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no_hypocrisy

(46,104 posts)
1. THAT is what I wish Trump had said on tape to Woodward.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:00 AM
Sep 2020

Although, the MAGAts who literally keep Trump propped up would still support him. He represents their black hearts and gives them their validation.

Chainfire

(17,538 posts)
11. On tape, on video, it wouldn't matter to the cult
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:44 AM
Sep 2020

You should read the lame azz excuses on the conservative sites about Trump admitting that he lied about the danger of the Virus early on. Conservatives have more excuses for Trump than Carter's has liver pills.
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For those too young to remember, Ted Mack's Original Amateur Hour :

Carter's Little Liver Pills predated the other available forms of bisacodyl and was a very popular and heavily advertised patent medicine up until the 1960s, spawning a common saying (with variants) in the first half of the 20th century: "He/She has more _________ than Carter has Little Liver Pills".


no_hypocrisy

(46,104 posts)
12. I agree with you on your point.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 09:23 AM
Sep 2020

Case in point: I was in Germany in 1979. A friend took me to a private Jaeger Party (Royal Huntsmen) in the middle of the woods. There they drank beer, ate roasted meat, and sang Hitler Fight Songs. With vigor. And not only are there surviving German/Nazi sympathizers, their children, and grandchildren still regard the days of the Third Reich wistfully. The Good Ole Days. If they haven't left Hitler after more than seven decades, we can expect something similar with MAGAts.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. From the article:
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:02 AM
Sep 2020
“The cosmic joke was that Trump convinced a vast swathe of working-class white folks in the Midwest that he cared about their well-being,” Cohen writes. “The truth was that he couldn’t care less.”


From Cohen's book.

Eugene

(61,894 posts)
4. It doesn't matter to their leaders if he cares. It matters if he is useful in gaining power.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:12 AM
Sep 2020

Trump is an Antichrist, but if it serves a "greater good," they are fine with it. Just throw some occasional red meat to the flock and most of them will stay in line.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
5. The thing is they wouldn't care.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:12 AM
Sep 2020

He could go on TV and say I think Christians and evangelicals are losers and suckers and they’d just agree with him.

They are a cult and nothing will snap them out of it.

They have to be DEPROGRAMMED

Systematically deprogrammed

The first step is to turn off rush Limburger and Fox News

JI7

(89,249 posts)
6. Trump supporters are mainly racists. The religious stuff was mainly cover for their
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:15 AM
Sep 2020

white supremacy .

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
7. People still get evangelicals wrong
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:21 AM
Sep 2020

They don't worship Trump despite his character, they worship him because of his character.

They love the fact that he's an old testament authoritarian figure who's cruel and brutal to the weak. And above all they absolutely love the way he treats women as sex objects and property. They even love the idea that he's cheated on his wife and raped several women, even children. He's the biblical version of the man they they most strive for. I suspect they even like that he sexualizes his own daughter.

Their warped version of their religion is similar to Muslim extremism, they believe that men are alphas and women are second class citizens, and they believe that women deserve to be raped and abused if they leave the house and choose to work or dress un-modestly.

Trump is the Christian ideal for them, he's what all the evangelical men wish they could all be, and he's what all the evangelical women think is a strong man who crushes the weak before him and punishes women by violence and sexual assault.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
8. yep it's not the bug it's the feature
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:39 AM
Sep 2020

As for sexualizing his daughter, not much of a stretch:

Genesis 19:30–38 Lot's daughters got their father drunk, and over two consecutive nights had sex with him without his knowledge. They both got pregnant.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
16. Nice, I think Evangelicals are really pagans, bowing at the altar of their demi-god Trump-Baal
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 12:23 PM
Sep 2020

Drb2072

(16 posts)
10. Focus
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:42 AM
Sep 2020

I know its hard, but I think we all need to focus on one thing. The Woodward book is it. Don't dilute the Woodward book with a bunch of other allegations (that are almost certainly true).

Just stick with Woodward book, and keep pounding it. Plenty of content there to last 53 days.

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
13. I have relatives who think Trump is a wonderful Christian.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 09:32 AM
Sep 2020

They could never imagine him being anything else.

634-5789

(4,175 posts)
14. Me too.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 11:24 AM
Sep 2020

A nephew (43) in particular. I asked him if he thought Jesus would grab women by the genitals, cage children, rape 13 YOs, and he said...in true dumb fuck MAGAt fashion that none of that happened, all fake news. You can't fix that level of stupidity.

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