JFC - Fuck Bob Woodward too!

[maxrandb]

I don't want to change the subject from this absolutely devastating book and the tapes that go along with it, but fuck!!!!!

How could you be a fucking journalist and NOT fucking put these tapes out months ago?

How many Americans died because the president lied to the country... and a fucking reporter KNEW?

Donnie Shit for Brains not only needs to get his ass kicked this November, he needs to be charged with negligent homicide!

If this revelation doesn't kill the entire Retrumplican Party, this country deserves to fucking die!

And now, they'll fucking normalize this shit by saying; "he didn't want to cause a panic".

My God, this evil fuckstick and his asspickle enablers and defenders need to be fucking removed from society so they can't do any more damage.

They are nothing but a fucking threat to humanity.

[Laelth]

1. Righteous rant, and I agree. k&r n/t

-Laelth

[TheBlackAdder]

19. JFC says it all!

[Laelth]

22. JFC is precisely what I said when this story broke. n/t

-Laelth

[Traildogbob]

40. Confused

I know he did magic tricks, but Jesus fucking Christ would be difficult. Some species are asexual but I am impressed with this trick from Gods boy. If we could do this, rape would absolute.

[Laelth]

44. "All things are possible with God."

Did you skip that lesson in Sunday School?

-Laelth

[Traildogbob]

45. He definitely

“Works in strange ways” as they say.

[Laelth]

52. Mysterious. Not strange, mysterious.

You definitely need to bone up, so to speak, on your kiddie-level Christian dogma.





-Laelth

[Traildogbob]

66. You are right

I lost interest in the cult as soon as I could think on my own. I do remember in the Olden days of Sunday school we were forced to attend that Jesus and God’s love and protection from evil was the highlighted messaging, fear of fire was a big part to lure you and keep you. We sure could use some mysterious Fish And Bread magic and caring for poor, sick, and elderly about now. But that don’t sell. The dream of being a Devos, Graham, Falwell and Olsteen millionaire is the new message in the book of mysterious magic. But ya gotta hate, get rid of colored people standing in you way to get there, then get to streets of gold, Mansions on hills, and 70+ teenage virgins for eternity. Never could understand how that did not sell Trump to religion. Then I realized, he would never play second fiddle to power of God or Jesus.

[Laelth]

68. Fair. n/t

-Laelth

[triron]

42. 2nd that.

[onecaliberal]

2. Hear, hear!

[LexVegas]

3. $$$

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

4. no lies detected.

like he needs the money from another book?!?!

[Laffy Kat]

5. Good point.

There's really only one reason: to sell books.

[BComplex]

6. I agree.

This should have come to light almost 200,000 deaths ago.

What a money-grabbing POS.

[ananda]

71. Simple solution. Don't buy the fucking book!

And don't watch normalizing TV!

[BannonsLiver]

7. My guess is the GOP whataboutists will take a similar view

“Well what about Bob Woodward, he knew Trump said it, what about him?” or something along those lines.

I’m not saying you aren’t right to be mad. I’m saying the Trumpian defense will be along similar lines.

[maxrandb]

11. And I don't disagree with them

How many lives could have been saved if these tapes had come out 150K deaths ago?

And let's never forget... the Retrumplican Party had an opportunity to remove this asspickle from office and they didn't even call one fucking witness

[BannonsLiver]

32. Zero, unless Trump was embarrassed by the tapes enough to change his CV19 response.

[Celerity]

53. The US did not even have a known death from COVID-19 until February 28th.

They much later did post-mortem testing that kicked it back to February 6th. Trump COMPLETELY knew in January how extremely dangerous it was but was still publicly insinuating or giving a wink and a nod that it was a hoax until near APRIL. He fucked off for at least 2 months, knowing how bad it was the whole time. I am sure he eas under orders from the Kremlin.

He needs to be given a fair trial and executed if that is proven. Not locked away, hung like the traitor he is. Many others should join him on the gallows. I am NOT having a laugh. I am deadly serious. If he skates the country is DONE. The next bad POTUS will start out at or near Trump level madness and extend it further.

[AdamGG]

117. Then in April he said that he wanted the churches to be packed for Easter

If Putin wanted our federal COVID response to be maximally mishandled to create maximum damage and chaos, there isn't a single thing that would be changed. Hydroxychloroquine? Injecting disenfectant and internal blacklights?

The fact that Trump still polls within 10 points in any swing state is a disgrace. He is still far more in the game than any interpretation of reality should allow.

[Celerity]

137. it is almost as if Rump was scientifically designed to destroy the US

He is every that is bad about the US rolled up into a sociopathic, narcissistic fat ball of orange carnival barker.

He is a 'worst of all that is bad about us' magnet AND megaphone.

He unleashed and then expands the inner demons of 100 million suckers, violent, racist, sexist, brainwashed, drunk with religious delusion, greedy, and hateful, fearful selfish suckers and fuckers.

sigh and yet rage as well I do

[ace3csusm]

28. Please stop make Bob Woodward the villian, this is on the President and staff

Woodward didnt have first hand knowledge of events, who else was in the room when they where told that it was 5 times more deadly, please dont let the President and his cabinet off the hook this..It was Feb 7th unless Woodward is a fortune teller how could he know what we where heading toward, dont forget Woodward wasnt voted into off its all on The President...

[BannonsLiver]

30. I must have missed the part where I did that

Talk to the OP.

[ace3csusm]

37. was replying to line of what they would have responded by others saying

“Well what about Bob Woodward, he knew Trump said it, what about him?” just agreeing with you on that others would say about Bob, just trying to add that this isnt on him and not let Trump try and push that narrative to blame others...Sorry it you took it in any other way...

[BannonsLiver]

43. Ok thank you for the clarification

[maxrandb]

38. I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time

It's perfectly acceptable to hold Donnie Shit for Brains and the entire Retrumplican Party accountable for negligent homicide , while also holding Woodward accountable for withholding tapes that could have saved 100K+ American lives.

That's my point. It's why my first reaction to this was JFC!!!!

How could you be a journalist and withhold this info?

Hell, how could you be a fucking human being and withhold this info???

[Tommymac]

113. This.

I posted a comment earlier today in another thread about this and got the 'poor bob woodward innocent as the sky is blue' response.

Thanks for the OP - needs to be said loudly and proudly.

[hjh3rd]

61. Woodward does have some responsibility

I agree it would not have been appropriate to say something last spring before everything blew up, but when things went to hell, he should have come forward. I am sick of all these reporters on holding off reporting serious issues until they could put it in a book (hello NY Times political reporters). That also goes for people like Peter Strzok as well. Don’t come out and say I know something devastating about Trump, but I can’t tell you. Well Mr Strzok can just sit back down and keep quiet since he isn’t contributing to the overall discourse and lends credence that all the information about Trump is all a lie. I am so sick of these faux patriots come forth to make a buck while the country burns. Rant over...

[mjvpi]

64. Plenty of deaths for two villians

Calling out Woodward in no way let’s the President off of the hook

[Griefbird]

94. Trump said it, so it must be true?

When did Trump ever tell the truth?

[dchill]

8. I agree. I can only pray that every book sold ...

... costs Trump a vote. Or two or three.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. It wouldn't have made any difference.

Trump would have done what he did anyhow, and his minions would have gone along with it. He and the GOP would have just claimed the tape was fake or doctored.

[mtngirl47]

18. This.

But Woodward should have told us what Trump said.

[still_one]

27. Absolutely. Just look at how many people still don't take precautions, and there is no ambiguity on

how dangerous the virus in

In addition, there is much more in this book, and the full story had to be told

[demmiblue]

70. I tend to agree. n/t

[rurallib]

80. I think you are right. Extra time would have given Trump and cohorts time to divert

and make up lies.

My first thought when hearing this was 'why didn't he say something earlier?' I will have to admit the timing here should come close to the knockout punch for Trump.

There is now little time to make up lies to counter Woodward's story. After the news on what he said about our troops, most news media is being more skeptical about what Trump says.
He seems to have little room for diversion either right now.

While I feel Woodward maybe should have sounded an alarm, I doubt the administration nor any of the fucking Republican governors who have greatly failed their states would have done anything different.
So maybe the timing is for the better.

[SophieJean]

96. It's great that you're able to state your opinion,

except too many people no longer can. But Woodward will make money from his book, and that's all that matters in shithole Amerika.

[rurallib]

98. the response I figured was coming

I just don't think that exposure earlier would have stopped anything and the master of diversion would have had it buried within couple of days. Maybe some would have been saved, but I doubt masking would have been required or PPE provided etc.

There were times last summer when I thought that Trump had finally stepped in it big time only to have a something else divert attention and the original problem was buried. I can vaguely remember what some of the incidents were.

For one I thought the huge outbreak of protests spontaneously across the country would be a death knell. Couple of months later they are but another blip on the continuum of Trump fuck-ups.

Also by now America's short term memory would have forgotten about a statement back in February.

I don't give two hoots about Woodward. These statements coming right before the election will be hard to bury. Coming on the heels of his statements about "sucker and loser" soldiers really exposes him. I am so hopeful that the two together will finally seal the coffin on his presidency.

Maybe his statements will also cause a bunch of senators to be beaten and the scourge of today's Republican Party will finally fall apart.

Believe me, I have much sympathy for every family that has suffered a covid loss. Each a tragedy that should never have happened.

[calimary]

116. Welcome to DU, SophieJean!

There are now 191,755 people who no longer can. No longer can - do ANYTHING. They're dead from COVID.

With almost 6.4 MILLION confirmed cases. That's the most recent data as of this writing anyway (shortly after 8pm, Pacific time).

[uponit7771]

89. To my life it would've made a difference to know it was airborne in Feb 6th

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

92. That fact was already generally known; it was included in all of the expert reports

that were available at the time. The extent to which it is airborne (as opposed to droplet-borne) was still being debated as recently as July, but the fact that it is a respiratory disease that is transmitted from person to person through breathing, coughing, etc., was public knowledge in February. I started avoiding people as soon as cases were reported in my state in early March.

[Trumpocalypse]

10. Woodward is a Republican

Always has been.

[LeftInTX]

136. Yes he is

[agingdem]

12. never could stand that self-serving preening jerk

more than likely if the book and tapes had come out earlier we would have forgotten all about it..we were kind of preoccupied with Trump's deadly virus and the George Floyd murder..can anyone remember anything about Bolton's book other than he was congressional hearing subpoena defying no-show?.. Woodward is a prick but now is the right time...

[Docreed2003]

13. Preach! Nt

[Klaralven]

14. Woodward wouldn't have been the only one that he said this to

The top levels of the White House and National Security establishment would have known the true situation as well.

[ace3csusm]

31. Yes I agree let place the blame to who knew first hand

They could have come forward ...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

33. Exactly, and they had a far greater obligation than Woodward

to tell the truth about what Trump knew because they were part of his administration. They knew it, too, and they didn't come forward either.

[Claustrum]

15. Not to mention it could potentially change the direction of Trump and the republican party

This shows they are hypocrites and putting a different stance in front of the camera and in private. It might have forced them to admit and treat COVID seriously. Or at least, not as anti-mask and anti-science as they stood.

[George II]

16. They have to do their legal homework first.

[still_one]

34. The book had to be completed first. These interviews and tapes took months and ended in June

The book covers a lot more than just the handling of the virus

Getting the full story out was critical

I don’t know if it will, but this should destroy trump and the republicans who gave him a free pass

The quotes from Fauci, Mattis, and others in this book are damning

If this doesn’t destroy Trump, and the republicans who backed him, the country is finished

[betsuni]

104. +1

[intheflow]

126. Yeah, my thought was that he might have been under a pre-publicity gag order.

Publishers love to control the marketing. I wouldn't assume this is on Woodward alone,

[still_one]

127. I heard today that in the book Woodward wanted to verify the information was correct among other

things before coming forward due to trump’s history of exaggeration and lies

[Botany]

17. "This is deadly stuff," Trump told Woodward on February 7.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142578662

[OMGWTF]

20. 'kna!

[TeamPooka]

21. Woodward, Bolton, both chose book sales over our nation.

[James48]

23. What are you talking about?

What book?

What tapes?

What did I miss?

[still_one]

26. Bob Woodward new book. It is damning. It should destroy him because in tapes Woodward made

with trump’s permission, he indicts himself

It is damning

I won’t be surprised if he resigns and Pence becomes president, and Pence pardons him

[PaulRevere08]

56. Or he just might pardon himself. I know it sounds ridiculous but a number of legal scholars seem

to feel he could. And if it gets to the SCOTUS, who knows what could happen.

[still_one]

60. He will have Pence do it

[OldManTarHeel]

65. I'd Be Surprised and Totally Shocked

Not gonna happen.

[still_one]

67. The republicans might do tell him to do it, and if he does so they will have Pence Pardon him

He can take a lot of republicans down with this if he stays in

[niyad]

57. Woodward's new book, apparently titled "Rage".

[gratuitous]

24. I remember 2004

In addition to the Swift Boat Veterans kerfuffle, which got PLENTY of media time for a bullshit hit job on John Kerry, the media were mildly interested in the shenanigans of the Bush administration and the possibility it was spying on American citizens. But the story never got any real traction, and remained a very minor side issue through election day.

Then, in December (with the election safely salted away for W) the New York Times broke the story that the Bush administration had indeed been using the CIA to spy on private citizens. The Times had sat on this bombshell story for months before the election. The stated rationale was that they didn't want to unduly influence the election outcome by publishing such a damning revelation that might have forced a reckoning of the Bush administration. Oh, they gave plenty of space to thoroughly air the Swift Boat lies, because, uh, journalism, but domestic spying by the incumbent administration wasn't something the American people really needed to know about in advance of casting their ballots.

And now, 16 years later, Bob Woodward has information that not just the Trump administration but Trump himself knew what was going on in the early days of the pandemic. But instead of telling the world about it to possibly prompt action that could have saved thousands of lives, Woodward sat on the information so he could sell more books several months later.

200,000 pandemic victims were not available for comment.

[still_one]

25. These conversations lasted months and months, and ended in June. There is more than the lies

about the virus in the book.

There is no ambiguity how dangerous the virus is now, and look how many people still don’t wear masks or social distancing

A lot of other information in this book needed to be brought out regarding just how dangerous he is. The book needed to be completed.

The book being released 2 months before the election should be a game changer

I would not be surprised if he resigned, and had Pence pardon him

[Squidly]

105. Bob Woodward

could be the direct cause of 2 presidents resigning...and the only 2 in history to do so.

[still_one]

106. we will see. Interesting observation

[Tribetime]

29. That was my reaction also. F Woodward

[GusBob]

35. I think he is an accomplice to murder

depraved indifference

and if his editor knew this, its a conspiracy

lock them all up

[Thekaspervote]

36. he may be releasing it now thinking it could hurt his re-election

Look..
How many people b4 Woodward said the very same things and it made NO difference to his blinded cult or the complicit gop??!!

Can we just not pile on...please!

[LakeArenal]

99. Once again, I'm with you.

It takes time to edit the tapes and write the book.
I think the timing is working fine.
Nothing new really. Just proof of what we already knew.

[Heartstrings]

114. Absolutely!

There was a lot of preparation for this bombshell. But it’s out there now, let’s run with it and use it to our advantage.

And let’s not shoot the messenger prematurely.

I do respect the righteous rant!

[NurseJackie]

121. A well-reasoned and thoughtful answer and analysis.

Thank you. It's nice to see that instead of continual hand-wringing and overwrought hair-on-fire-O-M-G rants that one typically encounters on the internet.

[Kaleva]

39. This news will convince Biden supporters to vote for Biden & Trump supporters to vote for Trump

[yaesu]

41. its all about the mean green. nt

[Me.]

46. I Like The Timing Being So Close To The Election

[Silent3]

47. Would it have saved lives?

I'm not sure. The Republicans have become so adept at rationalizing everything away, I doubt this would have made any difference, and by now it would be just another ho-hum, half-forgotten Trump scandal among far too many.

These revelations will probably have more impact now, closer to the election, before they sink into the memory hole.

[Texin]

48. I'm totally with you on this maxrandb.

I am sitting here and shaking my head that a so-called journalist kept silent about this. I actually had seen videos coming out of China via Twitter at the end of December and moving into January, so it doesn't surprise me that there was a brewing knowledge about this virus threat and how lethal it could be. But to actually hear that tRump had been apprised about it evidently earlier than February 7 and misled Americans (those not up on this virus threat at least) about its severity and how much of a raging contagion it is, is absolutely enraging. It's always been about "window dressing" for him. He ought to be dragged out of the WH by his outrageous orange monstrosity of a head and strung upside down Mussolini-style on the south lawn to be bird fodder and target practice for raging mobs.

[KS Toronado]

55. Target practice.....with BB guns only

[maxrandb]

79. Not to mention... he's STILL misleading America

[aquamarina]

49. I totally agree.

He should have made this info public ASAP. He single-handedly could have saved thousands of lives by forcing this information into the public arena. This reveal is shocking on so many levels.

[Efilroft Sul]

84. I'm furious. My wife lost her aunt to COVID-19. This revelation could have saved her and others.

[KS Toronado]

50. The reason rumpie didn't warn the public about the coronavirus is fairly simple.....

he and his cronies were to busy figuring out how to make money off of this pandemic.
It's why he talks like it's under control, open schools, wearing masks don't help, etc.
Appears he's doing everything to keep the virus alive and well, to enrich himself.

[Celerity]

54. I also think he was under orders from Moscow to stand down and

deny it all.

[KS Toronado]

93. Good point, tRump is to stupid to see Putin destroying America w/o firing a shot.

[King_Klonopin]

119. Don't forget that He and Jared were rooting for people in blue states to DIE !! n/t

[PaulRevere08]

51. The only thing tRump didn't want to panic was the stock market. The sociopath couldn't care less

about the average citizen in this country.

[Stardust]

112. THIS!!!

[octoberlib]

58. The only one to blame for this is Trump. Period.

Woodward coming out with these tapes would have made zero difference. The information was being reported in other media sources and by scientists.

[mindfulNJ]

59. TOTALLY agree

FUCK HIM.

GREEDY BASTARD.

[guyfromla]

62. And don't forget the Nobel Committee

What were they thinking bumping up the ego of this ego-maniac??

[tblue37]

78. Some right-wing Swedish legislator nominated him, not the Nobel committee, and of course he

won't get it. Remember, Abe of Japan nominated him last year.

[LaMouffette]

63. Well put!

This information would probably not have had the same impact that it's having today if he had publicized it early on, like in March. Many people, especially Trump supporters, still would have been unimpressed by the virus as long as Trump was publicly downplaying it.

But If Woodward had come out with this information and the audiotapes in June or July when places like New York were being hardest hit, maybe he could have had an impact and saved tens of thousands of lives.

[maxrandb]

81. Or, maybe a good time would have been

while the Retrumplican Senate was exonerating the fuckstick

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

69. "...and his asspickle enablers and defenders need to be fucking removed from society"...

... I said that 20 years ago. eom.

[djacq]

72. Nothing New... Compounds the Truth.

I agree that Bob Woodward should have spoken up immediately. We also know that every time that Trump opens his mouth, he lies.

Having said that, more and more damaging news about Trump will keep coming until Election Day.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

73. Bob did the right thing for the wrong reasons

Selling books at the expense of american lives.

People matter more Bob get that through your thin skull !!!!!!

[live love laugh]

74. I hope you feel better after that rant because I sure do

[pnwmom]

75. I'm not sure it would have made a difference back then. Saying it was "deadly"

doesn't mean it would kill 2 or 3 hundred thousand people before the election. Trump supporters would have found some reason not to believe Trump meant anything particularly bad.

But NOW we do know how many people have died. And the election is imminent. This revelation now may be more impactful, possibly.

[llmart]

76. Love your rants.

They speak to the anger and frustration I've felt since this orange asshole stole the election and he and his grifting family looted our treasury. Now he's been shown to have killed almost 200,000 citizens. Your righteous anger shows you are paying attention.

[benld74]

77. Woodward still in '70's with his thinking

[DSandra]

82. GWB led to at least 7500 deaths, Trump now at least most of 200,000

Not counting future deaths from heart failure from the permenant heart damage caused by the virus in many.

Nixon interrupted peace talks in Vietnam which could have saved 30,000 American soldier lives. Reagan didn’t take AIDS seriously early on, leading to 100,000 deaths by 1990. Anyone see a pattern?

[Efilroft Sul]

83. Ever since Woodward "interviewed" a lobotomized Bill Casey in "Veil," he's been questionable.

Casey, on his deathbed, supposedly told Woodward that he ordered questionable covert operations because, "I believed…I believed."

"Then he was asleep," Woodward writes, "and I didn’t get to ask another question."

[alfredo]

85. We all knew he didn't want to respond to the virus because of the

potential damage it could do to him. It is all about him.

Afraid we’d panic? If he had visited a grocery after the plague hit, you’d know we were panicking. His lies only made us less confident. Before long we all understood that we were all on our own. Our government has failed us.

[SeattleVet]

86. "He didn't want to cause a panic"...

I just went over and checked, and that is EXACTLY how they are justifying this crap over in freeperville.

Fuck 'em.

[The_REAL_Ecumenist]

87. the OrangeASS, his Maladministration, (ALL OF THEM), the Republican members of the Congress AND...

SENATE, (NOT Romney & anyone else who REFUSED to convict and remove the asshole) need to be tried for CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY at the WORLD COURT!! The first time I read about them placing sanctions against the WORLD COURT, I thought, they have an idea of what's coming and is trying to defang them....

[Mickju]

88. I agree with everything you are saying in this post.

Trump is guilty of murder.

[gordianot]

90. Unfortunately this may be a news story for maybe 10 days.

Even though the death count is spectacular.

[BannonsLiver]

100. That would be perfect actually

Given that 10 days is almost 1/5 of the time left before the election. I’ll take Trump playing defense for 10 days at this stage of the race 7 days a week and twice on Sundays.

[uponit7771]

91. K&R, ... and they ***STILL*** caused a fuckin panic !!!

[maxrandb]

101. Right! And the guy who "doesn't want to cause a panic"

is busy trying to scare the ever-loving-shit out of suburbia that scary black men and MS13 are coming to rape and kill your daughters.

The guy who "doesn't want to cause a panic" is doing everything he can to have incel dipshits with AR15s drive their ISIS pickup trucks into cities to kill some Democrats.

Is there really anyone in America with a functioning brain cell that believe he "didn't want to cause a panic"?

Some of these fuckers need to go to fucking jail for the rest of their miserable lives.

Except for Steven Miller. He needs to be dropped naked into the middle of Kandahar Province with just a MAGA hat and Breitbart cartoons of Mohammed.

[uponit7771]

103. "Some of these fuckers need to go to fucking jail for the rest of their miserable lives." 👈🏾THIS !

[Roy Rolling]

95. Settle down, Beavis

The alternative you suggest—Woodward write a story that the president is a hypocrite—would be useless.

In a perfect world, Woodward releases off-the-record recordings when it matters most. Now.

Sadly, a revelation of Trump’s neglect is more powerful with 190,000 dead than 30,000.

But Woodward revealing that Trump knew what medical professionals knew about lethality wouldn’t have reduced the number of deaths. Epidemiologists knew the seriousness, only Trump supporters didn’t.

And they needed a haircut and didn’t care.

[Goodheart]

97. Agree.

[SmartVoter22]

102. It's called a book deal.

When one enters a book contract, usually before it's written, there are levels of confidentiality made to not release information that could reduce the book's marketing potential.

If you were writing a book on Trump, and had 18 hours of recordings of Trump making statements, would you sacrifice your book contract? Risk a definate legal suit, for breeching the contract!
...And if you were as well known as, say a Bob Woodward, who could get a couple of million in an advance on that book, would you risk the finacial security of your and your family becuase you think the content should be 'public record'?
How releasing these audio tapes earlier, would have changed anything Trump would have done is a real strtch of the imagination.

I think you are showing a very extreme emotional reaction to this breaking news, before you actually though the process through.

It's ok, you will change you mind, once you have time to think about the restrictions Woodward is probably under, with a book contract.
Because that is all this is. A book.

[TexasBushwhacker]

108. Woodward is 77 and worth $15 Million

How many additional lives were lost because he kept this secret for SIX MONTHS? How many lives lost is his family's "security" worth?

[intheflow]

128. It wouldn't have mattered.

Many, MANY people were and have been speaking the truth about the pandemic right along, and right along 45's followers have discredited and dismissed science and common sense. Woodward is just another voice. I mean, it's not like we didn't know 45 was lying in February and March.

[druidity33]

110. He's a "journalist"...

I'll let Charlie Pierce speak for me:

"Let us be clear. Both of these men knew before anyone else that the president* was lying in public about the most serious public health crisis in a century. Both of these men knew before anyone else how serious that threat was, and how deadly the disease could be. Both of these men knew before anyone else that a potential disaster was not only possible, but increasingly likely. BOTH OF THESE MEN KNEW! The president* knew and lied because he wanted to get re-elected. Woodward knew and kept it to himself because he had a book to sell. Who’s worse? Far too measured a choice for this reporter, but, as someone who in his own small way practices the same craft as Bob Woodward, I have to wonder how Woodward watched the president* lie for six months as the body count ratcheted skyward without his conscience tearing out his heart. I have to wonder if, in some small way, journalism as public service died as collateral damage in that struggle."

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a33969935/bob-woodward-trump-covid-19/

[SmartVoter22]

123. There would be more than 2 who knew

The West Wing would have had many people who knew about CoVid's dangerous threat. I doubt if only two, trump & Woodward would be the only two who were informed.

Trying to find a scapegoat, is what this thread is about, and using the Trump blame someone approach, seems to sway some in DU.
But I prefer to be a realist and try to understand that, in government, information, even secret infomation, is known amongst many people.

Whether that info can or should be distributed, is an entirely different question that is not asked in this thread.

[jimlup]

107. I rec'ed and understand your sentiment but ...

I think the timing is perfect. We have to make sure this Orange begins to go away the night of November 3rd and is shown the door to the jail cell after that.

I hate to say it but the American voters have a short memory.

[warmfeet]

109. I am not a woodward appoligist.

Fuck him!

Many 10's of thousands are likely dead do to his greed.

100's of thousands have permanent disability do to his greed.

You are godamn right, fuck him and his greed.

I will not apologize for abject greed.

the orange mango shithole is another matter all together.

Fuck these greedy motherfuckers!

[NoRoadUntravelled]

111. Yet another person acquainted with Trump gets to profit from holding out on news

that could have made a difference to the American people had it been shared before it was too late. Woodward's sin of omission may have contributed to the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans, helped tank the economy and contributed to the hunger and homelessness that families are now experiencing. And now he's got a book ready to become a best seller where he'll review the dastardly deeds of this administration. Far too late to make a difference to anything except his bank account.

Isn't it interesting how being in proximity to Trump creates the risk of tainting even the good guys?

[Ilsa]

115. The problem is that this makes Woodward the center of the story, not Trump.

The story needs to be about Trump's lack of leadership and abdication of duty. Woodward is not elected to anything, and many people wouldn't listen to him, but they would Trump.

[Dopers_Greed]

118. This entire thing is on Trump and the Repugs

The RW is going to come out attacking Woodward to take the attention off the Orange Anus. Don't help them out.

[MFM008]

120. I will read

A bootleg copy online if i can find one
but i will not buy it.
Not one penny.

[stillrockin67]

122. Timing!

We should thank Woodward for waiting. Americans have such a short memory. Delivering news of Trump's sins two months ago would have have blunted the impact. Timing, timing, timing!

[JoeDuck]

124. You and Fox agree.

Fox News suggested we should blame the author and not the president.

[40RatRod]

125. I consider it a great September surprise and ...

... was timed on purpose and believe Woodward intends to continue to release tapes periodically to destroy Donnie.

[turbinetree]

129. Negligent homicide......................and they are trying to normalize it..................

You hit it right on the head..............

[Laura PourMeADrink]

130. Along with everyone else Who Knew Too.

[AlexSFCA]

131. it's called money. His book has no value to the public, it would have months ago.

[AlexSFCA]

132. it's called money. His book has no value to the public, it would have months ago.

trump destroys everything and everyone he touches; everyone who is trying to make money on him also turn to shit.

[bucolic_frolic]

133. Woodward collected all the evidence. He would have been dismissed as a crank before now

Going public with his tapes would have ended the interviews, and all the contradictions across time.

Helping to topple 2 Republican presidents, across almost 50 years, is quite a feat!

[DallasNE]

134. The Stock Market Panicked Anyway

And I'm sure that happened before Woodward was given this particular news. Indeed, if Woodward didn't find this out until weeks after Trump was briefed it would had he been too late to do much good. Besides, there were a lot of people in government that knew this in a timely enough manner that whistleblowers could have saved thousands of lives. I would redirect at those individuals rather than Woodward.

[Locrian]

135. it's aready being used by trump (woodwards timing)

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