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September 9, 2020
By Travis Gettys
Former FBI agent Peter Strzok says he could have destroyed President Donald Trump during the 2016 campaign, but he was not willing to violate his oath by revealing classified intelligence.
Strzok who has become a favorite target of the president and his Republican allies told MSNBCs Morning Joe that he could have destroyed Trumps campaign with classified information the administration was still hiding from the public.
Absolutely there are things that are not known that would still be damaging, Strzok said. The decision to release that is up to the administration. Youve seen them declassify material, which unsurprisingly tends to all be helpful to President Trump. Theres a lot of material that simply is classified and that I cant talk about, but its there.
The American public has a right to know it, but that is a decision for the administration to do. I cant go declassifying information, he added. Im going to honor my oath to both the office that I held, as well as the security clearance that I held. That information, the American public deserves it, and the administration, frankly, deserves to have that known, as well.
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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/fbi-is-sitting-on-classified-information-that-could-destroy-trump-ex-agent-peter-strzok/
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)FBI Wray needs to come forth for the sake of the country.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)"someone" can leave copies of documents next to a public photocopier and, using a burner phone, can make a "Deep Throat" call to left-leaning media outlets. Rubber gloves are required.
woodsprite
(11,905 posts)Against enemies foreign and domestic?
triron
(21,984 posts)He's just afraid of being prosecuted by Barr.
In order to be rehired and then do what needs to be done after January. You violate the oath, you're done as far as any gov't. job afterward. New admin might find his institutional knowledge helpful. I suspect there will be a lot of civil servants given the opportunity to be rehired in the new admin.
ihas2stinkyfeet
(1,400 posts)I think all fed employees do. I had to even as an intern at a fed agency.
2naSalit
(86,332 posts)to defend the Constitution. In the Senior Executive Service there are probably additional oaths regarding national security within the intel realm.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Can you imagine how large their file is on Trump?
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)Golden Raisin
(4,605 posts)But not many willing to voluntarily give up their careers and life and suffer the inevitable horrendous consequences.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)Several years ago, if I recall correctly, several IRS employees somewhere were fired because they'd taken unauthorized looks at tax returns they were not okay to look at. Apparently, they could tell who had looked at what electronic files. I'm sure anyone even looking at Trump's files who wasn't someone who was okay to do so would get caught.
And I suspect it wouldn't be merely being fired, but jail time is probably inevitable.
We all need to know that our IRS info is completely secure. All of us.
Tanuki
(14,914 posts)was hospitalized or receiving outpatient treatment and staff members not involved in their care peeked at the files out of curiosity. They were traced and in many cases they were summarily fired and even had their professional licenses suspended.
bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)ScratchCat
(1,977 posts)And I am pretty sure that what he is referring to is the fact that they knew Roger Stone was in direct communication with Donald Trump regarding WikiLeaks and the nonsense Stone was up to. That shows clear "collusion" with the attempts to hack and distribute DNC emails.
stopdiggin
(11,248 posts)including the statement that they are "sitting on classified" ....
Well, yeah -- that's kinda' what the government does. Strzok is one of the good guys -- but this interview doesn't really cover any new territory -- and it isn't going to result in meaningful action or change. Just getting up there and saying, "We know stuff" is kind of a meaningless gesture.
bluestarone
(16,870 posts)I DO NOT want to give the courts any excuse, that information against tRUMP was illegally received!! I want him and family in prison!! No loopholes that allow him out of prosecution!!!!!
llmart
(15,533 posts)As much as I would love it if that happened, it's not going to happen. Maybe one of the hapless kids might but not him.
Marcuse
(7,446 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Until disproved that is my story and I am sticking to it.
2naSalit
(86,332 posts)Because it's the truth.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)America & hates America! One of many cons is that he darn well didn't "Make America Great Again"!...
Ohioboy
(3,239 posts)Get him out of there!
Kid Berwyn
(14,808 posts)Then theres the Pee Tapes.
mysteryowl
(7,363 posts)Remember how important it was for Comey to come forward with information on HRC.
Why was it not important for Comey to come forward with information about Trump?
Why is this SOB being protected by so many?!!!!
Evolve Dammit
(16,697 posts)dmr
(28,344 posts)NYC FBI agents. They hated Hillary with a purple passion and it was strongly suspected they were feeding Rudy Giuliani info. Giuliani pretty much said they kept him informed.
Comey feared if he didn't act then, the rogue agents would have leaked it to a hungry media, so shamefully Comey beat them to the punch.
It tells me there was no honor in the NY office, and it also showed that Comey could be manipulated to do something against their own policies of revealing info prior to an election. They sure didn't inform us of the investigation behind Trump's traitorous activities. Arghhh ...
We have to rid ourselves of these opportunistic, corrupt traitors.
intheflow
(28,443 posts)This shouldn't even be an internal conflict. Your oath is not as important as the country. I wish these people would grow spines and whistle blow. It would be the truly patriotic thing to do.
Glorfindel
(9,719 posts)Is Strzok really saying that the Obama administration was "still" hiding classfied information from the public?
"Former FBI agent Peter Strzok says he could have destroyed President Donald Trump during the 2016 campaign, but he was not willing to violate his oath by revealing classified intelligence.
Strzok who has become a favorite target of the president and his Republican allies told MSNBCs Morning Joe that he could have destroyed Trumps campaign with classified information the administration was still hiding from the public. "
Something about that just doesn't sound right.
Texin
(2,590 posts)The intelligence was collected in that timeframe, and Obama demurred in allowing it to be publicized. He DID, however, approach McConnell and other rethug leadership about making this information known (about tRump's involvement with Russia and the Wikileaks/Assange connection), but they absolutely refused to let any of this be made public. Frankly, I never understood why he didn't just come right out with that information. I was furious with him, in fact, for withholding it. I'll never fully understand why he fucking thought he needed goddamned McConnell's approval. For that matter, I'll never understand why he didn't make more noise about them blocking his nomination of Merrick Garland going forward.
stopdiggin
(11,248 posts)and the answer to all of this is that Obama was a far more honorable man than those that followed him. (Or those he was dealing with at the time) There was a code against throwing bombs during the election cycle (which Comey took upon himself to unilaterally break -- to the derision and disgust of many of his contemporaries). I don't know if I can find fault with Obama for respecting the office and the electoral process.
If you want a good example of how not to do it ....
oldsoftie
(12,492 posts)He must be writing a book soon
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)all of the Trump file. Don't much care about the precedent, the promise alone will demoralize Trump supporters and motivate libs, IMHO.
andym
(5,443 posts)Mueller would have had access to it. So what could it be? The FBI spends a lot of effort on organized crime, which is very active in NYC. Comey would have seen it, and he accused Trump of acting like a mobster-- so my guess would be serious mob ties from years ago, including acting on the mob's behalf. Let the conspiracy theories begin.
LudwigPastorius
(9,110 posts)eliminated him as a candidate for any rational and decent human being.
Trump supporters are neither rational nor decent.
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)Don't FBI agents take an oath to The Law? The Constitution? The Protection of the American People?
If he's got information on foreign interference or Trump corruptionhe should get his priorities in order.
He's pathetic. Disgusting. A book deal. Like Bolton.
superpatriotman
(6,246 posts)I'll be brave and make it public for you.
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)And later with Russian mobsters. The NY mob association actually started with Trumps father. One of Olears more interesting suppositions was that Trump has long been a Confidential Informant for the FBI, which he became to avoid prosecution for his own crimes. Its an interesting theory because it would explain how Trump has avoided prosecution for things like money laundering for the New Jersey and Russian mobs through real estate and casinos.
F that really is the case, the FBI would have a very thick file on Trump, which Strzok is likely to know about. Its entirely believable that Trump would turn on business associates to save himself.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)twitter.com/LincolnsBible <---lots of info on mob ties, the Gambino and Genovese crime families that Trump has been associated with since birth. LincolnsBible has had a 35+ year career in "one of the 3 intelligence agencies, FBI, CIA, NSA". She says that Donnie is a CI (Confidential Informant) for the government, i.e., a snitch.
Also info on Trump's dementia symptoms - twitter.com/TomJChicago
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)It's a couple of years old but it is as deep a dive as a reporter could do at the time. He traces Trump's relationships back a long ways (and Fred Sr, too). It's been awhile since I've read it. Think it goes back to the Seventies. Michael Cohen's family is mentioned too, as his family also had ties.
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)I was wondering if Strzok was going to do TV for his book.
Blue Owl
(50,273 posts)That'll work out well...
Skittles
(153,113 posts)W.T.F.