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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Trump's reelection campaign on the verge of collapsing?
There is a lot of news swirling around the past few days that makes me wonder if Trumps reelection campaign is about to totally collapse. There is news that his campaign is nearly bankrupt due to stupid investments and I would imagine, embezzlement from pretty much everyone involved. He has pulled all ads from pretty much every state he needs to win, likely again because his campaign is completely broke. Bob Woodward and The Washington Post have recordings of Trump from early February talking about how bad coronavirus would get but he chose to lie to the public about the seriousness of it. Of course we are getting more and more reports of Trump shit talking the military both in private and in public. National polls and state polls today appear to be moving aggressively in Bidens direction. And there was that report from a few months ago that Senate Republicans were getting frustrated with Trump dragging their campaigns down and that they would start to abandon him after Labor Day if polls didnt improve. Not sure if we are seeing that yet but we are past Labor Day and Trumps polling numbers are as shitty as ever.
Not to celebrate too early or to let our guard down but I do wonder if Trumps entire campaign has reached the point where it is essentially imploded and that his odds of winning are close to nonexistent.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)with superpacs
hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)Don't believe so for a second. We face a foe who will stop at nothing.
Botany
(70,489 posts)And then along came Russia.
LiberalLoner
(9,761 posts)Botany
(70,489 posts)... central tabulators) in 2016. And it wasn't just the Presidential race either. Russ Feingold was @ a > 90 %
chance of winning back his senate seat.
Putin did not spend all that money and time to "just look around."
Russia, Trump, Hannity, Bill Barr, McConnell, and so on will stop at nothing to keep this from being an
open and honest election this year.
qwlauren35
(6,147 posts)We have to play it as if it's going ahead up until November 4th.
We cannot rest, we cannot let up. We must press on.
If the down-ballot candidates peel off, then we might not get the Senate and Congress we need. All the more reason to push ahead.
I would like to see Biden campaign in Kentucky for Amy McGrath, in South Carolina for Jaime Harrison, in Maine for Sara Gideon, not just in the swing states. We NEED our Senate to flip.
BComplex
(8,035 posts)Claustrum
(4,845 posts)I remember Trump pulling out of WI and other battleground states in 2016 and he still "won".
Not to mention, he might just be re-accessing his ads. It's just way too early to tell. My mind will stay as we aren't winning until Biden is declared the winner after Nov. 3rd. Until then, everything else is noise.
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)As if nothing is different about this cycle vs that one. Its reached LOL proportions.
Dr. Jack
(675 posts)At no point in 2016, did I think Trump was out of the running. I hoped he would lose but he still very much felt like he could win. 2020 just doesnt feel like that. 2016 almost feels like a mythical election when really it was a pretty typical toss up race and for some reason, people are significantly over correcting to the point where Trump being down nationally by potentially double digits is seen as a race that is too close to call. I get being cautious and not taking anything for granted but some people are going overboard with the polls dont matter, remember 2016!.
calguy
(5,305 posts)The think and act accordingly.
Otherwise, after the election. instead of studying how the trump campaign totally collapsed, we might be wondering how the mofo pulled off another upset.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)Money crunch maybe but they aren't going to collapse. It will be a long hard fight all the way to election day. Actually with the inevitable legal challenges a long hard fight well past election day.
Also don't forget about PAC money.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)The campaign squandered a ton of money but he'll get more, by hook or by crook (probably crook). A lot of shit is hitting the fan but Trump is used to being covered in shit; he actually likes it.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)In a sane world, Trump would have already resigned, but it appears that a significant percentage of the American electorate is not sane. We know that the President isnt sane, so I expect him to drag this out to the bitter end.
-Laelth
sarisataka
(18,598 posts)He will be defeated in a 50 state sweep, plus DC, we will get a super majority in both the House and Senate, he will then fly AF1 to Moscow and resign because he never wanted to be President in the first place.
Did I miss any of the usual fantasy predictions?
0rganism
(23,940 posts)the less stable their campaign gets, the more i think Trump isn't planning on winning a fair election anyway.
LiberalLoner
(9,761 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)All Biden/someone has to do is simply point out the mess in trump's own campaign, the scamming and thieving going on in trump's own orbit by his own cronies, his gross incompetence in running his own election campaign, etc., to highlight trump's capabilities to do anything competent (which is zero in my mind).
His administration has done a big fat zero except cut taxes for the wealthiest in this Country (and of course no one else), and has zero accomplishments, has no long term planning except slash and burn, and governing by 'tweet' dozens of times, sometimes hundreds of times a day.
trump is an absolute worthless zero.
Even the Russians etc. can't do enough (online or other wise) to redirect voter anger away from trump's incompetent ranting and raving (seems like this is all he does, a typical 'bully' tactic), to hide his criminal ineptitude on all fronts.
irisblue
(32,967 posts)ihas2stinkyfeet
(1,400 posts)Initech
(100,063 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)when he started his re-election campaign. I don't think a day has gone by when he wasn't going down for one thing or another. And here we are.
procon
(15,805 posts)of repairs to the Rose Garden and the South Lawn area following the RNC convention. He can't have that done on the cheap because it's a treasured national heritage site under the US Park Service. Rules and standards will be under the watchful eyes of dedicated White House historians and inspectors to see that everything is up to par.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Andvwhere did all that money go?
tanyev
(42,550 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)is coming off the rails and they can't prop him up (or drug him up enough) any longer.