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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOf These Two Items - What Would Be More Damaging To Trump?......
1. the Pee Pee Tape
Or
2. his taxes
Karadeniz
(22,513 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Claptonite vs Kleptonite
demmiblue
(36,845 posts)mucifer
(23,539 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)that kind of information has legs...while the pee-pee tape may have legs, those legs don't take you anywhere.
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)1) he is the peed upon or the pee-er?
2) is the other party to the pee fest male or female?
3) is putin peeing on trump?
Funtatlaguy
(10,870 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)much as he claims.
Unless you have all the info/data that goes into preparing the tax returns, theyll be useless, otherwise. There is no tax schedule for payments from Putin and others, money laundering, hush money, etc.
The rumor of the sex tapes is probably as damning as an actual tape. Not much.
We dont need that stuff to take him down in November.
rurallib
(62,411 posts)torius
(1,652 posts)doc03
(35,328 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,491 posts)The Cult? Nothing would damage him with them. Even if he gave his completely honest opinion of them, it wouldnt phase them.
I dont believe there are any undecided people, hes completely polarized the country. Youre either for him or youre not.
The worst part of that is, hes still got a real chance of winning again.
Thunderbeast
(3,406 posts)Both would be seen through the lens of the viewer.
The evidence will either be conclusive nails in his coffin or fake news manufactured by George Soros and the Deep State.
Nothing will change short of an election or impeachment.
Still Sensible
(2,870 posts)Which would likely show three big things. The first is that there are probably very questionable tax moves that could be seriously challenged (deductions taken, grossly overstating business costs, fraudulent classification of income, filed figures that contradict public records, etc.).
Second is the likelihood that tRump isn't the ultra-rich and successful business person he has always claimed to be... with detailed tax records, one can extrapolate his real worth based on the income he receives from his holdings. Of course, it could be simply comparing the asset values and incomes that his taxes claim compared to the no doubt exaggerated valuations that he put in front of bankers to secure loans--we already know whatever his wealth really is has come from other people's money.
And third, it would probably reveal how embarrassingly little he has paid in taxes over the years. Given all the bankruptcies, it likely there are multiple years where he paid no income taxes.
Unfortunately, unless additional information from the documents reveals shady dealings with foreign entities and the like... even if all three areas listed bear fruit, it probably won't change many minds. With any luck, though, it might provide actionable legal fodder in conjunction with or in addition to the ongoing investigations.
As for the pee pee tape, clearly his cult and maybe even some leaners won't care (unless the pissers are obviously under about 12). Video of just a couple pros providing him a golden shower would give us comic relief, but if his supporters haven't been moved by the long list of essentially proven moral transgressions of this miscreant--it won't mean shit.
In any case, piss on him and piss on his cult of imbeciles November 3!!!!!!
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)peeing on him it would matter. No one cares about his taxes anymore unless there is some criminal violation.
We need him on tape saying the n word and that would peel away some of the Black support that he somehow has. Paying for abortions would also do him in