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Bloomberg to spend up to $100 million to beat Trump in Florida (Original Post) soothsayer Sep 2020 OP
Hoping... SheltieLover Sep 2020 #1
He's spent millions in the past supporting Dem candidates left-of-center2012 Sep 2020 #39
Exactly!! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #49
He's also spent millions supporting republicans Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #52
Exactly! bluewater Sep 2020 #54
Thanks Mike! tavernier Sep 2020 #2
The signs in Florida used to ruin my day, then SayItLoud Sep 2020 #44
Good point. tavernier Sep 2020 #47
Hope he comes through. smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #3
Mike Bloomberg to spend AT LEAST $100 million in Florida to benefit Joe Biden spanone Sep 2020 #4
Fantastic! I hope the Bloomberg naysayers are satisfied now. honest.abe Sep 2020 #5
Are you kidding me, the naysayers are still expressing skepticism that he will follow through, while still_one Sep 2020 #15
Didn't he initially say he was going to spend $1 billion to defeat Trump? PTWB Sep 2020 #40
And don't forget Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #50
I am glad he isn't our nominee. Gore1FL Sep 2020 #45
I dont think he is trying to influence policy at all. honest.abe Sep 2020 #61
Same here!! Love him or hate him he's actively working to save the country Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #51
The WP article says "Bloomberg plans to spend at least $100 million in Florida".. honest.abe Sep 2020 #6
That's even better! soothsayer Sep 2020 #7
This is huge because if we win Florida, we win. honest.abe Sep 2020 #10
Exactly. Trump has no electoral path to victory if he can't take Florida. This is great news! Native Sep 2020 #13
Political is known to downplay anything positive coming from a Democrat. A subtle... George II Sep 2020 #20
This Politico article says "Bloomberg to spend up to $100 million to beat Trump in Florida" Poiuyt Sep 2020 #37
Here's hoping that Tom Steyer follows suit in other states. GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #8
Tom Steyer does not have anything close to what Bloomberg has although he is wealthy still JI7 Sep 2020 #24
He's worth over a billion dollars. GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #27
Arizona would be a good start for Steyer. yellowdogintexas Sep 2020 #33
Once the election is over the campaign cash spigot will stop supporting the covid economy bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #9
Excellent strategy calguy Sep 2020 #11
need the Social Security and Medicare ads running now in Florida and 5 or 6 other redstates beachbumbob Sep 2020 #12
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Sep 2020 #23
Ads should already be airing esp. in FL. People don't appalachiablue Sep 2020 #25
I have a recurring nightmare of our SocSec benefits going down yellowdogintexas Sep 2020 #35
if FICA taxes aren't paid, there is NO social security or medicare, PERIOD starting in 2023 beachbumbob Sep 2020 #38
Maybe fund some of the fines the ex felons need to pay to vote? Walleye Sep 2020 #14
We were having the same thought at the same time. JudyM Sep 2020 #18
It's complicated though, right? They don't know what they owe soothsayer Sep 2020 #19
That's what I've read, deliberate obfuscation, obstruction. appalachiablue Sep 2020 #28
A major issue that's been known for months, appalachiablue Sep 2020 #26
Didn't Kobe Bryant announce he would pay those fines yellowdogintexas Sep 2020 #36
I think it was LaBron James. See the link below to give to a project that is also laying fines Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #48
Make that 3.2 million paid out, not 32K Salviati Sep 2020 #55
Been waiting for this to happen. He can start by paying off the disenfranchised ex-felon fees. JudyM Sep 2020 #16
Need to hit on the Latino vote in So Fla and the PR vote around Orlando.. ............. nt mitch96 Sep 2020 #17
K&R n/t Kitchari Sep 2020 #21
rump will have a tantrum about this JustGene Sep 2020 #22
He should do it soon. Ballots are sent out in less than a week. n/t whopis01 Sep 2020 #29
While the Trump campaign has proven that having tons of money doesn't mean it will be well spent DFW Sep 2020 #30
I welcome any help we can get from him and any other wealthy donors. WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2020 #42
Hey Sheldon Adelson, will you meet that bet and raise? no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 #31
Trolling Trump by actually spending that amount. greymattermom Sep 2020 #32
Wonderful & greatly appreciated! It must be done A.S.A.P. though... Illumination Sep 2020 #34
Why do some here still attack Bloomberg? left-of-center2012 Sep 2020 #41
Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #43
That's disgusting! What are you doing to support the Dems? Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #46
Telling the truth about Bloomberg Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #53
Texas and its 38 electoral votes is worth investing in dlk Sep 2020 #56
Good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2020 #57
'Twould be most excellent! Blue Owl Sep 2020 #58
Bloomberg to spend "at least" $100 million and not up to $100 million Gothmog Sep 2020 #59
K&R UTUSN Sep 2020 #60
This amuses me Gothmog Sep 2020 #62

SayItLoud

(1,701 posts)
44. The signs in Florida used to ruin my day, then
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:29 AM
Sep 2020

I came to the realization that signs are 20th Century politics. Money is much better spent reaching masses rather than bike riders, dog walkers and a few cars riding by. A sign doesn't change a point of view. A sign is clutter and waste on a planet that has too much of both. Oh, and also these signs tell me where assholes live and to never visit them or buy any of their products, services or food.

tavernier

(12,368 posts)
47. Good point.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:44 AM
Sep 2020

When I walk in the morning and evening I pass them, and I always “accidentally” drop my hand held mask so that I bend over and BUTT salute the signage. Makes me feel better.

spanone

(135,781 posts)
4. Mike Bloomberg to spend AT LEAST $100 million in Florida to benefit Joe Biden
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 08:14 AM
Sep 2020

Last edited Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:32 AM - Edit history (1)

Washington Post

Former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg plans to spend at least $100 million in Florida to help elect Democrat Joe Biden, a massive late-stage infusion of cash that could reshape the presidential contest in a costly toss-up state central to President Trump’s reelection hopes.

Bloomberg made the decision to focus his final election spending on Florida last week, after news reports that Trump had considered spending as much as $100 million of his own money in the final weeks of the campaign, Bloomberg’s advisers said. Presented with several options on how to make good on an earlier promise to help elect Biden, Bloomberg decided that a narrow focus on Florida was the best use of his money.

The president’s campaign has long treated the state, which Trump now calls home, as a top priority, and his advisers remain confident in his chances given strong turnout in 2016 and 2018 that gave Republicans narrow winning margins in statewide contests.

“Voting starts on Sept. 24 in Florida so the need to inject real capital in that state quickly is an urgent need,” Bloomberg adviser Kevin Sheekey said. “Mike believes that by investing in Florida it will allow campaign resources and other Democratic resources to be used in other states, in particular the state of Pennsylvania.”


--Paywall--https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bloomberg-money-florida-biden/2020/09/12/af51bb50-f511-11ea-bc45-e5d48ab44b9f_story.html

still_one

(92,060 posts)
15. Are you kidding me, the naysayers are still expressing skepticism that he will follow through, while
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 08:38 AM
Sep 2020

there is absolutely no evidence that he won’t

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
40. Didn't he initially say he was going to spend $1 billion to defeat Trump?
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:16 AM
Sep 2020

Has he spent anywhere close to that? Did he end up admitting that wasn’t true?

I suspect that’s where the skepticism originates.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
50. And don't forget
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:49 AM
Sep 2020

That he promised to keep his staff and local offices in place though the election. Then he closed all the offices and fired all the staffers, taking away their health insurance in the middle of a pandemic.

Gore1FL

(21,095 posts)
45. I am glad he isn't our nominee.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:30 AM
Sep 2020

I'll take his money. I'll take his help.

The Democratic party doesn't need his influence.

The same can be said for the Lincoln Project. I love their ads but don;t want them making policy.



So chalk me up as a satisfied naysayer, I guess?

honest.abe

(8,610 posts)
61. I dont think he is trying to influence policy at all.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:41 PM
Sep 2020

He simply wants Trump to lose and Biden to win.

That is good enough for me.

honest.abe

(8,610 posts)
6. The WP article says "Bloomberg plans to spend at least $100 million in Florida"..
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 08:19 AM
Sep 2020

not "up to 100 million".

honest.abe

(8,610 posts)
10. This is huge because if we win Florida, we win.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 08:25 AM
Sep 2020

Also, I think the stories of Hispanics in south FL moving to Trump was probably due to massive Spanish language ads by the Trump campaign. This Bloomberg money can counter that.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. Political is known to downplay anything positive coming from a Democrat. A subtle...
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 08:48 AM
Sep 2020

...difference in words like that makes a BIG difference in the perception.

Poiuyt

(18,112 posts)
37. This Politico article says "Bloomberg to spend up to $100 million to beat Trump in Florida"
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:49 AM
Sep 2020

Billionaire Mike Bloomberg announced Sunday he would spend as much as $100 million in Florida to defeat President Donald Trump in his must-win state.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/13/bloomberg-florida-trump-biden-413122

Either way, it's significant and appreciated.

GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
8. Here's hoping that Tom Steyer follows suit in other states.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 08:20 AM
Sep 2020

And, any other billionaires who want The Asshole gone.

GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
27. He's worth over a billion dollars.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:04 AM
Sep 2020

He can still put up tens of millions of dollars without it putting much of a dent in his bottom line.

yellowdogintexas

(22,216 posts)
33. Arizona would be a good start for Steyer.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:31 AM
Sep 2020

or even down here in Texas. This race is far tighter than anyone ever believed it could be, plus we have some Congressional, judicial and State Legislative races that are leaning Democratic or were flipped last election. Not to mention Cornyn

If Texas goes blue for Biden, he is going to pull a lot of these races with him. Even if #45 squeaks out a win, the Democrats down ballot will benefit.



bucolic_frolic

(43,028 posts)
9. Once the election is over the campaign cash spigot will stop supporting the covid economy
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 08:23 AM
Sep 2020

and imagine what covid's done to the underground economy. Yes they keep telling us everything is roaring, but a large part of that is build-out of the covid workplace - home gig computing and cars to avoid public transit. I hear used cars in particular are in short supply and prices are way up.

calguy

(5,290 posts)
11. Excellent strategy
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 08:28 AM
Sep 2020

If we win Florida, from the models I've seen, there is virtually no viable path for trump. Trump said he's thinking about putting up his own money, he won't.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
12. need the Social Security and Medicare ads running now in Florida and 5 or 6 other redstates
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 08:33 AM
Sep 2020

no excuse not to have them go up NOW

too many people do not understand FICA/payroll taxes and funding of SS and medicare and when you permanent stop collecting the taxes, the programs will die in less than 2 years as this the backdoor way to end a program. GOP has done similar things all across america

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
25. Ads should already be airing esp. in FL. People don't
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:00 AM
Sep 2020

understand the role of payroll taxes/Fica in funding SS and Medicare, correct.

yellowdogintexas

(22,216 posts)
35. I have a recurring nightmare of our SocSec benefits going down
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:34 AM
Sep 2020

We are well past contributing to the fund except for the occasional side gig (like my current work with the Census) but the fund needs that infusion of $$ from current workers to continue to pay us and there will be nothing left for the future retirees.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
38. if FICA taxes aren't paid, there is NO social security or medicare, PERIOD starting in 2023
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:53 AM
Sep 2020

and why trump told his crowd yesterday the military will vote for him as they won;t want to "repay" the FICA taxes Jan 1, 2021. HIs intent is to kill SS/Medicare. A wetdream of hardcore right since FDR days

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
19. It's complicated though, right? They don't know what they owe
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 08:45 AM
Sep 2020

And no one will tell them, I’ve read

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
26. A major issue that's been known for months,
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:04 AM
Sep 2020

esp. the need for major financial resources to pay off the debts, poll tax.

Better get moving on this, there's also uncertainty about the amount of debt. All to obfuscate, obstruct.

Thekaspervote

(32,691 posts)
48. I think it was LaBron James. See the link below to give to a project that is also laying fines
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:48 AM
Sep 2020

They have currently already paid over 32k in fines

https://floridarrc.com/education/

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
55. Make that 3.2 million paid out, not 32K
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:02 AM
Sep 2020

They've raised 3.5 million out of their 10 million goal, including a 100K donation from the Miami Dolphins.

Add your donation to the total here:

I kicked in a bit yesterday, I'm no Bloomberg, but every bit helps...

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/florida-rights-restoration-coalition--frrc--1?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amount=&commit=Contribute

DFW

(54,269 posts)
30. While the Trump campaign has proven that having tons of money doesn't mean it will be well spent
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:13 AM
Sep 2020

I suspect that Bloomberg will keep an eye on his money making sure that it IS well spent. Not only on campaign aides flying first class, staying at the Four Seasons and eating at 5 star restaurants on his nickel. The Republicans can't figure out why they're behind after spending a billion dollars so far, letting staffers act as if they were the billionaires.

$100 million still won't guarantee that Florida goes for us, especially if Bloomberg is unwilling to engage in the bribery and voter fraud that Republicans consider SOP. However, if it is wisely spent, generating ads in English and Spanish that will register with targeted swing communities, it could well make the difference. Democrats should feel a lot better about Bloomberg contributing $100 million to a campaign than Republicans should feel about Sheldon Adelson contributing $100 million to some campaign, because more of Bloomberg's money will go for the cause to which he donated it--a LOT more. The people of Florida will certainly be better off if it works. The old saying is certainly true: if you want to live like a Republican, vote for a Democrat.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,055 posts)
42. I welcome any help we can get from him and any other wealthy donors.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:19 AM
Sep 2020

I just hope they spend it right. We all know that Trump is a horrible person...ads aren't necessary to tell us that. I've been saying for a while that advertising is one thing...getting people to the polls is another. These guys, including Steyer, Soros, and whoever else can write big checks, also need to sponsor some sort of transportation to get people to the polls. Rethugs have been closing down polling places to make it more difficult for people to access them, so let's drive them across town if necessary. Run ads encouraging people to check their voter registration so there's no surprise on election day. Demanding a new form of ID? Sponsor a fund that will pay the fees. People standing in line for hours? Here's some folding chairs and water. Trump will have goons at the polls to intimidate people. I'm sure security can be hired on our side to counter them.

We already know Trump will stop at nothing to stay in power. He's ignorant as dirt, but he's not stupid. He knows he's subject to arrest as soon as Biden takes the oath. Sorry, but this not the time to "go high". We're gonna have to be willing to get dirty on this one, because there won't be another if he cheats his way back in.

greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
32. Trolling Trump by actually spending that amount.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:24 AM
Sep 2020

Bloomberg can spend whatever he wants, maybe 100 million in every swing state. I love it that he named the amount.

Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #41)

dlk

(11,509 posts)
56. Texas and its 38 electoral votes is worth investing in
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:03 AM
Sep 2020

Texas is a purple state and with more investment could be turned blue. People are moving there in droves; over half a million per year, many from California. Beto has been doing excellent work registering voters and I think it’s a mistake to write off those 38 electoral votes. Granted, the oil and gas industry is deeply entrenched there, however, in Houston for example, there are more workers there in tech and the arts than O&G. I think the general perspective on Texas could use updating.

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