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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmerica cannot be made right until FOXNews is made right.
All one needed to do was to turn over to FOXNews to see that there are only two sides to each story - the "Fake News" side and the FoxNews side. People that watch FOXNews do not bother with the "fake news" channels.
Everyone we know was talking about the new Bob Woodward book about Donald Trump. They had the audio straight from the horse's mouth. It left little doubt about what Donald Trump had done to help our country through this "deadly virus". He didn't just "downplay" it, he ridiculed and minimized it and called it a Democratic "hoax".
Yet, if you turned over to FOXNews, you would have seen Bret Baer, one of the so-called "moderates" on FOXNews, mock and ridicule Joe Biden. He led off with Peter Doocy and Doocy pointed out a mistake Joe Biden had made today about the number of military deaths that he mentioned in his speech. It was all about Biden and nothing about Trump or the COVID-19.
Those that were watching FOXNews saw a different reality than the rest of us. They do not waste their time with "fake news" channels. They have been programmed to trust only one source, and that is the one that echoes Donald Trump.
Until FOXNews feels the need to tell people what is happening to their country, rather than what is happening to their cult Leader, then even with today's news, there will be little progress going forward.
pandr32
(11,548 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,006 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)Until there is no active propaganda network blaring lies and misdirection at their audience 24/7/365, there is no hope of making them right. And with OANN in the wings already, even if Fox is gone, the gang of deplorables will simply move on...
I think you are right. But hopefully, they will not have the audience they now enjoy.
Funtatlaguy
(10,862 posts)Chainfire
(17,458 posts)But I think that is a tad Un-American to wish to silence them. The better tact would be to try to educate their viewers to learn the difference in propaganda and news. Fox gives their viewers what they want to hear, and calls it news.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)I will go without MSNBC just to have the absence of Faux News.
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)tblue37
(65,215 posts)uponit7771
(90,301 posts)moonscape
(4,672 posts)SmartVoter22
(639 posts)FoxNews must get a license to broadcast, every year and you can complain to the FCC, every year, as to why you think that network is not acting in the public interest. Just Google 'FCC network license complaint'.
Now, you do understand that FoxNews, is not a news agency.
It is legally defined as; a subscription entertainment service.
Like, ESPN, Nickleodeon and the Hallmark Channel.
It could be 100% scripted like a sitcom, but is under no obligation to provide you with anything about it's 'creative license' as a subscription entertainment service.
Real news, protected under the US Constitution, is printed news, like every newspaper and over the air free broadcast; ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS.
ANy statement of fact, also know in English as a declarative, must have two credible and expert sources that have validated the fact before it can be published. This law was created to protect everyone from slander and libel my legitimate news media.
Do you ever wonder why, what you hear and see on FoxNews, is NEVER seen or heard on the legitimate news reporting networks?
kentuck
(111,051 posts)Although I think a letter to the FCC might have more influence if it was sent as a group.
(on edit) We have the right to request truth in advertising. I recall when they first began, they had no investigative reporters. They simply editorialized from their studios. They wanted eye candy. They have never been a legitimate "news" source, in my opinion.
crickets
(25,951 posts)Seems like putting it in the name is lie number one.
They have never been News, as people understand "news" to be.
SmartVoter22
(639 posts)and require any information service, free or paid, to make sure that when an opinion is being posted, printed, broadcast or transmitted; that a ticker or other obvious flashing notice be shown..stating that this is an opinion, not validated factual information.
FoxNews blurred that line, which Americans have always trusted as the protected first amendment requirements for a free press.
We can and should pressure Congress to re-define that protection, especially, after the Citizens United decision, which made companies people too, but did not hold them to the same restrictions that individuals, free broadcast and printed news sources must comply with.
Cancel culture works in this situation, but we also need to overwhelm the FCC with complaints, for the misinformation these pseudo-news services are causing, creating and distributing.
This is my opinion....It's our information and we must protect it from the one thing FoxNews has done.
Monetize the 1st amendment, regardless of 'truthiness' of whatever nonsense definition the right wing wants to call it.
Distributing false information should be a criminal offense, and when charged with such a crime, that 'news' entity should be suspended from broadcasting or distributing, any information until the legal case is resolved. But these cases must be expedited to the US federal courts.
If guilty, the board is removed and replaced with a temporary board, of experts to change that companies behavior into compliance.
crickets
(25,951 posts)It's a shame it's gone this far, but if making laws about truth in news broadcasts is what it takes to muzzle the likes of Fox OANN, or at least call them out and make them own the lies for what they are, I'm all for the legislation to do it. Part of the problem is that because Fox is a cable channel not using public airwaves, it is not regulated by the FCC. Attempts to push back on their disinformation also run up against First Amendment protections of free speech. It's a frustrating situation that desperately needs to be dealt with.
I'm not the biggest Snopes fan, but they have a pretty good rundown on the situation here:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-news-entertainment-switch/
The reactions to this article (which include discussion of the Fairness Doctrine) are also illuminating:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/17/1938298/-Can-the-FCC-revoke-Fox-News-License
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)When Trump is run out of office
Blue Owl
(50,238 posts)They are poison...
just abolish FOX noise, tRump and his cult heads will probably explode.