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Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
2. If you have to lock yourself away from your spouse to express an opinion, you're in an abusive
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 01:31 PM
Sep 2020

relationship.

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
6. I have sympathy here -- but have to agree.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:29 PM
Sep 2020

Relationships are complex things. Families are complex things. And abuse has become an umbrella term. Going along to get along -- is a tried and true methodology that's been passed down for millennia. But, yeah -- respect and understanding are a two way street. And there's no such thing as a one person partnership.

Ladies -- the person you're living with is a tyrant and a bully. You make the decisions that you need to make ... But disabuse yourself of the notion that you have a partner or a partnership.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
7. I'm not without sympathy either. But abuse comes in several forms, to include mental and emotional.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:56 PM
Sep 2020

Not just physical.

Go along to get along isn't exactly a positive sentiment.

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
8. 100%
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:20 PM
Sep 2020

going along to get along is NOT a recipe for healthy living -- or relationships. (and that was not my implication. or at least I hope not.)

And, yeah -- I think these women are in unhealthy relationships. If the term "abuse" fits -- I'm fine with that. (but you'd probably find that most of the women in question wouldn't be. and therein lies a lot of the problem.)

onetexan

(13,024 posts)
16. Agree re: the going along to get along bit. Such situations are all too common. Culture & religion
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 05:53 PM
Sep 2020

also has alot to do with it. During my college years my roommate told me her mom & dad bickered all day, but even in their golden years they would never leave each other. Why? The double whammy of being Asian AND Catholic bound them to each other, not to mention the shame of divorce being frowned upon by their insular community. Lends new meaning to till death do us part.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
14. Maybe it's a first step toward embracing herself as her own person.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 05:15 PM
Sep 2020

I hope so.

Maybe she'll enjoy her own personal agency. Most likely she doesn't see it as abuse.



onetexan

(13,024 posts)
15. I saw it for a good part of my life in my parents. My dad, a good man, made most decisions while
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 05:45 PM
Sep 2020

mom was expected to be the dutiful wife who rarely questioned him. The good thing is he was quite liberal and never told her how to vote. Much as i loved my parents, now deceased, i recall telling myself i'd never be in that situation having a man, or anyone for that matter, dictate how i should live my life. It is hard for me to fathom anyone should.

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
3. I saw that with Obama in 08 and 12...the 'master of the house announced'
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 01:33 PM
Sep 2020

that he and his wife would vote for McCain/Romney...but often the wife behind him would shake her head or indicate she wouldn't...and I had women tell me straight out they would vote for Obama but not in front of their husbands.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
4. That is what I have been thinking and saying.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 01:38 PM
Sep 2020

I will go on the record here, and saying that I have no expertise, that Biden will get close to 60% of the final vote count nationwide and trump will get around 35%. Not to be over confident, I am not. I believe that we might still lose this election if we don't keep fighting because it will be stolen by any and all means trump/putin can use. They are already using those plays. It is very hard to stop, block, correct, fix most of those efforts. But, the light is coming.

crickets

(25,952 posts)
5. Good news.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:05 PM
Sep 2020

Here's hoping there is more quiet, under-the-radar change of heart going on elsewhere as well.

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Mr.Bill

(24,253 posts)
11. It's hard to tell how many there are like this,
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 04:16 PM
Sep 2020

but I can guarantee you no one who voted for Hillary Clinton is switching to Trump this time.

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