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Nevilledog

(51,101 posts)
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 12:23 PM Sep 2020

"Rudy: My Russian agent partner didn't mention he was a Russian agent, so I assumed he wasn't"





Trump’s Lawyer Working With Active Russian Agent to Smear Biden


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09/rudy-giuliani-russian-agent-derkach-trump-ukraine-biden.html

Yesterday, the Treasury Department officially labeled Andriy Derkach “an active Russian agent for over a decade, maintaining close connections with the Russian Intelligence Services.” The only person who even claims to find this remotely surprising is Rudy Giuliani, who has been working hand in glove with Derkach for months.

There is an old Simpsons episode in which Homer Simpson, watching a spy movie, blurts out, “I think that guy’s a spy!” His irritated wife whispers back, “Of course he’s a spy. You just saw him go through spy school!” This exchange is worth bearing in mind as you read Giuliani’s response to the “revelation.”


Reached by the New York Times, Giuliani pleads ignorance:

Mr. Giuliani said in an interview Thursday night that he “felt comfortable” meeting with Mr. Derkach “because there were no sanctions against him” at the time. While he acknowledged that he “didn’t do much investigation” of Mr. Derkach, Mr. Giuliani said: “I have no reason to believe he is a Russian agent. There is nothing I saw that said he was a Russian agent. There is nothing he gave me that seemed to come from Russia at all.” But he added, “How the hell would I know?”

Giuliani’s reason for not suspecting Derkach as a Russian agent is that he didn’t tell him he was a Russian agent. I am not an espionage expert, but I have watched enough spy shows to know that one of the basic practices of foreign agents is not to announce that they are foreign agents. If you have ever watched The Americans, you will notice that Phillip and Elizabeth Jennings do not go around wearing furry Russian hats and handing out KGB business cards. It’s basic tradecraft.

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"Rudy: My Russian agent partner didn't mention he was a Russian agent, so I assumed he wasn't" (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2020 OP
Rudy, caught in bed with woman not his wife. She never said she wasn't my wife. How was I to know? Solly Mack Sep 2020 #1
Well Rudy, you didnt announce that you were a Russian agent and were committing treason. bullimiami Sep 2020 #2
Giuliani is a permanent stain on Human intelligence. Guilded Lilly Sep 2020 #3
Rudy has a Mega Money Problem Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #4
Useful idiot is a great description of Rudy Gothmog Sep 2020 #5
Rudy, you know what working with a Russian agent makes you? RockRaven Sep 2020 #6
Sort of like Putin "very very strongly denied" election meddling... jcgoldie Sep 2020 #7
Rudi, a joke as usual. Who pays attention to this POS anyways? SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #8
LOL... too rich MissMillie Sep 2020 #9
I will gladly donate the harmonica crickets Sep 2020 #10

bullimiami

(13,090 posts)
2. Well Rudy, you didnt announce that you were a Russian agent and were committing treason.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 12:29 PM
Sep 2020

But most of us knew anyway.



Treason

"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, OR in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open Court.



No question Russia is our enemy.
No question Rudy is adhering to, and giving aid to, Russias interests to the detriment of our own.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Rudy has a Mega Money Problem
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 12:30 PM
Sep 2020

with all of his Ex's as per the gossip columns. So Rudy the Grifter just kicks it up a notch. Got to keep the Ladies in Bling. So screw the USA,Hey,Rudy was a mob hustler as a kid,he learned well.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
6. Rudy, you know what working with a Russian agent makes you?
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 12:32 PM
Sep 2020

A Russian agent.

Not a dupe. Not a patsy. Not a useful idiot. A. Russian. Agent.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
7. Sort of like Putin "very very strongly denied" election meddling...
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 12:34 PM
Sep 2020

I mean who knew you couldn't just trust these Russians?

MissMillie

(38,556 posts)
9. LOL... too rich
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 01:23 PM
Sep 2020

"Bond. James Bond. I'm here to spy on you."



Would have made for some really short movies.

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