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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLet's put things into prespective
Americans killed in Bowling Green Massacre: 0
Americans killed in Trump's Caravan Attack: 0
Americans killed By Soup Cans: 0
Americans killed by Ebola: 2
Americans killed in Benghazi: 4
Americans killed in the Spanish American: 2,246
Americans killed in War of 1812: 2,260
Americans killed in 9/11/2001 Terrorist Attacks : 2996
Americans killed in American Revolution: 4,435
Americans killed in the Mexican War: 13,283
Americans killed in Korean War: 33,746
Americans killed in Vietnam War: 58,152
Confederate Soldiers Killed on the battle field during the Civil War: 94,000
Union Soldiers Killed on the battle field during the Civil War: 110,100
Americans killed in Europe WWI: 116,516
Americans killed by Japan WWII: 160,914
Americans killed by Trump in COVID pandemic: 196,345 <--- Today you are here
Americans killed by Axis in Europe WWII: 214,362
https://ehistory.osu.edu/exhibitions/cwsurgeon/cwsurgeon/statistics
Solomon
(12,310 posts)catbyte
(34,376 posts)Glorfindel
(9,729 posts)for compiling and sharing these statistics with us.
kentuck
(111,089 posts)??
PaulRevere08
(449 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Europe vs. Japan.
kentuck
(111,089 posts)Some may have been confused by the stat.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)...which will exceed all those WWII deaths, as well as all the Civil War deaths which similarly here were split into two camps.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)There are too many stupid Trump cultists and immature college students not to reach that number. Several governors are complicit in this too.
Kitchari
(2,166 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,191 posts)years of endless hearings , years of spending millions for nothing found . twas on the repub watch when all embassy staff was cut . years of rage on right wing radio and faux noyze. in the pandemic , Americans killed by Trump in COVID pandemic: 196,345 <--- Today you are here , it is what it is and they died from underlying complicatons.
bah humbug.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Some dude threw a shoe at Dubya once.
caraher
(6,278 posts)BOTH shoes.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)He missed twice? And Bush was bright enough to duck twice? That's pathetic.
Send him down to the minors.
caraher
(6,278 posts)Bush seemed to enjoy it, actually... kind of a smile almost after the first toss
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)The throws were good. The problem was the warning screams that got Bush's attention.
(For fans of Dr. Demento} "Boot to the head!"
caraher
(6,278 posts)We're 6 months into a pandemic and the death toll is comparable to that of wars that lasted several years. On a per-day basis the Civil War was our deadliest, and the daily death toll from COVID has exceeded that daily death rate, often by a factor of 2 or more, every day since April 1 or so.
malaise
(268,967 posts)Rec
niyad
(113,283 posts)iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)AllTooEasy
(1,260 posts)The so-called "Union" soldiers flew the US flag into battle. Soldiers from the Confederate States of America flew their own national flag into battle. They later were not US soldiers. They wounded and killed US soldiers.
Otherwise, excellent post!
calimary
(81,232 posts)malthaussen
(17,193 posts)It seems fatuous to compare deaths due to the coronavirus to deaths in wars. Why not throw in deaths due to influenza, automobile accidents, and heart disease? The virus falls into that general class of disasters known as "Acts of God," whereas wars are manifestly acts of humans. That the acts of humans (or rather, their inaction) has greatly contributed to virus deaths in the US (to say nothing of the rest of the world, where the record is spotty) is clear, but no doubt thousands would have died with the best government and will in the world.
-- Mal
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Perhaps only hundreds would have died.
Trump KILLED them. HE is at War with We The People.
Great chart - On point, relevant, and factual, and did I say relevant?
Proportionate to the population of the Revolutionary times or the Civil War, those numbers might be greater.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)We should be repeating this over and over, and tweeting it.
wyocyoteee
(1 post)When someone drives a car, they are responsible for everyone in the car. So with trump in the driver's seat of the country, he is responsible. If Hilary had become president, she would be responsible and it would be called the Hilary virus whether she caused it or not.
gopiscrap
(23,758 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,601 posts)Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)The official doubling rate released by the Trump administration is a bit over 100 days. But other figures released or tallied calculate out to the doubling rate being much shorter, on the order of 30-45 days. The latter is to be expected with no real uniform, widespread, effective efforts to stop the spread. We'll be close to 400k or even half a million by election day when the above normal deaths are tallied.
treestar
(82,383 posts)there were fewer people in the US, so keep it 20th century, maybe add the 1918 flu.
Surprising how low it is for the Revolution.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)Trump has not killed 196,000 Americans. Yes he has grossly mismanaged the crisis. He lied about its severity. And more have died than necessary because of his incompetence. But the virus would have come to this country and killed some people regardless of who had been president. The virus has killed in most other countries in the world as well. He is not responsible for each and every death.