He told Woodward it was a deadly plague, he told us it was a hoax. That's

[Raven]

it in a nutshell. End of discussion.

[malaise]

1. No not the end at all - as Berstein said yesterday

this is presidential felony

[Raven]

2. I completely agree but, with my low information voting friends who

are just realizing that there is an election coming up, that's all that needs to be said. He knew and he not only lied about it, he called it a hoax. He didn't just downplay it, he called it fake news. And he insisted that we put our children out there on the front lines. I don't want to fall into the trap of getting into a discussion of Trump's perverted notion of "leadership". I want to look my low information friend in the eye and say "Because you believed him, you put yourself at risk, you put your elderly parents at risk and you put your kids at risk. He lied and people died and it's only luck and the grace of God that you're not one of them."

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

[lark]

3. Not just lies, but murderous lies that have caused tens of thousands to die.

He should lose everything and spend his life in jail as a lesson to R-traitors - that would be at least some justice for all of the dead.