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catbyte

(34,341 posts)
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 09:38 AM Sep 2020

FBI is sitting on classified information that could destroy Trump: Ex-agent Peter Strzok

September 9, 2020
By Travis Gettys



Former FBI agent Peter Strzok says he could have destroyed President Donald Trump during the 2016 campaign, but he was not willing to violate his oath by revealing classified intelligence.

Strzok — who has become a favorite target of the president and his Republican allies — told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that he could have destroyed Trump’s campaign with classified information the administration was still hiding from the public.

“Absolutely there are things that are not known that would still be damaging,” Strzok said. “The decision to release that is up to the administration. You’ve seen them declassify material, which unsurprisingly tends to all be helpful to President Trump. There’s a lot of material that simply is classified and that I can’t talk about, but it’s there.”

“The American public has a right to know it, but that is a decision for the administration to do. I can’t go declassifying information,” he added. “I’m going to honor my oath to both the office that I held, as well as the security clearance that I held. That information, the American public deserves it, and the administration, frankly, deserves to have that known, as well.”

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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/fbi-is-sitting-on-classified-information-that-could-destroy-trump-ex-agent-peter-strzok/
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FBI is sitting on classified information that could destroy Trump: Ex-agent Peter Strzok (Original Post) catbyte Sep 2020 OP
treason barr needs to be disbarred and removed . . Iliyah Sep 2020 #1
He can't talk about it, but... CaptYossarian Sep 2020 #2
Do FBI agents take an oath to the Constitution as well? woodsprite Sep 2020 #3
This would seem a much stronger argument than just that it's 'classified'! triron Sep 2020 #5
And... 2naSalit Sep 2020 #24
well, let's hope someone is retiring and pissed off. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #46
Probably MissB Sep 2020 #6
All federal employeestake the oath... 2naSalit Sep 2020 #25
Well we know from Snowden that the NSA collects information on all us. fescuerescue Sep 2020 #4
So we need another principled leaker. Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #7
Also someone at IRS. Golden Raisin Sep 2020 #8
Any IRS employee would face severe consequences if they did anything like releasing Trump records. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #23
Same with electronic medical files. There have been instances in which a celebrity Tanuki Sep 2020 #38
I'm sure it will all be released after he wins a 2nd term. bullwinkle428 Sep 2020 #9
I don't think this is a "secret" ScratchCat Sep 2020 #10
as far as I can tell there is nothing new here at all stopdiggin Sep 2020 #31
I would like to see them release anything AND everything against tRUMP, BUT bluestarone Sep 2020 #11
I doubt he'll ever be going to prison. llmart Sep 2020 #15
Right. We don't want another Oliver North "get out of prison card". Marcuse Sep 2020 #22
I interpret this as "he has committed treason" SoonerPride Sep 2020 #12
I'm stickin' with it too. 2naSalit Sep 2020 #26
I'm with you on that. His actions have been obvious that he has been destroying Illumination Sep 2020 #30
Wouldn't it be nice to have transparency and not need leaking Ohioboy Sep 2020 #13
NSA transcriptions of Putin programming Trump. Kid Berwyn Sep 2020 #14
Hypocrisy and corruption mysteryowl Sep 2020 #16
I don't get that either. For the sake of our country, stand up and let the facts come out. Evolve Dammit Sep 2020 #19
I think the primary reason Comey came forward was because of the rogue dmr Sep 2020 #32
Honoring an oath vs. getting rid of a despot... intheflow Sep 2020 #17
The 2016 campaign happened under the Obama administration Glorfindel Sep 2020 #18
Well, he has referred to 2016, therefore, Obama was in office at that time. Texin Sep 2020 #21
your 100% correct stopdiggin Sep 2020 #33
No it doesnt. And no one from the Obama admin has said anything like this. oldsoftie Sep 2020 #37
Biden should promise to declassify Pantagruel Sep 2020 #20
Probably information that is not related to Russia andym Sep 2020 #27
We've seen, time after time, information about Trump revealed that [i]should[/i] have... LudwigPastorius Sep 2020 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 #29
Eff-off. zentrum Sep 2020 #34
Whisper it in my ear superpatriotman Sep 2020 #35
Not long ago I read some of Greg Olear's posts about Trump's history with the NY mob. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #36
There's a long history of mob ties with Trump. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2020 #39
You might like Craig Unger's book Mike 03 Sep 2020 #42
Thank you. I'll check it out. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #43
K&R UTUSN Sep 2020 #40
Excellent. Thank you for posting. Mike 03 Sep 2020 #41
Let's keep this lying, racist, raving lunatic at the helm Blue Owl Sep 2020 #44
yet HILLARY'S EMAILS WERE TALKED ABOUT?? Skittles Sep 2020 #45

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. treason barr needs to be disbarred and removed . .
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 09:47 AM
Sep 2020

FBI Wray needs to come forth for the sake of the country.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
2. He can't talk about it, but...
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 09:51 AM
Sep 2020

"someone" can leave copies of documents next to a public photocopier and, using a burner phone, can make a "Deep Throat" call to left-leaning media outlets. Rubber gloves are required.

triron

(21,984 posts)
5. This would seem a much stronger argument than just that it's 'classified'!
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:18 AM
Sep 2020

He's just afraid of being prosecuted by Barr.

2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
24. And...
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:46 AM
Sep 2020

In order to be rehired and then do what needs to be done after January. You violate the oath, you're done as far as any gov't. job afterward. New admin might find his institutional knowledge helpful. I suspect there will be a lot of civil servants given the opportunity to be rehired in the new admin.

2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
25. All federal employeestake the oath...
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:49 AM
Sep 2020

to defend the Constitution. In the Senior Executive Service there are probably additional oaths regarding national security within the intel realm.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
4. Well we know from Snowden that the NSA collects information on all us.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:07 AM
Sep 2020

Can you imagine how large their file is on Trump?

Golden Raisin

(4,605 posts)
8. Also someone at IRS.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:42 AM
Sep 2020

But not many willing to voluntarily give up their careers and life and suffer the inevitable horrendous consequences.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
23. Any IRS employee would face severe consequences if they did anything like releasing Trump records.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:37 AM
Sep 2020

Several years ago, if I recall correctly, several IRS employees somewhere were fired because they'd taken unauthorized looks at tax returns they were not okay to look at. Apparently, they could tell who had looked at what electronic files. I'm sure anyone even looking at Trump's files who wasn't someone who was okay to do so would get caught.

And I suspect it wouldn't be merely being fired, but jail time is probably inevitable.

We all need to know that our IRS info is completely secure. All of us.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
38. Same with electronic medical files. There have been instances in which a celebrity
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:54 PM
Sep 2020

was hospitalized or receiving outpatient treatment and staff members not involved in their care peeked at the files out of curiosity. They were traced and in many cases they were summarily fired and even had their professional licenses suspended.

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
10. I don't think this is a "secret"
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:52 AM
Sep 2020

And I am pretty sure that what he is referring to is the fact that they knew Roger Stone was in direct communication with Donald Trump regarding WikiLeaks and the nonsense Stone was up to. That shows clear "collusion" with the attempts to hack and distribute DNC emails.

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
31. as far as I can tell there is nothing new here at all
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:24 PM
Sep 2020

including the statement that they are "sitting on classified" ....
Well, yeah -- that's kinda' what the government does. Strzok is one of the good guys -- but this interview doesn't really cover any new territory -- and it isn't going to result in meaningful action or change. Just getting up there and saying, "We know stuff" is kind of a meaningless gesture.

bluestarone

(16,870 posts)
11. I would like to see them release anything AND everything against tRUMP, BUT
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:01 AM
Sep 2020

I DO NOT want to give the courts any excuse, that information against tRUMP was illegally received!! I want him and family in prison!! No loopholes that allow him out of prosecution!!!!!

llmart

(15,533 posts)
15. I doubt he'll ever be going to prison.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:12 AM
Sep 2020

As much as I would love it if that happened, it's not going to happen. Maybe one of the hapless kids might but not him.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
12. I interpret this as "he has committed treason"
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:05 AM
Sep 2020

Until disproved that is my story and I am sticking to it.

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
30. I'm with you on that. His actions have been obvious that he has been destroying
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:23 PM
Sep 2020

America & hates America! One of many cons is that he darn well didn't "Make America Great Again"!...

mysteryowl

(7,363 posts)
16. Hypocrisy and corruption
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:15 AM
Sep 2020

Remember how important it was for Comey to come forward with information on HRC.
Why was it not important for Comey to come forward with information about Trump?

Why is this SOB being protected by so many?!!!!

dmr

(28,344 posts)
32. I think the primary reason Comey came forward was because of the rogue
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:31 PM
Sep 2020

NYC FBI agents. They hated Hillary with a purple passion and it was strongly suspected they were feeding Rudy Giuliani info. Giuliani pretty much said they kept him informed.

Comey feared if he didn't act then, the rogue agents would have leaked it to a hungry media, so shamefully Comey beat them to the punch.

It tells me there was no honor in the NY office, and it also showed that Comey could be manipulated to do something against their own policies of revealing info prior to an election. They sure didn't inform us of the investigation behind Trump's traitorous activities. Arghhh ...

We have to rid ourselves of these opportunistic, corrupt traitors.


intheflow

(28,443 posts)
17. Honoring an oath vs. getting rid of a despot...
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:15 AM
Sep 2020

This shouldn't even be an internal conflict. Your oath is not as important as the country. I wish these people would grow spines and whistle blow. It would be the truly patriotic thing to do.

Glorfindel

(9,719 posts)
18. The 2016 campaign happened under the Obama administration
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:17 AM
Sep 2020

Is Strzok really saying that the Obama administration was "still" hiding classfied information from the public?

"Former FBI agent Peter Strzok says he could have destroyed President Donald Trump during the 2016 campaign, but he was not willing to violate his oath by revealing classified intelligence.

Strzok — who has become a favorite target of the president and his Republican allies — told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that he could have destroyed Trump’s campaign with classified information the administration was still hiding from the public. "

Something about that just doesn't sound right.

Texin

(2,590 posts)
21. Well, he has referred to 2016, therefore, Obama was in office at that time.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:34 AM
Sep 2020

The intelligence was collected in that timeframe, and Obama demurred in allowing it to be publicized. He DID, however, approach McConnell and other rethug leadership about making this information known (about tRump's involvement with Russia and the Wikileaks/Assange connection), but they absolutely refused to let any of this be made public. Frankly, I never understood why he didn't just come right out with that information. I was furious with him, in fact, for withholding it. I'll never fully understand why he fucking thought he needed goddamned McConnell's approval. For that matter, I'll never understand why he didn't make more noise about them blocking his nomination of Merrick Garland going forward.

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
33. your 100% correct
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:40 PM
Sep 2020

and the answer to all of this is that Obama was a far more honorable man than those that followed him. (Or those he was dealing with at the time) There was a code against throwing bombs during the election cycle (which Comey took upon himself to unilaterally break -- to the derision and disgust of many of his contemporaries). I don't know if I can find fault with Obama for respecting the office and the electoral process.

If you want a good example of how not to do it ....

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
37. No it doesnt. And no one from the Obama admin has said anything like this.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:46 PM
Sep 2020

He must be writing a book soon

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
20. Biden should promise to declassify
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:29 AM
Sep 2020

all of the Trump file. Don't much care about the precedent, the promise alone will demoralize Trump supporters and motivate libs, IMHO.

andym

(5,443 posts)
27. Probably information that is not related to Russia
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:54 AM
Sep 2020

Mueller would have had access to it. So what could it be? The FBI spends a lot of effort on organized crime, which is very active in NYC. Comey would have seen it, and he accused Trump of acting like a mobster-- so my guess would be serious mob ties from years ago, including acting on the mob's behalf. Let the conspiracy theories begin.

LudwigPastorius

(9,110 posts)
28. We've seen, time after time, information about Trump revealed that [i]should[/i] have...
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:01 PM
Sep 2020

eliminated him as a candidate for any rational and decent human being.

Trump supporters are neither rational nor decent.

Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #28)

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
34. Eff-off.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:42 PM
Sep 2020

Don't FBI agents take an oath to The Law? The Constitution? The Protection of the American People?

If he's got information on foreign interference or Trump corruption—he should get his priorities in order.

He's pathetic. Disgusting. A book deal. Like Bolton.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
36. Not long ago I read some of Greg Olear's posts about Trump's history with the NY mob.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:46 PM
Sep 2020

And later with Russian mobsters. The NY mob association actually started with Trump’s father. One of Olear’s more interesting suppositions was that Trump has long been a Confidential Informant for the FBI, which he became to avoid prosecution for his own crimes. It’s an interesting theory because it would explain how Trump has avoided prosecution for things like money laundering for the New Jersey and Russian mobs through real estate and casinos.

F that really is the case, the FBI would have a very thick file on Trump, which Strzok is likely to know about. It’s entirely believable that Trump would turn on business associates to save himself.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
39. There's a long history of mob ties with Trump.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 04:49 PM
Sep 2020

twitter.com/LincolnsBible <---lots of info on mob ties, the Gambino and Genovese crime families that Trump has been associated with since birth. LincolnsBible has had a 35+ year career in "one of the 3 intelligence agencies, FBI, CIA, NSA". She says that Donnie is a CI (Confidential Informant) for the government, i.e., a snitch.

Also info on Trump's dementia symptoms - twitter.com/TomJChicago

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
42. You might like Craig Unger's book
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 05:19 PM
Sep 2020
House of Trump, House of Putin

It's a couple of years old but it is as deep a dive as a reporter could do at the time. He traces Trump's relationships back a long ways (and Fred Sr, too). It's been awhile since I've read it. Think it goes back to the Seventies. Michael Cohen's family is mentioned too, as his family also had ties.
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