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I have a known ex-friend that works in that field that collects donations for the GOP and she is trying to suggest that Covid stats should be reported as the number of people who survived a Covid positive result, rather than the number that died from it. So in her eyes, a Republican perspective, the casualties are acceptable.
And, oh by the way, she lives in New York City and is la-dee-dah, life is going back to normal. This has been her life as long as I've known her. Enjoying the best of Democratic policies, and a big liberal city, at the same time that she embraces all the evil from the Republican party.
ProfessorGAC
(65,000 posts)It's not a graph, but it's an interactive table.
Once you're done loading it, touch the heading for deaths per million, and it will sort based on that column.
You should see 9 countries with higher deaths per million. The other 140 entries are lower.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
BTW: your friend is being silly. If we reported the flu by recoveries, we'd barely care about it, since around 2,449 out of 2,450 people survive the flu.
If we compared COVID to that it would look exactly as bad as looking at deaths.
Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)Silly is not strong enough. Met them all in a private college. They do know how to enjoy the best of life, and part of that requires them to overlook the negative and concentrate on the positive. It's a way of life for them.
I've been among them for so long, that I can sense the very moment the conversation pivots to try to divert your attention from the things that are alarming you, to a subject that allows them to control the discussion.
A bunch of tiara wearing princesses, but I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of their gossip. Damn, I would be better off being eaten by sharks.
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)PSPS
(13,593 posts)It's easy but misleading to focus only on the "death rate." And looking at the "number of people who survived a positive result" is better but going a step too far. That's because being able to "survive" a positive result implies that simply avoiding death means you're all better, and that has turned out to not be the case at all. There is increasing evidence that the virus remains and inflicts more damage to the body as time goes on. "Survivors" have been found to have persistent systemic inflammation of their vascular system and organs, including the brain. Myocarditis, for example, is a common chronic condition found in "survivors." And children exhibit these too. There is evidence of mental imparment and loss of precise motor control that may last a lifetime.
What it boils down to is that the only proper metric to use is the rate of positivity. If you're positive, whether you get sick or not and regardless of the symptoms you have (even if you're asymptomatic,) you're still facing a lifetime of negative effects on your health and well being.
The only way to decrease the positivity rate is to reduce the spread rate, referred to as R0. Only when that value is well under 1 will the spread be reduced and the only way to achieve that is to do the very thing trump insists that we not do but every qualified medical expert insists that we have to do: Stay home, wear a mask in public, no large or close gatherings, no dine-in restaurants/bars/etc. And this must be continued until either the R0 remains well under 1 for at least 30 consecutive days or we have a safe and effective vaccine. If we had done this for longer than we did, perhaps an additional few weeks or months, we'd be in good shape. But, because we didn't and the federal government is bent upon pursuing the opposite, we'll have to either do it all over again the right way or keep counting deaths until we have a safe and effective vaccine, if ever.
GeorgeGist
(25,319 posts)don't die of heart disease.
All is good.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Just click a column to sort on it
Google for the EU CDC site, too. Thats a good site for info
Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)Facebook flagged her post as partially false. So, it knocked the air out of her sails.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)I look at that site every day.
I've been saying for some time now that deaths per million is probably the most useful metric, especially if you look at countries that might be similar in any way.
We are the third largest country by population, so understandably we are going to have more deaths than much smaller countries. Meanwhile, keep an eye on India. Their reported cases and deaths are skyrocketing.
My local newspaper, the Santa Fe New Mexican, every day runs a piece called Virus Tracker. It lists total cases in New Mexico, how many virus-related deaths, how many currently hospitalized, how many designated recovered, and tests done. It also lists number of positive cases by country.And there's a bar chart showing daily reported cases in the state.
I have been wondering for a long time just how people are designated recovered if all they ever had was a positive test and had few or no symptoms. I guess that over the long run, meaning many months and eventually years, you just look at number of positive tests, subtract those who died from Covid-19 or complications from it, and assume the others all recovered, even if they never had another test for it.
Meanwhile, I agree that deaths per million of population is more helpful than many of the statistics.
Again, the site is https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
What I like is that you can sort each column to find what might most interest you.