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MenloParque

(512 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:52 PM Sep 2020

Netflix "Cuties"

I know we are more progressive over here at DU...what are your thoughts on this flick on Netflix? I haven’t seen the film, nor have any intention of seeing it- so I won’t just check it out for myself. I do know some of you have have seen this French release, so what are your thoughts?? I’ve seen Twitter posts calling for a Netflix boycott until the film is removed. Coming of age story or just a big Conservative overreaction?

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Netflix "Cuties" (Original Post) MenloParque Sep 2020 OP
Why don't you see it if you're so interested? Renew Deal Sep 2020 #1
Precisely Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #5
Not interested MenloParque Sep 2020 #9
I'll remember that Hekate Sep 2020 #12
There is nothing wrong with expanding your interests. Renew Deal Sep 2020 #16
Review? MenloParque Sep 2020 #19
Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #20
Sorry, I thought this was a discussion board MenloParque Sep 2020 #22
Your question has been answered more than once. MineralMan Sep 2020 #25
Really, conservative outrage only makes me want to see a movie more. Initech Sep 2020 #2
It looks like about 90 percent of Netflix original programming BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #3
It isn't a Netflix original obamanut2012 Sep 2020 #17
That's fine. It still looks awful. BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #27
It's a movie. Period. Every movie out there probably has some who wish to ban that movie SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #4
Looks *major-league* pervy Dennis Donovan Sep 2020 #6
Had to look this up, but I agree Amishman Sep 2020 #26
It worries me that sexualizing kids is OhZone Sep 2020 #7
I plan to see it soon. The review in the LA Times by Justin Chang was thoughtful yet passionate Hekate Sep 2020 #8
Oops. I was hoping to be the first reply, because the LA Times reviewer dinged Netflix pretty hard Hekate Sep 2020 #10
I have to wonder...how many of the people complaining about it have seen it? bbernardini Sep 2020 #11
From Wikipedia: sl8 Sep 2020 #13
Trump let 200,000 Americans die, and the right are outraged (about a fricking movie). Doodley Sep 2020 #14
The poster alone made me side-eye the entire thing. roman88 Sep 2020 #15
The film is not exploitive, the Netflix marketing was obamanut2012 Sep 2020 #18
As far as I know the controversy is over how Netflix promoted the movie.. aidbo Sep 2020 #21
The IMDB rating is 1.9, which will put it first place on the IMDB Bottom 100 if that rating sticks. Towlie Sep 2020 #23
Let's count/list 'controversial' movies.... Lolita... JustFiveMoreMinutes Sep 2020 #24

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
5. Precisely
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:05 PM
Sep 2020

It's just a movie on Netflix, start it, watch it, don't like it? Turn it off. All pretty simple.

MenloParque

(512 posts)
9. Not interested
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:11 PM
Sep 2020

As I said I won’t be watching. I only watch Japanese dramas, 1960’s British television, French new wave, and westerns. I won’t be watching as it doesn’t fall into my interests. Just interested in what the controversy is about surrounding the film.

MenloParque

(512 posts)
19. Review?
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:27 PM
Sep 2020

How did you like it? I won’t be seeing it as I don’t have time to watch many films with my 70 hour work weeks. Modern films are out for me.

Response to MenloParque (Reply #19)

MenloParque

(512 posts)
22. Sorry, I thought this was a discussion board
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:38 PM
Sep 2020

Wow, aren’t you a peach. Just wanted to know if the controversy is real or a conservative overreaction. I don’t have time to watch. Not asking for a film synopsis. Sorry if that bothers you.

Initech

(100,054 posts)
2. Really, conservative outrage only makes me want to see a movie more.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:56 PM
Sep 2020

If they hate it, it must be good.

BannonsLiver

(16,342 posts)
3. It looks like about 90 percent of Netflix original programming
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:58 PM
Sep 2020

Very limited appeal, low budget and uninteresting.

obamanut2012

(26,050 posts)
17. It isn't a Netflix original
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:22 PM
Sep 2020

It was produced by France 3 and BAC Films

"The film was announced by filmmaker Maïmouna Doucouné as her debut directorial venture.[5] She rose to limelight and prominence with her award-winning 2016 short film Maman(s) which was selected and premiered in over 200 film festivals and also won around 60 awards in several international film festivals.[6] Maïmouna penned the script for the film, taking her life experience as a refugee girl into account. The script eventually won Sundance's Global Filmmaking Award in 2017.[7] Doucouné says she based the film after seeing a talent show in Paris.[8] She says that the contrast of the dancing and the traditional garb of the families in the audience was a fascinating contrast."

SWBTATTReg

(22,097 posts)
4. It's a movie. Period. Every movie out there probably has some who wish to ban that movie
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:04 PM
Sep 2020

from showing, even classics such as the 'Wizard Of Oz'. No one has the right to boycott a damn thing that I may or may not watch, period. That's my right to free speech, isn't it?

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
7. It worries me that sexualizing kids is
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:08 PM
Sep 2020

mainstream on Netflix.

I have only seen some trailer clips and a lot of silly memes about it on one of my crazy FB groups, but it bothers me.

But, so does the child pageant circuit.

But I know that it's common for some cultures to push them to learn such dances early, like Brazil.

On the other hand, my brother claims I used to twerk when I was a little girl, but I don't even remember it.

Oh well.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
8. I plan to see it soon. The review in the LA Times by Justin Chang was thoughtful yet passionate
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:10 PM
Sep 2020

#1 He says the film deserves a far better distributor than one that would use the kind of ad they evidently did

He talks a lot about the “gaze” of the director (a woman) and the “gaze” of the young girls. (I’m writing from memory here). One is a Muslim girl whose aunt has been tasked with educating her so she’s marriageable in the traditional sense. This girl (Amy?) is not so sure she wants that future. In any case, she eavesdrops on her mother’s phone call by hiding under a bed while her mom is sharing the news that yes, her husband has decided to take a second wife, and isn’t that nice? What Amy cannot see is her mother’s tears as she relays this news.

In any case, I am looking forward to the film, which is complex and doesn’t fall into neat categories.

If you can locate Chang’s review, I recommend it. He writes really well.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
10. Oops. I was hoping to be the first reply, because the LA Times reviewer dinged Netflix pretty hard
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:13 PM
Sep 2020

...for marketing it as a film that callously sexualizes young girls. Read my post above for that POV.

bbernardini

(9,938 posts)
11. I have to wonder...how many of the people complaining about it have seen it?
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:14 PM
Sep 2020

I haven't seen it, nor do I intend to. But I suspect most of the right-wingers up in arms about it haven't actually watched anything beyond the trailer or the GIFs on Twitter.

sl8

(13,708 posts)
13. From Wikipedia:
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:16 PM
Sep 2020
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuties


Cuties (French: Mignonnes) is a 2020 French coming-of-age comedy-drama film written and directed by Maïmouna Doucouré in her feature directorial debut.[1] The film stars Fathia Youssouf, Médina El Aidi-Azouni, Esther Gohourou, Ilanah Cami-Goursolas and Maïmouna Gueye. The plot revolves around a traditional Senegalese Muslim girl who is caught between two contrasting sides, traditional values and Internet culture, while also discussing hypersexualization of pre-adolescent girls.[2][3]

[...]

Netflix marketing controversy

See also: Criticism of Netflix § Content issues

Prior to its release on Netflix, the film was not deemed as controversial when it was screened at Sundance or released in France.[9] After Netflix acquired Cuties, its international promotional poster and trailer for the film were criticized for allegedly sexualizing 11-year-old girls,[23][22][24][25] and were different from those used to promote the film in its original release in France. The Parents Television Council (PTC), as well as petitions garnering hundreds of thousands of signatures from Change.org, requested Netflix to remove the film entirely.[23][26] Followers of the QAnon conspiracy theory were strongly against the film as well.[9] In response, Netflix replaced the controversial poster with a new one, stating, "This was not an accurate representation of the film so the image and description has been updated."[27][28][29] American actress Tessa Thompson came out in support of the film when it was lambasted in the social media, stating that "Cuties is a beautiful film" and revealed that she felt "gutted" when she saw the film for the first time during the Sundance premiere.[30] In Turkey, the Ministry of Family asked Radio and Television Supreme Council (RTÜK) to take the necessary precautions and evaluate the film.[31] RTÜK demanded the film be removed from the Netflix catalogue.[32][33] In September 2020, Pakistani actor Hamza Ali Abbasi also signed one of the petitions and demanded Netflix to cancel the planned release of the film in the platform.[34]

In an interview with Deadline Hollywood, the director of the film, Maïmouna Doucouré, revealed that she received numerous death threats, direct messages and personal attacks following the backlash about the film on social media.[35][36] She insisted that things happened fairly quickly after delays due to the COVID-19 so that she was focusing and concentrating solely on the film's theatrical release in France and by the time she was not acknowledged about the controversial poster unveiled by Netflix.[37] She has claimed that she was notified of the film's poster controversy after being informed of the negative feedback and reviews from public in social media. She said also that the co-CEO of Netflix phoned her directly and apologised for the poster release.[38][35]

The release of the film prompted further backlash with #CancelNetflix trending on Twitter. [39][40]

Critical response

As of September 2020, the film holds an 90% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes based on 30 reviews with an average rating of 7.42 out of 10.[41] At Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 64 out of 100, based on 10 critics, indicating "Generally favorable reviews".[42]

Roger Ebert gave the film four stars stating "“Cuties” is a difficult and challenging film, pushing the idea of “depiction does not equal endorsement” to its limit."[43] In a review for IndieWire, Kate Erbland wrote, "Although Doucouré steeps Cuties in emotion and experience, she abandons its grace to make crazier gestures."[44] In a positive review, Variety said, "Newcomer Youssouf has an anchoring presence. Occasionally, Doucouré lets her light up the screen with a smile, and at the director's most expressionistic, the girl floats", though it noted that the film is aiming to get more "gasps than laughs" with its dance numbers.[45] Other reviewers noted that the film is intended to criticize "a culture that steers impressionable young girls toward the hypersexualization of their bodies" and "seems to want to provoke censure".[2][3] Clarisse Fabre of Le Monde praised the film and noted that it avoids judging the sexualized dances of the girls.[46]

Libération described the film as "endearing but too demonstrative", adding that "the film remains on the threshold of the discomfort that it intends to press each time it meets the male gaze, as if it was afraid to blame it head on".[47] According to France Info, "Mignonnes' words are a subtle reflection on the condition of women when childhood and innocence discreetly recede" and a "female cast carried by the intensity of the young Fathia Youssouf, a revelation".[48]

The plot of the film drew comparisons to films such as The Fits, a 2015 American drama film directed by Anna Rose Holmer, 2019 French-Senegalese drama film Atlantics directed by Mati Diop and Girlhood, a 2014 French drama film directed by Céline Sciamma.[49]

[...]





 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
21. As far as I know the controversy is over how Netflix promoted the movie..
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:37 PM
Sep 2020

..vs how it was promoted in France.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
23. The IMDB rating is 1.9, which will put it first place on the IMDB Bottom 100 if that rating sticks.
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:43 PM
Sep 2020

The current IMDB rating is 1.9, which will put it first place on the IMDB Bottom 100, beating out Disaster Movie, if that rating sticks. If that happens then there probably won't be any need to petition its removal.

JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
24. Let's count/list 'controversial' movies.... Lolita...
Thu Sep 10, 2020, 02:47 PM
Sep 2020

Blue Lagoon, Cruising, Hound dog, (not sure about Paper Moon)....

others???

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