Miami on Thursday

The Biden-Harris campaign said Monday that vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris will campaign in Miami on Thursday.

It will be Harris' first in-person appearance in Florida since becoming the Democratic Party's vice presidential nominee last month.

Her husband, Doug Emhoff, will accompany her. Emhoff kicked off a "Believers for Biden" series of virtual events on Aug. 28 with Jewish leaders.

Florida is a key state in the election with its 29 electoral votes up for grabs on Nov. 3.

On Tuesday, President Trump will campaign in Jupiter. The White House said Saturday he will use the event to tout the administration's environmental record.

Jill Biden, the former vice president's wife, held a virtual town hall with faculty and students at Pasco-Hernando State College outside of Tampa last week. She will host a virtual roundtable discussion on school reopenings in Jacksonville on Tuesday afternoon with Duval County parents and teachers, the campaign said.

Source (no more at link): https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/07/kamala-harris-campaign-miami-thursday/5738954002/

[Rice4VP]

34. They have $300M

They need to get two planes, design them and go to a different swing state DAILY.

The senate isn’t doing anything, she needs to go to Florida, Texas, North Carolina and Arizona and he needs to live in Michigan, PA, Minnesota, Ohio, and Wisconsin. They need to go to Nevada and Colorado.

Mobilize Beto in Texas

[BannonsLiver]

38. The plane idea is dumb

[ellie]

42. Biden and Harris

do not need to come to Colorado. We are a blue state and have a red senator we are going to kick to the curb in November (Gardner).

[sop]

28. Many older Cuban Americans will vote for Trump, much like many white, working class, rural

southerners reliably vote Republican, even though doing so is against their own interests.

[mecherosegarden]

32. And people from Venezuela lean toward Trump.

He said something about getting rid of Maduro and now many Venezuelan consider him to be the savior, the chosen one.

[obamanut2012]

33. Puerto Ricans vote overwhelmingly Dem

And, we have a lot of folks from PR here, even more since 2016 due to hurricanes.

[Kid Berwyn]

35. Please don't neglect the truth, Florida.

[Le Roi de Pot]

36. They were the capitalist class in their countries when they fled theirs

Imagine if all the Republicans fleeing USA ( Lord please make that happen) and land up in Brazil .. They will try to fuck it up there too.

[Klaralven]

41. Not all -- some were fleeing criminal narcotics organizations and criminal gangs

But that may make "law and order" attractive to them.

[tavernier]

40. Castro was a dictator

Trump is hoping to be one.

[edhopper]

47. I'm not hopeful about FL

as long as DeSantis is Governor.