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kentuck

(111,051 posts)
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:57 PM Sep 2020

America cannot be made right until FOXNews is made right.

All one needed to do was to turn over to FOXNews to see that there are only two sides to each story - the "Fake News" side and the FoxNews side. People that watch FOXNews do not bother with the "fake news" channels.

Everyone we know was talking about the new Bob Woodward book about Donald Trump. They had the audio straight from the horse's mouth. It left little doubt about what Donald Trump had done to help our country through this "deadly virus". He didn't just "downplay" it, he ridiculed and minimized it and called it a Democratic "hoax".

Yet, if you turned over to FOXNews, you would have seen Bret Baer, one of the so-called "moderates" on FOXNews, mock and ridicule Joe Biden. He led off with Peter Doocy and Doocy pointed out a mistake Joe Biden had made today about the number of military deaths that he mentioned in his speech. It was all about Biden and nothing about Trump or the COVID-19.

Those that were watching FOXNews saw a different reality than the rest of us. They do not waste their time with "fake news" channels. They have been programmed to trust only one source, and that is the one that echoes Donald Trump.

Until FOXNews feels the need to tell people what is happening to their country, rather than what is happening to their cult Leader, then even with today's news, there will be little progress going forward.

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America cannot be made right until FOXNews is made right. (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2020 OP
I couldn't agree more pandr32 Sep 2020 #1
AM Hate Radio plays a huge part too, all day long NRaleighLiberal Sep 2020 #2
They can't be made right...they must be made gone. Moostache Sep 2020 #3
Yep. kentuck Sep 2020 #4
This. They have finished what hate radio started. Filth propaganda. Funtatlaguy Sep 2020 #5
I don't watch them ever Chainfire Sep 2020 #6
My Dish package has no Faux News. roamer65 Sep 2020 #7
K&R Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #8
Right wing radio, too. nt tblue37 Sep 2020 #9
**** THANK YOU !!! **** Right wing media outlets are too tide into republican party right now. uponit7771 Sep 2020 #10
And Sinclair local stations n/t moonscape Sep 2020 #11
Complain to the FCC. SmartVoter22 Sep 2020 #12
Excellent points! kentuck Sep 2020 #13
It would help if Fox News was not allowed to call itself 'news.' crickets Sep 2020 #16
Agree. kentuck Sep 2020 #18
Congress can protect the word 'news' SmartVoter22 Sep 2020 #19
I absolutely agree with your line of thinking. crickets Sep 2020 #20
That should be "...until Fox News is made EXTINCT." regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #14
FAUX will have competition from Trump TV redstateblues Sep 2020 #15
Until FOX News is struck from the airwaves Blue Owl Sep 2020 #17
Or bdamomma Sep 2020 #21

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
3. They can't be made right...they must be made gone.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:00 PM
Sep 2020

Until there is no active propaganda network blaring lies and misdirection at their audience 24/7/365, there is no hope of making them right. And with OANN in the wings already, even if Fox is gone, the gang of deplorables will simply move on...

Chainfire

(17,458 posts)
6. I don't watch them ever
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:06 PM
Sep 2020

But I think that is a tad Un-American to wish to silence them. The better tact would be to try to educate their viewers to learn the difference in propaganda and news. Fox gives their viewers what they want to hear, and calls it news.

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
12. Complain to the FCC.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:15 PM
Sep 2020

FoxNews must get a license to broadcast, every year and you can complain to the FCC, every year, as to why you think that network is not acting in the public interest. Just Google 'FCC network license complaint'.

Now, you do understand that FoxNews, is not a news agency.
It is legally defined as; a subscription entertainment service.
Like, ESPN, Nickleodeon and the Hallmark Channel.

It could be 100% scripted like a sitcom, but is under no obligation to provide you with anything about it's 'creative license' as a subscription entertainment service.

Real news, protected under the US Constitution, is printed news, like every newspaper and over the air free broadcast; ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS.
ANy statement of fact, also know in English as a declarative, must have two credible and expert sources that have validated the fact before it can be published. This law was created to protect everyone from slander and libel my legitimate news media.

Do you ever wonder why, what you hear and see on FoxNews, is NEVER seen or heard on the legitimate news reporting networks?

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
13. Excellent points!
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:21 PM
Sep 2020

Although I think a letter to the FCC might have more influence if it was sent as a group.


(on edit) We have the right to request truth in advertising. I recall when they first began, they had no investigative reporters. They simply editorialized from their studios. They wanted eye candy. They have never been a legitimate "news" source, in my opinion.

crickets

(25,951 posts)
16. It would help if Fox News was not allowed to call itself 'news.'
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 08:14 PM
Sep 2020

Seems like putting it in the name is lie number one.

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
19. Congress can protect the word 'news'
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:32 AM
Sep 2020

and require any information service, free or paid, to make sure that when an opinion is being posted, printed, broadcast or transmitted; that a ticker or other obvious flashing notice be shown..stating that this is an opinion, not validated factual information.
FoxNews blurred that line, which Americans have always trusted as the protected first amendment requirements for a free press.

We can and should pressure Congress to re-define that protection, especially, after the Citizens United decision, which made companies people too, but did not hold them to the same restrictions that individuals, free broadcast and printed news sources must comply with.

Cancel culture works in this situation, but we also need to overwhelm the FCC with complaints, for the misinformation these pseudo-news services are causing, creating and distributing.

This is my opinion....It's our information and we must protect it from the one thing FoxNews has done.
Monetize the 1st amendment, regardless of 'truthiness' of whatever nonsense definition the right wing wants to call it.

Distributing false information should be a criminal offense, and when charged with such a crime, that 'news' entity should be suspended from broadcasting or distributing, any information until the legal case is resolved. But these cases must be expedited to the US federal courts.
If guilty, the board is removed and replaced with a temporary board, of experts to change that companies behavior into compliance.

crickets

(25,951 posts)
20. I absolutely agree with your line of thinking.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:14 PM
Sep 2020

It's a shame it's gone this far, but if making laws about truth in news broadcasts is what it takes to muzzle the likes of Fox OANN, or at least call them out and make them own the lies for what they are, I'm all for the legislation to do it. Part of the problem is that because Fox is a cable channel not using public airwaves, it is not regulated by the FCC. Attempts to push back on their disinformation also run up against First Amendment protections of free speech. It's a frustrating situation that desperately needs to be dealt with.

I'm not the biggest Snopes fan, but they have a pretty good rundown on the situation here:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-news-entertainment-switch/

The reactions to this article (which include discussion of the Fairness Doctrine) are also illuminating:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/17/1938298/-Can-the-FCC-revoke-Fox-News-License

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